Anthlon Processors and P4P800 Deluxe

Eric

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Is there any problem with non-intel processors (like the Anthlon) in this
moboard?

I"m thinking of swapping out my P4 2.6 GHZ Intel for an Anthlon -- since
Anthlons get much better performance on Doom3.

What are the issues with swapping out? Would I need to reinstall my OS (Win
XP)?
 
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"Eric" <Eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Is there any problem with non-intel processors (like the Anthlon) in this
> moboard?
>
> I"m thinking of swapping out my P4 2.6 GHZ Intel for an Anthlon -- since
> Anthlons get much better performance on Doom3.
>
> What are the issues with swapping out? Would I need to reinstall my OS
(Win
> XP)?

I don't mean to be cruel, but if you did some more reading about the
"Anthlon" (sic), you'd realize that (a) it's spelled "Athlon" and (b) it's
not compatible with an Intel-socket motherboard. It requires a motherboard
with a socket appropriate for the CPU, which in turn is dependent on which
Athlon CPU you want to use -- the Athlon name has been applied to a number
of different CPUs.
 
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Cool thx -- sorry for the misspelling.

"Shawn Barnhart" <swb@grasslake.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Eric" <Eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:cpmdnRzfqtx3SYXcRVn-oA@speakeasy.net...
> > Is there any problem with non-intel processors (like the Anthlon) in
this
> > moboard?
> >
> > I"m thinking of swapping out my P4 2.6 GHZ Intel for an Anthlon -- since
> > Anthlons get much better performance on Doom3.
> >
> > What are the issues with swapping out? Would I need to reinstall my OS
> (Win
> > XP)?
>
> I don't mean to be cruel, but if you did some more reading about the
> "Anthlon" (sic), you'd realize that (a) it's spelled "Athlon" and (b) it's
> not compatible with an Intel-socket motherboard. It requires a
motherboard
> with a socket appropriate for the CPU, which in turn is dependent on which
> Athlon CPU you want to use -- the Athlon name has been applied to a number
> of different CPUs.
>
>
>
 
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In article <cpmdnRzfqtx3SYXcRVn-oA@speakeasy.net>, Eric@nospam.com
says...
> I"m thinking of swapping out my P4 2.6 GHZ Intel for an Anthlon -- since
> Anthlons get much better performance on Doom3.

Unless you have a really slow system (includes video, motherboard, CPU,
RAM, hard drive) your computer is already faster than you are, so is it
really worth the effort?

Also, a Intel chipset motherboard can not support a AMD chip and the
same is true in reverse.

If you want to do something that will make your machine perform better,
get a quality AGP video card, at least 512MB of RAM, and a high-
performance hard drive.

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"Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
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> S939,S940 Athlon64 dual channel memory 64 bit processor

What's the difference between socket 939 and 940? When looking to build a
new system this summer, I toyed with an A64 system but they're kind of all
over the map with their sockets for that line of CPUs.

940 appears to be only for the FX-53, while 939 only supports FX-53 939 CPUs
and one A64 CPU, all the rest of the A64s being on 754 boards.

I settled on P4-3.2 for some cost/performance considerations; the A64 would
have been more appealing if you could buy an A64/3400 in 939 format and know
that it was going to be the standard socket for the next 18 months or so,
making a drop-in upgrade of a faster A64 a better bargain.
 
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In article <411a247f$0$65568$a1866201@newsreader.visi.com>, "Shawn
Barnhart" <swb@grasslake.net> wrote:

> "Paul" <nospam@needed.com> wrote in message
> news:nospam-1008041630550001@192.168.1.177...
>
> > S939,S940 Athlon64 dual channel memory 64 bit processor
>
> What's the difference between socket 939 and 940? When looking to build a
> new system this summer, I toyed with an A64 system but they're kind of all
> over the map with their sockets for that line of CPUs.
>
> 940 appears to be only for the FX-53, while 939 only supports FX-53 939 CPUs
> and one A64 CPU, all the rest of the A64s being on 754 boards.
>
> I settled on P4-3.2 for some cost/performance considerations; the A64 would
> have been more appealing if you could buy an A64/3400 in 939 format and know
> that it was going to be the standard socket for the next 18 months or so,
> making a drop-in upgrade of a faster A64 a better bargain.

S940 uses registered memory, and takes Opteron or a couple of
FX processors (1MB cache) in S940 pinout. Sample motherboard = SK8N
which can use 4 x 2GB registered DIMMs.

FX53 (940) 1MB cache 2.4GHz $775 <---+--- Are these the same ???
Opterons starting at $158 |
Opteron model 150 1MB cache 2.4GHz $638 <---+

S939 uses unbuffered memory, and takes Athlon64FX (1MB cache) or
Athlon64 (512K cache) in S939 pinout. Sample motherboard = A8V
which can use 4 x 1GB unbuffered DIMMs and gives maybe 3.5GB usable
due to PCI/AGP address space overlap.

FX53 (939) 1MB cache 2.4GHz $839
Athlon64 3800+ 512KB 2.4GHz $652
Athlon64 3500+ 512KB 2.2GHz $353

For comparison, with no particular care as to accuracy. The prices
seem to fit a curve, more or less.

P4 3.2C S478 512KB (Northwood) $292
P4 3.2E S478 1MB (Prescott) $275
P4 3.2 S775 1MB (Prescott) $288 (not passing savings to customer)
P4 3.4C S478 512KB (Northwood) $416
P4 3.4 S775 1MB (Prescott) $422
P4 3.4EE S478 L2=512KB/L3=2MB $995
P4 3.6 S775 1MB (Prescott) ($637) (not shipping in volume ???)

A64 S754 3400+ 512KB 2.4GHz $292 Newcastle
A64 S754 3400+ 1MB cache 2.2GHz $305 Clawhammer
A64 S754 3700+ 1MB cache 2.4GHz $535

With AMD, you can use S940 to span a range of processor prices
from $158 to $775. Socket 939 starts pretty high up the ladder,
in terms of price and performance level $353 to $839, leaving
socket 754 to fill in the lower price and performance points.

S775 should be cheaper to make than S478, due to no pins on package,
and I guess Intel gets a bit more margin, while the customer pays
more for the socket to house it.

HTH,
Paul