AMD Piledriver rumours ... and expert conjecture

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We have had several requests for a sticky on AMD's yet to be released Piledriver architecture ... so here it is.

I want to make a few things clear though.

Post a question relevant to the topic, or information about the topic, or it will be deleted.

Post any negative personal comments about another user ... and they will be deleted.

Post flame baiting comments about the blue, red and green team and they will be deleted.

Enjoy ...
 
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Remember biggest "Bulldozer performance liar" John Fruehe, AMD server "guy"? Was finally fired from sinking ship AMD. This is great news, because he was a shame of that company. AMD is funny company now, desktop Trinity has serious design bug, Vishera was posponed to December. Radeons nobody buys ...

PS. ES sample of AMD FX 2 CPU (Vishera) is going to me, will test it soon a publish, stay tuned!
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I don't understand why this is so true.
 
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Agreed, I am pretty skeptic with APU capabilities for mid and higher end workstation in 3d users all combined. It makes me scared actually....
 
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"Fired" might not be the case, but he has moved on to NextIO, according to his personal twitter account (JF_AMD doesn't exist in Twitter anymore).

https://twitter.com/JohnFruehe

John used to be a really nice fellow at AMDZone. Back in the days when Techreport published an article on AMD AHCI drivers' issues, I sent John a PM and said AMD's AHCI woes were causing quite a bit of bad PR among enthusiasts in several forums. He didn't promise me anything, but said he would look at it and notify the people in charge. Then, two or three months later, I think, AMD came up with a dedicated section and installer for AHCI drivers on their website; and the feedback had improved substantially. Well, I am not sure if it all happened because of John and that PM, but I am pretty sure he paid attention to the issue and made the right guys become aware of it too.
 
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just head over to the guru3d forums here : http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=367183

they are discussing the latest released Catalyst 12.8 WHQL drivers from AMD. 80% of the users are reporting some error or the other. And some are switching over to Nvidia because AMD cant provide working proper drivers after 8 months.
Happens everytime AMD releqses a new driver.
 
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Some facts: AMD Trinity has serious design bug in current revision, error will not affect only lower-performance models with low frequencies (laptops). Desktop FM2 version in A1 revision are buggy as hell. FX2 based on Piledriver core is delayed to december/january 2013. Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition is still only paper-launched. New Radeons HD 7950/7990 are delayed again. Look at stocks, lowest price now for the last several years.
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How does he know that the Piledriver core is delayed to december/january?


Is this a AMD whistleblower or just a troll?
 
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Depends on what you have now, since even if it is a "full 15% improvement" in every app, that 15% won't be that noticeable to recommend a change from the 8150 to the 83xx flagship. Besides, the 8150 will fall more and more in price before the launch, so I'd say it won't be an easy chip to sell afterwards.

Cheers!
 
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where was that quote from? The piledriver FX should be out before the end of the year, there really isn't a point in releasing it if its going to be delayed so much. FM2 seems to be fine for all the A8-5500s and A10-5700s. I would assume the delay to trinity is just to clear Llano stocks and give OEMs a head start.
 
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Naw the piledriver is already done.... they are just beta-testing it to the last minute so it will suck less than it is supposed to compared to the intel products ;p
 
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AMD Athlon II X4 750K

Could make for a cheap quad core overclocker. No GPU to worry about adding heat to the die.

Will new FM2 boards be cheaper than AM3+ boards though? Doubt it.

http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-Athlon%20II%20X4%20740.html
http://www.cpu-world.com/CPUs/Bulldozer/AMD-FX-Series%20FX-4300.html
 
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Thanks man, I'll duck with my 955 for a while and see what happens
 
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I can tell you that there is something up with the 7900 series and flash. My HD5870 never had an issue playing YouTube at full screen but with my HD7970 when I exiut sometimes the screen will go crazy then the system gets a BSoD. Everything else is the same apart from the GPU at stock clocks and when I look at the event log, its a 116BSoD due to the ATI driver, basically the driver stopped responding and crashed.

That was with 12.7 betas haven't messed with the 12.8s yet. It may also just be Flash as it also caused a 101 BSoD (clock interrupt) the other day.

But I can game all day, watch .avi/mkv vides or anything else with no issue (Diablo II, TF2 or MP3).

Still I am truly worried about AMD. Their stock is low, they have a low expectation rating from market experts and have missed multiple dates which hurt them. Right now, short of integrated vieo, Intel is not even worried.
 
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^ Hmm, I haven't had any problems with my HD7970, but I don't update the driver that often, certainly not with betas. My experience is that NV driver updates are more stable however, and don't break older or legacy games as much. For example, playing Dragon Age Origins, I notice that the onscreen blur effects (such as a sword sweep or arrow tracks) stay onscreen far longer than they did with either my NV 8600GTX card or its replacement HD5770 using older drivers. In fact, they stay onscreen long enough to interfere with gameplay as they tend to obscure what the enemies are up to.
 
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I had a similar issue on the 12.6 drivers. They went away when I started using the 12.7 beta's. If I had flash in fullscreen on one monitor, and had a game fullscreen on another, when I went to tab (alt+tab) out of the game the driver would crash, then recover. Haven't had it happen since 12.7.
I agree about AMD though. While Trinity and Piledriver are both steps in the right direction, having them delayed like this is not good. If they come out swinging with Trinity, and it sells well, then I think they will be okay, for now. They need to continue to improve with Steamroller/Kaveri to make a comeback. But, hey, that's what they are paying all those engineers to do, right? That's their job, how hard can it be?

On a side note, Is anyone else VERY impressed by the 7k Radeons? Quite a feat to make up that much performance on Nvidia in just one generation, probably with a smaller budget too.
 
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i know right!

I know Amd made mistakes and all but i don't want intel to only rule the land.

http://www.google.com/finance?client=ob&q=NYSE:AMD

this is real bad, i actually hope someone does buy Amd because they don't know how to run a business.
 
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