AMD Says Nvidia is a Little Bitter Over PS4 Deal

[urbanman2004]

I am actually happy for AMD that they acquired the contract for the PS4. Sometime ago I heard AMD was in financial trouble and was close to bankruptcy on a path to ruins. Glad to see they had more tricks up their sleeves than expected. I would hate for NVIDIA to be the only game in town because then that would mean that they would control the market and they could dictate the prices for GPUs which would damper innovation..

 

[danwat1234]

Hmm, Nvidia I guess isn't that bitter since they are giving Physx support for the Xbox 3.

 

[Luieburger]

So when will they make an APU for me that is comparable to the latest Intel CPU and nVidia GPU pairing? My 3 year old PC is already more powerful than the PS4 APU. I want an APU that pushes the limits, and I'll pay for it! Sadly, AMD/ATI hasn't been king of performance for a while. King of price/performance, maybe.

 

[flyrasin]

The guys at green team go green at girls in green with great boobies cheering for the red team.......Another win for AMD.

 

[nokiddingboss]

So when will they make an APU for me that is comparable to the latest Intel CPU and nVidia GPU pairing? My 3 year old PC is already more powerful than the PS4 APU. I want an APU that pushes the limits, and I'll pay for it! Sadly, AMD/ATI hasn't been king of performance for a while. King of price/performance, maybe.

you may want to refrain from comparing intel and nvidia's "latest pairing" since that will set you back for a good $1k+ for those 2 components alone. while a ps4 will roughly set you back for meager $400-450 and will allow you to play sony exclusives and does not need to be upgraded every 2 years. you may argue that it will have inferior graphics but console players aren't going to complain about that. and when the game you want to play is released exclusively for consoles only, no amount of processing power nor gpu grunt can help you unless of course an emulator is released and you are willing to break the law. then good for you.

 

[alienspy66]

>> It'll likely be almost half the price of a 680 alone anyways.

Yeah and it also means that AMD will be selling their chips extremely cheaply while still having high development costs for custom hardware. That's a big opportunity cost right there in terms of where you put the in-house talent. Do you put it in dead-end hardware with low profit margins or in future mobile technology with billions of units selling yearly? Tough business decision to make...

 

[alienspy66]

>>Maybe nVidia can buy VIA and bid on the next-gen consoles ...

VIA's x86 license is non-transferrable after acquisitions. That's how intel rolls about enforcing their monopoly. But I personally think ARM ecosystem will sink Intel to 10b market cap in 5 years.

 

[zephon13]

nVidia could have been part of this project but they're too busy building superior GPU's for supercomputers. They have bigger things to attend to. Consoles like this are just trivial.

Cry about it all you want, PC's are superior. Consoles are just dumb terminals that can play video games and watch movies. Cute.

PC's can handle heavy gaming at much better quality and performance than these pieces of crap. Silly console followers waste their money on single function computing devices instead of a PC that can actually get some real work done. GUESS WHAT. I PLUGGED A USB CONTROLLER INTO MY PC. SUDDENLY IT WORKS JUST LIKE YOUR CONSOLE LOL.

 

[zephon13]

nVidia could have been part of this project but they're too busy building superior GPU's for supercomputers. They have bigger things to attend to. Consoles like this are just trivial.

Cry about it all you want, PC's are superior. Consoles are just dumb terminals that can play video games and watch movies. Cute.

PC's can handle heavy gaming at much better quality and performance than these pieces of crap. Silly console followers waste their money on single function computing devices instead of a PC that can actually get some real work done. GUESS WHAT. I PLUGGED A USB CONTROLLER INTO MY PC. SUDDENLY IT WORKS JUST LIKE YOUR CONSOLE LOL.

 

[airborn824]

And as a PC gamer i can say this is why PS4 will win over XB1, easier production of software and more reliable hardware than before. Tho the graphics will be lame i may buy one just to support my second Fav company, AMD, but i prefier PC and NIntendo due to better games

 

[coolronz]

Drum roll please ..... DirectCompute can finally start being used, no more PhysX stranglehold on the PC community ... YAY!

 

[masmotors]

old

 

[_Manny_]

THAT IS AMAZING! half the performance of a GTX 680 on an integrated chip!! I had no idea that they had come that far.

 

[therogerwilco]

Why is that pic of those stupid girls still around?

 

[therogerwilco]

Why is that pic of those stupid girls still around?

 

[nokiddingboss]

nVidia could have been part of this project but they're too busy building superior GPU's for supercomputers. They have bigger things to attend to. Consoles like this are just trivial.

Cry about it all you want, PC's are superior. Consoles are just dumb terminals that can play video games and watch movies. Cute.

PC's can handle heavy gaming at much better quality and performance than these pieces of crap. Silly console followers waste their money on single function computing devices instead of a PC that can actually get some real work done. GUESS WHAT. I PLUGGED A USB CONTROLLER INTO MY PC. SUDDENLY IT WORKS JUST LIKE YOUR CONSOLE LOL.

the butthurt is strong in this one. learn to let go man. no amount of crying will ever change what has already been done.

 

[tinmann]

At the current rate of GPU development in 2 years the new consoles will once again be inadequate and you'll be stuck with what you have for the next 10 years as technology and the gaming world rapidly leaves you behind. I feel a MUHAHA coming on....MUHAHAHAHA...MUHAHAHAHA

 

[Ahumado]

Write what you want. Where is the video of the AMD babes doing cheers?

 

[toshevopc]

die nvidia )

 

[Beezy]

[citation][nom]antilycus[/nom]who is ready for the same driver issues that have plague AMD/ATI on the GPU side for almost 2 decades? NVIDIA knows how to opitmize. AMD knows how to duplicate and make bigger, but they dont know how to make drivers. Just run AMD GPU's on a Linux box to find out.[/citation]
You're looking at this wrong. When developers have a console, there is one platform, and one set of hardware to code for. Therefore, each and every game is made to work on the exact same hardware specs, OS, and limitations. On the PC side, there are hundreds of variables that drivers must take in to account and try and make everything compatible. When you also have multiple OS's, different CPU and GPU architectures and frequencies, RAM frequency and quantity, main drive type and speed, and so on, the PC starts getting complicated with everything having to be taken into account. It's also a problem of cause and effect where sometimes a driver update fixes one thing, but then that remedy breaks something else.

Two different platforms, one way less time and effort long-term for developers and driver coders to work with, and the other not so much. Maybe you also missed it, but Nintendo has had Radeons for years, and the Xbox 360 has had it as well, really no issues for GPU problems there because they're consoles. I'm just excited for the x86 architecture - finally the possibility of console games being directly native to PC and all platforms released on the same day.

honestly I see just as many people having problems with their 6 and 700 series GTX cards as I do people with AMD cards. I've never had problems with any drivers on both ends.