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Of course, this does mean that if they can double the SPs and other specs for the high-end cards, then it'd be nice to see a doubling of performance to the newest generation and I would hope that this would continue indefinitely. Although that would force us to keep buying new cards more often, I'd gladly pay to get that much closer to ultra-realistic games.
My guess is that currently 40% of all Cypress wafers being run are being binned entirely as Cypress LE in order to meet demand. This is in addition to those wafers being binned out normally. Cypress probably bins out far more Cypress Pro parts than Cypress LE parts, while demand is mostly for Cypress LE. If Barts XT is, as stated, it will be relatively low yield. In fact, the number of Barts XT GPUs yielded per wafer will probably be less than the number of Cypress Pro GPUs yielded per wafer in spite of Barts yielding up to 40% more GPUs total than Cypress.
With the introduction of Barts, AMD will want to halt all Cypress production done purely to meet Cypress LE demand. But low yields of Barts XT will mean lots of Cypress Pro GPUs will need to be produced to supplement demand for Barts XT. And there will be some residual Cypress LE GPUs salvaged from this producion.
Barts XT should be intermediate in performance between Cypress Pro and Cypress XT, and will probably be introduced at $249. Barts Pro will probably be introduced at $179. Cypress Pro will drop to $219, and the Cypress LE GPUs that are true salvage from Cypress Pro production will go head to head with GF104 768. After introduction, Barts Pro will float above the price of Cypress LE just close enough to keep Cypress LE demand in check. Cypress XT will probably drop to $329.
Turks XT should be intermediate in performance between Juniper Pro and Juniper XT. Turks XT will be the new RV740, and then some. In DX9/10 it will range from RV740 to Juniper Pro+ level performance, and in DX11 it will be closer to Juniper XT level performance than Juniper Pro level performance. It will, like RV740, be introduced at $99, with Turks Pro being priced at $79. Best of all, Turks XT will be under the 75 watts TDP power limit of the PCIe slot. While Turks XT will, in general, not perform quite as well as Juniper XT, ATI will EOL Juniper after Turks is introduced.
There will be a significant price gap between the under $100 GTS 450/Turks XT and the GTX 460 768/Radeon HD 5830 but since this gap will be duplicated in both the AMD and nVidia lines, it won't really mater. If nVidia introduces a further cut down GF104 to fill this void, AMD can respond in kind. Even if nVidia doesn't introduce a SKU to fill this void, AMD will eventually fill it with a 28nm GPU series that is 75% of Barts.
With the introduction of Barts, AMD will want to halt all Cypress production done purely to meet Cypress LE demand. But low yields of Barts XT will mean lots of Cypress Pro GPUs will need to be produced to supplement demand for Barts XT. And there will be some residual Cypress LE GPUs salvaged from this producion.
Barts XT should be intermediate in performance between Cypress Pro and Cypress XT, and will probably be introduced at $249. Barts Pro will probably be introduced at $179. Cypress Pro will drop to $219, and the Cypress LE GPUs that are true salvage from Cypress Pro production will go head to head with GF104 768. After introduction, Barts Pro will float above the price of Cypress LE just close enough to keep Cypress LE demand in check. Cypress XT will probably drop to $329.
Turks XT should be intermediate in performance between Juniper Pro and Juniper XT. Turks XT will be the new RV740, and then some. In DX9/10 it will range from RV740 to Juniper Pro+ level performance, and in DX11 it will be closer to Juniper XT level performance than Juniper Pro level performance. It will, like RV740, be introduced at $99, with Turks Pro being priced at $79. Best of all, Turks XT will be under the 75 watts TDP power limit of the PCIe slot. While Turks XT will, in general, not perform quite as well as Juniper XT, ATI will EOL Juniper after Turks is introduced.
There will be a significant price gap between the under $100 GTS 450/Turks XT and the GTX 460 768/Radeon HD 5830 but since this gap will be duplicated in both the AMD and nVidia lines, it won't really mater. If nVidia introduces a further cut down GF104 to fill this void, AMD can respond in kind. Even if nVidia doesn't introduce a SKU to fill this void, AMD will eventually fill it with a 28nm GPU series that is 75% of Barts.
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[citation][nom]howiejcee[/nom]Of course, this does mean that if they can double the SPs and other specs for the high-end cards, then it'd be nice to see a doubling of performance to the newest generation and I would hope that this would continue indefinitely. Although that would force us to keep buying new cards more often, I'd gladly pay to get that much closer to ultra-realistic games.[/citation]
Are you kidding me man. This is the company that bought out 3DFX years ago and was a monopoly. AMD isn't a monopoly. They are just bringing out a more quality product and making sure they are releavant in the video market. And thus I am sure NVIDIA will up the ante with their next release. It's called GOOD COMPETITION, my friend. not a monopoly!!!
Are you kidding me man. This is the company that bought out 3DFX years ago and was a monopoly. AMD isn't a monopoly. They are just bringing out a more quality product and making sure they are releavant in the video market. And thus I am sure NVIDIA will up the ante with their next release. It's called GOOD COMPETITION, my friend. not a monopoly!!!
[citation][nom]ern88[/nom]Are you kidding me man. This is the company that bought out 3DFX years ago and was a monopoly. AMD isn't a monopoly.[/citation]
Eh, I think you may have misread/misinterpreted my post. I never mentioned anything about AMD being a monopoly... I stated that I would be willing to pay for new vid cards at the current ~1.5yr generation life cycle for exponential increases in performance. Now, whether or not I can put up w/ ATI's lousy drivers is another issue...
Eh, I think you may have misread/misinterpreted my post. I never mentioned anything about AMD being a monopoly... I stated that I would be willing to pay for new vid cards at the current ~1.5yr generation life cycle for exponential increases in performance. Now, whether or not I can put up w/ ATI's lousy drivers is another issue...
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Jesus christ!
Some people on this thread are getting up on pretty high horses using rhetorical insults when claiming that of course 6850 will replace 5850 and so on. The case is that we do not know if the naming convention will be followed in this release, or not. Previous rumours have it the they will change the naming convention. And we don't even have official specs for the cards yet, so stop insulting people based on guess-work.
Some people on this thread are getting up on pretty high horses using rhetorical insults when claiming that of course 6850 will replace 5850 and so on. The case is that we do not know if the naming convention will be followed in this release, or not. Previous rumours have it the they will change the naming convention. And we don't even have official specs for the cards yet, so stop insulting people based on guess-work.
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[citation][nom]f-gomes[/nom]What you missed is that 6770 is to replace 5770 - why should you be comparing it to the 5870???.If the new mainstream model is as fast the previous flagship, THAT'S an impressive leap, alright.Can't wait for the specs on the 6870...[/citation]
OK, what he is saying is. 2 5770's Crossfired beat/ be on par with a 5870. The ad here on toms says Twice the horse power? If it was really twice the horse power it would be on par with the 5870 or a little better. Comprehend it now?
OK, what he is saying is. 2 5770's Crossfired beat/ be on par with a 5870. The ad here on toms says Twice the horse power? If it was really twice the horse power it would be on par with the 5870 or a little better. Comprehend it now?
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An interesting update on Guru3D today:
http://guru3d.com/news/radeon-hd-6800-series/
Another rumor pointing to Barts XT and Barts PRO debuting as the HD6800 series instead of the HD6700. According to the the report the Caymen series would then take the HD6900 designation, and wouldn't be a larger higher-end GPU like previously thought. Instead it would simply be a pairing of two Barts GPU's on a single PCB. The specs also differ quite a bit from the previously "leaked" slide.
Keep in mind, it's a rumor from an unconfirmed source, but it definitely seems plausible.
http://guru3d.com/news/radeon-hd-6800-series/
Another rumor pointing to Barts XT and Barts PRO debuting as the HD6800 series instead of the HD6700. According to the the report the Caymen series would then take the HD6900 designation, and wouldn't be a larger higher-end GPU like previously thought. Instead it would simply be a pairing of two Barts GPU's on a single PCB. The specs also differ quite a bit from the previously "leaked" slide.
Keep in mind, it's a rumor from an unconfirmed source, but it definitely seems plausible.
The 6750 seems very interesting from power/performance perspective.
Too bad they all will be made at 40nm, not smaller.
Too bad they all will be made at 40nm, not smaller.
[citation][nom]dragonsqrrl[/nom]An interesting update on Guru3D today:http://guru3d.com/news/radeon-hd-6800-series/Another rumor pointing to Barts XT and Barts PRO debuting as the HD6800 series instead of the HD6700. According to the the report the Caymen series would then take the HD6900 designation, and wouldn't be a larger higher-end GPU like previously thought. Instead it would simply be a pairing of two Barts GPU's on a single PCB. The specs also differ quite a bit from the previously "leaked" slide. Keep in mind, it's a rumor from an unconfirmed source, but it definitely seems plausible.[/citation]
read guru3d all post
accourding to guru 3d amd will change there naming scheme
read guru3d all post
accourding to guru 3d amd will change there naming scheme
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What's the latest on the expected release date for 6xxx series? I want to buy a 5870 for trifire and should get paid tomorrow - wondering whether it'll be worth holding off for a week or two in case prices plummet (although I doubt they'd drop that fast).
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[citation][nom]Spanky Deluxe[/nom]What's the latest on the expected release date for 6xxx series? I want to buy a 5870 for trifire and should get paid tomorrow - wondering whether it'll be worth holding off for a week or two in case prices plummet (although I doubt they'd drop that fast).[/citation]
http://guru3d.com/news/amd-radeon-hd-6800-volume-shipments-expected-in-november/
"Looks like actual volume availbiliuty of AMD's upcoming Radeon 6000 series prodyct will be available later then the launch date. DigiTimes was told that mass shipments of AMD's new graphics cards are slated for November"
This was already well established, so it's just an update.
http://guru3d.com/news/amd-radeon-hd-6800-volume-shipments-expected-in-november/
"Looks like actual volume availbiliuty of AMD's upcoming Radeon 6000 series prodyct will be available later then the launch date. DigiTimes was told that mass shipments of AMD's new graphics cards are slated for November"
This was already well established, so it's just an update.
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