AMD roadmap with 65nm and 4x4

[jamesgoddard]

Taken from http://tweakers.net/nieuws/44504/AMD...cket-1207.html

Model Klok Cache Procéde TDP Socket Intro
FX-74 3,0GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W 1207 before Christmas
FX-72 2,8GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W 1207 before Christmas
FX-70 2,6GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W 1207 before Christmas
X2 6000+ 3,0GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W AM2 November
X2 5600+ 2,8GHz 2x1MB 90nm 98W AM2 November
X2 5400+ 2,8GHz 2x512KB 90nm 98W AM2 November
X2 5000+ 2,6GHz 2x512KB 65nm 65W AM2 December
X2 4800+ 2,4GHz 2x1MB 65nm 65W AM2 December
X2 4400+ 2,2GHz 2x1MB 65nm 65W AM2 December
X2 4000+ 2,0GHz 2x1MB 65nm 65W AM2 December
Sempron 3800+ 2,2GHz 256KB 90nm 62W AM2 Oktober
Sempron 3500+ 2,0GHz 128KB 90nm 35W AM2 Oktober

this should help a little in catching tem pesky conroes

 

[mad_fitzy]

WTF are the FX-7X series? And why are they for socket 1207?

 

[Nitro_mule]

To clear up a few things:

The FX-7X series are presumed to be the processors for the 4x4 platform, they are indeed socket F processors and are going to be sold in pairs.

'Voor Kerst' means that they are going to be available before Christmass...

 

[jamesgoddard]

4x4 systems are socket 1207

 

[jamesgoddard]

'Voor Kerst' means that they are going to be available before Christmass...

thanks

 

[qurious69ss]

I was under the impression that they were going to be using the AM2 socket for 4X4. Looks like they're not even trying to hide the fact that this 4X4 is nothing more than a 2P opteron puter.

 

[neocristi]

is there a link to a trusted site that can confirm this anouncement?

 

[shinigami304]

4x4 isnt just Co-Processors or quad cores... it is bigger future then most people think. you have many things involed... you have direct access through HT between 2 processors... now some people think that this crap compare to intel's C2D processors which will be linked. this will open the duel processor motherboards to home users for one, really to high end market like gamers. also you have new technology like the "Torrenza" platform (Article here).

the technology will allow third party hardware developer to integrate their own silicon into a spare socket on a Torrenza motherboard and combine their technology with an AMD Opteron or Athlon CPU. Conceivably, this socket could house co-processors - so-called "accelerators" - that focus on specialized applications such as physics, floating-point calculations, storage or graphics.

this will be the NEW future to EVERYONE. now for thoses at did forget AMD and ATI did merge... can you say specialized applications like GRAPHICS, maybe even a graphic CPU, not to mention developers can intergrate their OWN technology. will there be CPU based DirX and OpenGL type CPU extentions? i am sure ATI will take the multi core CPU technhology and advance their GPU cards. alot of companies are seeing the bigger picture and they are liking it. Dell, IBM, Cray, and Sun just to name a few companies. also will microsoft's new operating system also be able to take advanage of this... microsoft was included in the private 4x4 conference. remember quantium computers was the only ones able to high end physics. intel can NOT copy this even with intel / amd trade agreement for extentions. this is a plateform and AMDs alone. intel will try to compete in this but will they develop something in time. but this is just speculation from known facts from past articles to wonder what is AMD/ATI is really upto. ATI did mention laptop graphics restriction due to screen savers, power savers, and other display actions that cant be controlled by GPU but form the CPU, is something like specilized CPU fix this?

i think personally AMD/ATI is on the right track. specilized CPUs intergrated with developer technology and through HT. pertty much in a centeral area... more intergration in the CPU area.

 

[jamesgoddard]

I was under the impression that they were going to be using the AM2 socket for 4X4. Looks like they're not even trying to hide the fact that this 4X4 is nothing more than a 2P opteron puter.

It's been open knowledge that the 4x4 would be socket 1207 for months now, where have you been!

 

[m25]

These are good news unless they retain FX-62 prices or worse;
1-FX series migrating to a new socket
2-AMD officially over the 3 GHz wall.

 

[YO_KID37]

Taken from http://tweakers.net/nieuws/44504/AMD...cket-1207.html

Model Klok Cache Procéde TDP Socket Intro
FX-74 3,0GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W 1207 before Christmas
FX-72 2,8GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W 1207 before Christmas
FX-70 2,6GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W 1207 before Christmas
X2 6000+ 3,0GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W AM2 November
X2 5600+ 2,8GHz 2x1MB 90nm 98W AM2 November
X2 5400+ 2,8GHz 2x512KB 90nm 98W AM2 November
X2 5000+ 2,6GHz 2x512KB 65nm 65W AM2 December
X2 4800+ 2,4GHz 2x1MB 65nm 65W AM2 December
X2 4400+ 2,2GHz 2x1MB 65nm 65W AM2 December
X2 4000+ 2,0GHz 2x1MB 65nm 65W AM2 December
Sempron 3800+ 2,2GHz 256KB 90nm 62W AM2 Oktober
Sempron 3500+ 2,0GHz 128KB 90nm 35W AM2 Oktober

this should help a little in catching tem pesky conroes

I have a feeling that FX series 4x4 AM2 Boards will be produced until begining of next year: to give the owners or potential FX buyers a change to use AMD 4x4 AM2 and They might be migrating to socket 1207 To give them a boost in every thing to fit in some stuff they are planning or have planned

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_4x4_chipset

Says that AMD 4x4 Only for AM2 but i have a feeling that it won't be like that for long, This might only be a 2-3 Month relationship to board production of AM2 and then they might tie them selfs to another socket as this german site shown

 

[jamesgoddard]

Taken from http://tweakers.net/nieuws/44504/AMD...cket-1207.html

Model Klok Cache Procéde TDP Socket Intro
FX-74 3,0GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W 1207 before Christmas
FX-72 2,8GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W 1207 before Christmas
FX-70 2,6GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W 1207 before Christmas
X2 6000+ 3,0GHz 2x1MB 90nm 125W AM2 November
X2 5600+ 2,8GHz 2x1MB 90nm 98W AM2 November
X2 5400+ 2,8GHz 2x512KB 90nm 98W AM2 November
X2 5000+ 2,6GHz 2x512KB 65nm 65W AM2 December
X2 4800+ 2,4GHz 2x1MB 65nm 65W AM2 December
X2 4400+ 2,2GHz 2x1MB 65nm 65W AM2 December
X2 4000+ 2,0GHz 2x1MB 65nm 65W AM2 December
Sempron 3800+ 2,2GHz 256KB 90nm 62W AM2 Oktober
Sempron 3500+ 2,0GHz 128KB 90nm 35W AM2 Oktober

this should help a little in catching tem pesky conroes

I have a feeling that FX series 4x4 AM2 Boards will be produced until begining of next year: to give the owners or potential FX buyers a change to use AMD 4x4 AM2 and They might be migrating to socket 1207 To give them a boost in every thing to fit in some stuff they are planning or have planned

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_4x4_chipset

Says that AMD 4x4 Only for AM2 but i have a feeling that it won't be like that for long, This might only be a 2-3 Month relationship to board production of AM2 and then they might tie them selfs to another socket as this german site shown

There will NEVER be an AM2 based 4x4 system, it's simple really as the AM2 socket can only have 1 HT link, to have a duel CPU AM2 system would require this link to talk to the other CPU, thus you would have to forgo things like hard disks, graphics cards, IO, network, keyboards, mouse etc to have the second CPU... Does not sound like a useable system to me..

LOL at the wiki page tbh - it's just sooo wrong!

 

[madmouse67]

German?... It all looks a bit Dutch to me! :?

 

[Dade_0182]

Isn't it netherlands? Either way, it's close to afrikaans which is my home language. Gotta go home now before more customers come.

 

[dasickninja]

4x4 isnt just Co-Processors or quad cores... it is bigger future then most people think. you have many things involed... you have direct access through HT between 2 processors... now some people think that this crap compare to intel's C2D processors which will be linked. this will open the duel processor motherboards to home users for one, really to high end market like gamers. also you have new technology like the "Torrenza" platform (Article here).

the technology will allow third party hardware developer to integrate their own silicon into a spare socket on a Torrenza motherboard and combine their technology with an AMD Opteron or Athlon CPU. Conceivably, this socket could house co-processors - so-called "accelerators" - that focus on specialized applications such as physics, floating-point calculations, storage or graphics.

this will be the NEW future to EVERYONE. now for thoses at did forget AMD and ATI did merge... can you say specialized applications like GRAPHICS, maybe even a graphic CPU, not to mention developers can intergrate their OWN technology. will there be CPU based DirX and OpenGL type CPU extentions? i am sure ATI will take the multi core CPU technhology and advance their GPU cards. alot of companies are seeing the bigger picture and they are liking it. Dell, IBM, Cray, and Sun just to name a few companies. also will microsoft's new operating system also be able to take advanage of this... microsoft was included in the private 4x4 conference. remember quantium computers was the only ones able to high end physics. intel can NOT copy this even with intel / amd trade agreement for extentions. this is a plateform and AMDs alone. intel will try to compete in this but will they develop something in time. but this is just speculation from known facts from past articles to wonder what is AMD/ATI is really upto. ATI did mention laptop graphics restriction due to screen savers, power savers, and other display actions that cant be controlled by GPU but form the CPU, is something like specilized CPU fix this?

i think personally AMD/ATI is on the right track. specilized CPUs intergrated with developer technology and through HT. pertty much in a centeral area... more intergration in the CPU area.

You getting payed for this?

 

[Dade_0182]

If you have the time, why not? He did put this in it's own thread as well.

 

[dasickninja]

I freakin hate Shills.

 

[TSIMonster]

I am kinda confused, so is AM2 going to be a short run? 939 seemed to stay around forever. If so, it sucks for people with AM2 right now. If this is the case, I'm selling my AM2 board and going to conroe.

 

[jamesgoddard]

I am kinda confused, so is AM2 going to be a short run? 939 seemed to stay around forever. If so, it sucks for people with AM2 right now. If this is the case, I'm selling my AM2 board and going to conroe.

AM2 will stick around for some time to come yet - don't expect AM3 until 2008 - but multi CPU, aka 4x4 will be socket 1207.

 

[JQB45]

I am going intel next simply because I hate how often AMD switches sockets on me.

Disgruntaled AMD socket 754 early adopter
-Jeff

 

[qurious69ss]

I was under the impression that they were going to be using the AM2 socket for 4X4. Looks like they're not even trying to hide the fact that this 4X4 is nothing more than a 2P opteron puter.

It's been open knowledge that the 4x4 would be socket 1207 for months now, where have you been!

Open knowledge??? I must of missed it...link please. Well it still sucks that they are advertising this as something new when in fact it is already out. People today can buy a 2p opteron motherboard, so what is different about this 4X4 jig? Different memory? Different HT? Different MC? Different PCI-e? I 'm not sure but can you buy a 2p opteron MB that supports Sli/CrsFire...hmm maybe that is what they are selling. Who knows, who cares I can't afford one anyways. :roll:

 

[theboomboomcars]

AM2 is basically the second generation S754. It was launched initially and will stay around for a while for the entry level. But whats better about AM2 than S754 is that it will accept an AM3 processor, just wont be as high speed as the AM3 so performance will be reduced some what.

 

[JQB45]

If my imagination serves me correctly

I am thinking the 2nd socket could be utilized as a 2nd CPU or as a GPU or Physics "Co-Processor"

This will not catch on IMHO unless they share with Intel...

Thanks for the socket clearafication boom boom
-Jeff

 

[jamesgoddard]

I was under the impression that they were going to be using the AM2 socket for 4X4. Looks like they're not even trying to hide the fact that this 4X4 is nothing more than a 2P opteron puter.

It's been open knowledge that the 4x4 would be socket 1207 for months now, where have you been!

Open knowledge??? I must of missed it...link please. Well it still sucks that they are advertising this as something new when in fact it is already out. People today can buy a 2p opteron motherboard, so what is different about this 4X4 jig? Different memory? Different HT? Different MC? Different PCI-e? I 'm not sure but can you buy a 2p opteron MB that supports Sli/CrsFire...hmm maybe that is what they are selling. Who knows, who cares I can't afford one anyways. :roll:

http://forumz.tomshardware.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=196893&highlight=

 

[TSIMonster]

wow... how long has intel been using LGA775 now? AMD does change Sockets too much