Title is wrong... Oh well.
[citation][nom]DroKing[/nom]Im sick of you dipmorons who keep acting like Bulldozer was a major failure when it wasnt! Just because Sandy Bridge is 5 percent faster doesnt mean AMD is half as fast bc that would be 50 percent plus in performance by Sb but thats not the case! GET OVER IT. INTEL will always suck. AMD is #1.[/citation]
I'm an AMDer, in general... even selling some AMD systems last year. But when Bulldozer came out... I've gone intel... I've waited, and waited.. and was disappointed. First of all, Sandy Bridge is about 5~50% faster than anything AMD has. Ivy Bridge is about 10% faster than Sandy Bridge.
AMD requires almost twice the power over intel... more heat. By all means, Lliano is great in its class - but is becoming over-priced. AMD is NOT #1. They haven't since Core2 hit the market... and intel screwed AMD with illegal business practices, which did hurt AMD's R&D abilities.
AMD is not competing well against intel, much less themselves. When their "8 core" CPU has trouble surpassing their own 4-6core CPUs from a year ago... its a PROBLEM. AMD did the most retarded thing, they made their own version of the Pentium 4/netburst... and seeing so many people LEAVE AMD shows the screw up. We will, someday find out WHO came up with the crappy design.
The FX chips are marketed as 4/6/8 cores... but their design is Hyper-Threaded (netburst) so they are really nothing more than 2/3/4 core CPUS. They should be sold as such. The FX8150 should be a $150, at the most... as its still (STILL) slower than the i5-2400k which sells at about $140~150. The fx8000 series should be priced well below $200... not $260.
Someone said that the older X6 AMD960T was $200 cheaper than intel... ? HUH>
I can walk into a store in Dallas and pick up the i5-2500k and motherboard for $240. the 960T with a typical board is $200~220. Also the 960T is the first X6 from AMD pretty much... the i5-2400 will bitch slap it anyday... and still run much much cooler.