Discussion AMD Ryzen MegaThread! FAQ and Resources

[jdwii]

@yuka, I think, that in AMD's quest to "be as like to intel as possible", they've lost what makes them unique name wise.

Oh yeah i miss the old farming equipment names haha.

Oh Amd how much i hate the way you name your products.

 

[Nope 1151]

Next thing you know, it will be R9 X-TREME GAMING EDITION (With LED/HYPERXADHD)!!!!!!@!!!

(I just had to get that out of my system)

 

[goldstone77]

I like the new naming system. Especially, substituting I for Y!

 

[jdwii]

So i've been testing Ryzen using Process Lasso, a simple fast way to turn off SMT for games or to lock programs to one CCX. Dolphin works perfect as previously noted with one core on ryzen but using the default dual core speed up option would result in skips well using Process Lasso and locking dolphin to 1-3-5-7 makes it smooth with dual core option on.

Overall I see a small difference when setting core 1-3-5-7 in fallout 4 instead of 1-3-9-11 same goes for basically every single game but it’s not a huge difference out of all the settings in most titles turning off SMT can and does improve performance in gaming by sometimes 10-15 FPS but generally 4-7 fps. Dying light it made no difference at all.

Also in every single title I tested using cores 0-7 only was always slower or gave less fps then using all the cores with SMT off. Guessing even with the CCX penalty the extra 8MB L3 cache and having 4 more cores matters more.

 

[8350rocks]

https://videocardz.com/69755/asrock-confirms-x299-and-x399-motherboards

x399 platform confirmation.

I'm losing track with the names now.

Is that a "next gen chipset now" or just a really stupid naming convention from AMD? Also, what is the difference between X299 and X399 then? The only leaked info I could find about 399 was it could be a consumer dual socket. I don't mind that, but... Really? I don't think a dual socket for the consumer market matters that much... I'd say at least.

Anyway, weird stuff from AMD for the higher "prosumer" market.

Cheers!

x370 is AMD's 8c + APU socket.

x399 is AMD's >= 10C + Quad Channel memory

 

[imrazor]

Maybe some of you have already read those rumors, but I post here since it maybe of interest.
Rumor 1: AMD is getting great yields with Ryzen. The rumor explicitly mentions that "About 80% of Ryzen dies have all 8 cores fully functional."
Rumor 2: A very big company is buying a lot of [strike]Naples[/strike] EPYC

Hopefully, rumor 1 means we'll be able to take a Ryzen 5 and magically enable more cores. Remember unlocking the fourth core on the Athlon II X3?

 

[jdwii]

So i was thinking with Ryzen really loving higher bandwidth memory i wonder how the APU's will perform? Two products loving high bandwidth memory for gaming will they be fighting for resources?

 

[TechyInAZ]

So i was thinking with Ryzen really loving higher bandwidth memory i wonder how the APU's will perform? Two products loving high bandwidth memory for gaming will they be fighting for resources?

I doubt it. But you never know.

It will be cool though on the IGPU side, now with DDR4 so fast, it's going to seriously boost IGPUs on the memory side, not to mention the new cores the IGPUs will have.

 

[-Fran-]

I doubt it. But you never know.

It will be cool though on the IGPU side, now with DDR4 so fast, it's going to seriously boost IGPUs on the memory side, not to mention the new cores the IGPUs will have.

I also have high hopes for the APUs, but I'm also wary of the "thermal fight" between the new CPU cores and GPU ones. For desktop I think they'll be fine, but for notebooks... I think it would be a bit more punishing.

In any case, given the uplift in CPU performance, it won't be like current APUs thermal fight.

Cheers!

 

[warmon6]

Spoiler

I doubt it. But you never know.

It will be cool though on the IGPU side, now with DDR4 so fast, it's going to seriously boost IGPUs on the memory side, not to mention the new cores the IGPUs will have.

I also have high hopes for the APUs, but I'm also wary of the "thermal fight" between the new CPU cores and GPU ones. For desktop I think they'll be fine, but for notebooks... I think it would be a bit more punishing.

In any case, given the uplift in CPU performance, it won't be like current APUs thermal fight.

Cheers!

Well, if the apu's are staying quad cores and that these ryzen cores have been shown to use less power than the bulldozer based cores, I'd would think that any "thermal fight" should be minimal.

Then again, They can always do what they've done on their current desktop apu's (not sure about there mobile versions) where anytime the gpu side gets used heavily, the cpu side is instantly downclocked to something like 3GHz. (although im sure that's due to power delivery and not because of heat.)

 

[jaymc]

AMD's new AM4 motherboard software cures Ryzen's memory headaches

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3198704/computers/amds-new-am4-motherboard-software-cures-ryzens-memory-headaches.html

It's about time.. but happy day's all the same...

j

 

[TechyInAZ]

Nice!!!

 

[goldstone77]

AMD's new AM4 motherboard software cures Ryzen's memory headaches

http://www.pcworld.com/article/3198704/computers/amds-new-am4-motherboard-software-cures-ryzens-memory-headaches.html

It's about time.. but happy day's all the same...

j

I like it! I hope it's as good as it sounds!

"If you’re the kind of user that just needs (or loves!) virtualization every day, then AGESA 1.0.0.6-based firmware will be a blessing for you thanks to fresh support for PCI Express Access Control Services (ACS). ACS primarily enables support for manual assignment of PCIe graphics cards within logical containers called “IOMMU groups.” The hardware resources of an IOMMU group can then be dedicated to a virtual machine.
This capability is especially useful for users that want 3D-accelerated graphics inside a virtual machine. With ACS support, it is possible to split a 2-GPU system such that a host Linux® OS and a Windows VM both have a dedicated graphics cards. The virtual machine can access all the capabilities of the dedicated GPU, and run games inside the virtual machine at near-native performance."

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-agesa-firmware-update-motherboard,34525.html

Edit: 7:35 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laD0_DwS3tA
People reporting stable speed and timings https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6cfpiz/ive_been_testing_agesa_1006_for_a_day_with_the/

 

[Nope 1151]

Hey is this just me or can someone else confirm?
Look here under CPU support:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=879#cpusupport
Do you guys see the 1700PRO??? I see several of those I wonder what those are.

 

[8350rocks]

Hey is this just me or can someone else confirm?
Look here under CPU support:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=879#cpusupport
Do you guys see the 1700PRO??? I see several of those I wonder what those are.

Enterprise versions for companies to use. They are for workstation PCs, and business computers.

 

[Nope 1151]

Hey is this just me or can someone else confirm?
Look here under CPU support:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=879#cpusupport
Do you guys see the 1700PRO??? I see several of those I wonder what those are.

Enterprise versions for companies to use. They are for workstation PCs, and business computers.

I see.. Would they have something akin to Intel's AMT? ECC? Or are those details yet to be released?

 

[-Fran-]

Hey is this just me or can someone else confirm?
Look here under CPU support:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=879#cpusupport
Do you guys see the 1700PRO??? I see several of those I wonder what those are.

Enterprise versions for companies to use. They are for workstation PCs, and business computers.

I see.. Would they have something akin to Intel's AMT? ECC? Or are those details yet to be released?

Intel's vPro CPUs is the equivalent, I'd say.

Cheers!

 

[Nope 1151]

Hey is this just me or can someone else confirm?
Look here under CPU support:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=879#cpusupport
Do you guys see the 1700PRO??? I see several of those I wonder what those are.

Enterprise versions for companies to use. They are for workstation PCs, and business computers.

I see.. Would they have something akin to Intel's AMT? ECC? Or are those details yet to be released?

Intel's vPro CPUs is the equivalent, I'd say.

Cheers!

That makes sense, the board says it supports ECC ram under the memory support page.

 

[-Fran-]

Spoiler

Hey is this just me or can someone else confirm?
Look here under CPU support:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=879#cpusupport
Do you guys see the 1700PRO??? I see several of those I wonder what those are.

Enterprise versions for companies to use. They are for workstation PCs, and business computers.

I see.. Would they have something akin to Intel's AMT? ECC? Or are those details yet to be released?

Intel's vPro CPUs is the equivalent, I'd say.

Cheers!

That makes sense, the board says it supports ECC ram under the memory support page.

Uhm... I don't recall Intel vPro CPUs having ECC support though.

Cheers!

 

[Nope 1151]

Spoiler

Hey is this just me or can someone else confirm?
Look here under CPU support:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=879#cpusupport
Do you guys see the 1700PRO??? I see several of those I wonder what those are.

Enterprise versions for companies to use. They are for workstation PCs, and business computers.

I see.. Would they have something akin to Intel's AMT? ECC? Or are those details yet to be released?

Intel's vPro CPUs is the equivalent, I'd say.

Cheers!

That makes sense, the board says it supports ECC ram under the memory support page.

Uhm... I don't recall Intel vPro CPUs having ECC support though.

Cheers!

They don't. But maybe we should ask Biostar first.


Also, uh... Remember the Intel ME exploit chaos? Look at this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6dinzy/why_do_amds_psp_drivers_make_my_pc_publicly/

Yeah. Fun times ahead and the mobs baying for blood already :/

 

[-Fran-]

Spoiler

Hey is this just me or can someone else confirm?
Look here under CPU support:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=879#cpusupport
Do you guys see the 1700PRO??? I see several of those I wonder what those are.

Enterprise versions for companies to use. They are for workstation PCs, and business computers.

I see.. Would they have something akin to Intel's AMT? ECC? Or are those details yet to be released?

Intel's vPro CPUs is the equivalent, I'd say.

Cheers!

That makes sense, the board says it supports ECC ram under the memory support page.

Uhm... I don't recall Intel vPro CPUs having ECC support though.

Cheers!

They don't. But maybe we should ask Biostar first.


Also, uh... Remember the Intel ME exploit chaos? Look at this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6dinzy/why_do_amds_psp_drivers_make_my_pc_publicly/

Yeah. Fun times ahead and the mobs baying for blood already :/

Wow... That is bad and dumb from a design point of view.

I hope AMD removes that and finds a better alternative.

Cheers!

 

[Nope 1151]

Spoiler

Hey is this just me or can someone else confirm?
Look here under CPU support:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=879#cpusupport
Do you guys see the 1700PRO??? I see several of those I wonder what those are.

Enterprise versions for companies to use. They are for workstation PCs, and business computers.

I see.. Would they have something akin to Intel's AMT? ECC? Or are those details yet to be released?

Intel's vPro CPUs is the equivalent, I'd say.

Cheers!

That makes sense, the board says it supports ECC ram under the memory support page.

Uhm... I don't recall Intel vPro CPUs having ECC support though.

Cheers!

They don't. But maybe we should ask Biostar first.


Also, uh... Remember the Intel ME exploit chaos? Look at this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6dinzy/why_do_amds_psp_drivers_make_my_pc_publicly/

Yeah. Fun times ahead and the mobs baying for blood already :/

Wow... That is bad and dumb from a design point of view.

I hope AMD removes that and finds a better alternative.

Cheers!

Not sure they will. Either it's tin foil hat territory or the fact that ARM trustzone is the culprit.
Either way no need for an Intel AMT repeat :/

 

[cdrkf]

Spoiler

Hey is this just me or can someone else confirm?
Look here under CPU support:
http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=879#cpusupport
Do you guys see the 1700PRO??? I see several of those I wonder what those are.

Enterprise versions for companies to use. They are for workstation PCs, and business computers.

I see.. Would they have something akin to Intel's AMT? ECC? Or are those details yet to be released?

Intel's vPro CPUs is the equivalent, I'd say.

Cheers!

That makes sense, the board says it supports ECC ram under the memory support page.

Uhm... I don't recall Intel vPro CPUs having ECC support though.

Cheers!

They don't. But maybe we should ask Biostar first.


Also, uh... Remember the Intel ME exploit chaos? Look at this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6dinzy/why_do_amds_psp_drivers_make_my_pc_publicly/

Yeah. Fun times ahead and the mobs baying for blood already :/

Lol, I read up on that- it doesn't do what the OP thinks it does. Confirmed by AMD the software only looks locally (no open external ports). It's intended for support tools, should the user choose to install one (e.g. remote assistant type thing). Nothing to see here 😛

 

[randomizer]

The user may choose to install many "support tools" over the lifetime of their computer. This sort of service should be activated when required by people who know what it's used for, not by default.

 

[Nope 1151]

The user may choose to install many "support tools" over the lifetime of their computer. This sort of service should be activated when required by people who know what it's used for, not by default.

I think that's the issue with the thread there.