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What's the overall effect on D2 from WOW?

For myself, I'm playing WOW exclusively. Tried CD mod but it was just a
little too much to deal with (limited brain cells or something here). I
prefer a warrior type in playing and feel that 1.10 makes playing a
warrior or an Amazon bowazon totally worthless.

Anyway, I notice the dramatic drop of postings in this group with the
release of WOW and wonder .... the online world at WOW seems far better,
safer, and more regulated/protected than Diablo online, which appears to
me to be rife with people who run bots, rip people off and on and on.

So, is WOW the final nail in the coffin of the now forgotten (by Blizzard)
Diablo 2? Are the only people left Diabloheads who have spent their gaming
time saving up stuff so that they can equip their character better than a
small army?

Thanks!


VelvetElvis
 
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VelvetElvis wrote::

> What's the overall effect on D2 from WOW?

[...]

> Anyway, I notice the dramatic drop of postings in this group with the
> release of WOW and wonder ....

I can't say. I'll try WOW some day, but currently I'm still happy with
D2. Overall D2 is now a pretty old game, mabe the drop is a quite
natural effect?

> the online world at WOW seems far better,
> safer, and more regulated/protected than Diablo online, which appears to
> me to be rife with people who run bots, rip people off and on and on.

I don't know how many bots are there, and how many people try to play
bad on other players.

I think it's more or less the same as in real life, there are different
people with different aim. But I think it's no problem to find good
company for a good game. Maybe it depends what you expect from the game.

> So, is WOW the final nail in the coffin of the now forgotten (by Blizzard)
> Diablo 2? Are the only people left Diabloheads who have spent their gaming
> time saving up stuff so that they can equip their character better than a
> small army?

After so many years of D2, I just think it wears off a bit. I played D2
with breaks since it came out, but I also play other games. It's a
matter of taste.

> Thanks!
>
> VelvetElvis

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c.u. Hajo
 
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I am still a constant Diablo 2 LOD player. I tend to believe that yes you
should pay for your game but not have to pay to play the game afterwards.

Jake Mysterio - The Mysterious One of Nothingness.



"VelvetElvis" <reallyNO@SPAM4me.xyz> wrote in message
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>
>
> What's the overall effect on D2 from WOW?
>
> For myself, I'm playing WOW exclusively. Tried CD mod but it was just a
> little too much to deal with (limited brain cells or something here). I
> prefer a warrior type in playing and feel that 1.10 makes playing a
> warrior or an Amazon bowazon totally worthless.
>
> Anyway, I notice the dramatic drop of postings in this group with the
> release of WOW and wonder .... the online world at WOW seems far better,
> safer, and more regulated/protected than Diablo online, which appears to
> me to be rife with people who run bots, rip people off and on and on.
>
> So, is WOW the final nail in the coffin of the now forgotten (by Blizzard)
> Diablo 2? Are the only people left Diabloheads who have spent their gaming
> time saving up stuff so that they can equip their character better than a
> small army?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> VelvetElvis
 
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:20:33 GMT, "Jake Mysterio" <cretin@dodo.com.au>
wrote:

>I am still a constant Diablo 2 LOD player. I tend to believe that yes you
>should pay for your game but not have to pay to play the game afterwards.
>
>Jake Mysterio - The Mysterious One of Nothingness.

Me too... I haven't gotten World of WarCraft yet and don't know if I
ever will. I had WarCraft III but didn't play it that much... and
when I did play online, it seems every game I went into, my teammate
would say something like: "r u a n00b?", and then I, being new, would
have to say "yes" and then they would curse at me for it. At least,
that happened a couple of times.

World of WarCraft seems complicated from what I've read. Maybe it's
good, and maybe I should try it... maybe I someday will... but I don't
feel like paying for games more than once. It just doesn't seem
right. I don't know that I'm very against it so much that I don't
even think they should exist, but I don't think I would actually ever
buy a game that required multiple payments to play. Of course... the
multiple payments are just for playing online, right, for WoW?
 
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VelvetElvis wrote:
> So, is WOW the final nail in the coffin of the now forgotten (by
> Blizzard) Diablo 2? Are the only people left Diabloheads who have
> spent their gaming time saving up stuff so that they can equip their
> character better than a small army?
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> VelvetElvis


Played WoW for a couple of months until finding as many or more asshats
there than ever played D2. With no way to escape from WoW's asshats, I quit
playing it and came back to playing D2, although I don't play nearly as much
as I once did.

--
chainbreaker
 
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 11:26:15 +1200, "~misfit~"
<misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz> wrote:

>I haven't heard the expression "asshat" since I read my last Kurt Vonnegut
>book. Thanks for the memory. 🙂

Where does it come from, and what does it mean?

I can only hope this isn't a question that will earn me much
taunting...
 
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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 15:15:03 +1200, "~misfit~"
<misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz> wrote:

>Kurt Vonnegut, a great American author, says that an asshat is someone who
>wears his ass for a hat. In other words, has his head up his ass. I've never
>seen the term used outside a Vonnegut novel before but then I'm not
>American. It may be that Kurt coined the term himself or it may be peculiar
>to a certain part of the USA.
>
>Kurt has some strange definitions of words though. He also says that a
>'twerp' is someone who wears false teeth between his ass checks so he can
>bite the buttons off upholstery. LOL, he's a good read.
>
>If you haven't read him I strongly reccomend that you do. I had a friend who
>has only read one book in his life and that was 'Breakfast of Champions' by
>KV.

Hmmm... OK, that at least makes sense. It's not as strange of a thing
to call someone as I at first thought. For some reason I think part
of me was expecting a more complicated explanation. But that's not
complicated, and actually makes sense easily. Well... now I know!

I don't read many books, but maybe... maybe someday...
 
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"VelvetElvis" <reallyNO@SPAM4me.xyz> wrote in message
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> What's the overall effect on D2 from WOW?
>
> For myself, I'm playing WOW exclusively. Tried CD mod but it was just a
> little too much to deal with (limited brain cells or something here). I
> prefer a warrior type in playing and feel that 1.10 makes playing a
> warrior or an Amazon bowazon totally worthless.
> Anyway, I notice the dramatic drop of postings in this group with the
> release of WOW and wonder .... the online world at WOW seems far better,
> safer, and more regulated/protected than Diablo online, which appears to
> me to be rife with people who run bots, rip people off and on and on.

I think the improved attention to complaints in WoW comes from having paying
subscribers.
Unhappy subscribers can equate to an immediate loss of income to Blizz. :)

> So, is WOW the final nail in the coffin of the now forgotten (by Blizzard)
> Diablo 2? Are the only people left Diabloheads who have spent their gaming
> time saving up stuff so that they can equip their character better than a
> small army?

I haven't played D2 since getting WoW and I'm enjoying it immensly. D2 still
figures as one of the greatest games I've played but I was getting bored
after so many years, most of my mules were left to expire and my remaining
playing accounts were given away.

WoW still isn't perfect "but" it is clearly the best there is at the moment
and is going to be here for a long time. They have some fantastic things
planned for future release also

cheers,
Stu.
*still drop by agd2 every now and then.
 
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"chainbreaker" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> VelvetElvis wrote:
>> So, is WOW the final nail in the coffin of the now forgotten (by
>> Blizzard) Diablo 2? Are the only people left Diabloheads who have
>> spent their gaming time saving up stuff so that they can equip their
>> character better than a small army?
>
> Played WoW for a couple of months until finding as many or more asshats
> there than ever played D2. With no way to escape from WoW's asshats, I
> quit playing it and came back to playing D2, although I don't play nearly
> as much as I once did.

Apart from a large circle of D2 gaming friends D2 was rampant with "asshats"
(unless things have changed since I stopped playing) drop stealing, botting,
PKing etc. As someone has stated before, every population has the same
percentage of "asshats", increase the number of people and you increase the
number of asshats. :)

cheers,
Stu.
*If you ever come back to WoW and the Llane realm look up anyone from the
Justus guild. Almost all of us are ex-diablo and muture... apart from me.
:)

Ossian (Human- Priest)
Berek (Human- Paladin)
Atto (Dwarf- Hunter)
 
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"3phAse" <3phAse@elektrickery.com> writes:

> As someone has stated before, every population has the same
> percentage of "asshats", increase the number of people and you increase the
> number of asshats. :)

Right, but with D2 the most people you could have in one game was 8,
which reduces the chances of having an asshat near you. In WoW, there
are enough people in any given location that the probability of
encountering an asshat is 1.0.

Nick

--
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print ''.join([chr(ord(x)-1) for x in 'Ojdl!Wbshjti!=ojdlAwbshjti/psh?'])
 
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On Thu, 14 Apr 2005 02:34:59 GMT, VelvetElvis <reallyNO@SPAM4me.xyz>
wrote:
>
>What's the overall effect on D2 from WOW?
>
I played WoW for a little over 2 months before I got tired of the
griefing on the PvP servers. I thought about going back to the PvM
servers with some of my friends, but I realized that I just didn't
want to invest the time or money.

I haven't really switched back to D2 yet, but it's been in the back of
my mind. I know they reset the ladders last year, but I am not sure
when they will do it again (anyone know?).

Maybe I'll get back into D2 when I have some time. My Lightning Fury
Amazon was great as was my Freezadin when I played.

- Samiel
 
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I pop in and out occasionly. I get a little bit of fix with SW
Battlefront, but i am waiting for Hellgate:London (D3).

"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz> wrote in message
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> chainbreaker wrote:
>> VelvetElvis wrote:
>>> So, is WOW the final nail in the coffin of the now forgotten (by
>>> Blizzard) Diablo 2? Are the only people left Diabloheads who have
>>> spent their gaming time saving up stuff so that they can equip their
>>> character better than a small army?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> VelvetElvis
>>
>>
>> Played WoW for a couple of months until finding as many or more
>> asshats there than ever played D2. With no way to escape from WoW's
>> asshats, I quit playing it and came back to playing D2, although I
>> don't play nearly as much as I once did.
>
> I haven't heard the expression "asshat" since I read my last Kurt Vonnegut
> book. Thanks for the memory. 🙂
> --
> ~misfit~
>
>
 
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3phAse wrote:
> Apart from a large circle of D2 gaming friends D2 was rampant with
> "asshats" (unless things have changed since I stopped playing) drop
> stealing, botting, PKing etc. As someone has stated before, every
> population has the same percentage of "asshats", increase the number
> of people and you increase the number of asshats. :)
>

True, but in D2 you can get away from them . . .

> cheers,
> Stu.
> *If you ever come back to WoW and the Llane realm look up anyone from
> the Justus guild. Almost all of us are ex-diablo and muture... apart
> from me. :)
>
> Ossian (Human- Priest)
> Berek (Human- Paladin)
> Atto (Dwarf- Hunter)

Playing with the folks in the guild was about the best WoW experience I had.
Unfortunately, it's not really possible to play with the Guild members all
the time, and even more unfortunately, there's no way for the Guild to
create private games.

I can almost sorta positively state that I won't be coming back. 🙂

--
chainbreaker
 
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VelvetElvis <reallyNO@SPAM4me.xyz> had this idea for a movie:

>
>
>What's the overall effect on D2 from WOW?
>
>For myself, I'm playing WOW exclusively. Tried CD mod but it was just a
>little too much to deal with (limited brain cells or something here). I
>prefer a warrior type in playing and feel that 1.10 makes playing a
>warrior or an Amazon bowazon totally worthless.

I played WOW for 2-3 months before one day realising I was completely bored
with it. I stopped playing and haven't been back since. I'm back playing D2
now, but since my time availability has greatly decreased recently, it's for
only a few hours per week.
 
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"~misfit~" <misfit61nz@hooya.co.nz> wrote in message
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> 3phAse wrote:
>> "chainbreaker" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>> news:d3mhso02cln@news4.newsguy.com...
>>> VelvetElvis wrote:
>>>> So, is WOW the final nail in the coffin of the now forgotten (by
>>>> Blizzard) Diablo 2? Are the only people left Diabloheads who have
>>>> spent their gaming time saving up stuff so that they can equip their
>>>> character better than a small army?
>>>
>>> Played WoW for a couple of months until finding as many or more
>>> asshats there than ever played D2. With no way to escape from WoW's
>>> asshats, I quit playing it and came back to playing D2, although I
>>> don't play nearly as much as I once did.
>>
>> Apart from a large circle of D2 gaming friends D2 was rampant with
>> "asshats" (unless things have changed since I stopped playing) drop
>> stealing, botting, PKing etc. As someone has stated before, every
>> population has the same percentage of "asshats", increase the number
>> of people and you increase the number of asshats. :)
>>
>> cheers,
>> Stu.
>> *If you ever come back to WoW and the Llane realm look up anyone from
>> the Justus guild. Almost all of us are ex-diablo and muture... apart
>> from me. :)
>
> Good to see you again Stu. BlueShoeStu is in hell and doing well. I gave
> him
> a Cresent Moon phase blade and the use of an HoZ, along with a few other
> goodies. Frost Zealots are one of my favourite characters, I already had
> three patriarchs this ladder before I started playing Bluey.

Heya Misfit! Nice gear upgrade. :) Great to hear you're getting some use
out of the accounts.

>> Ossian (Human- Priest)
>> Berek (Human- Paladin)
>> Atto (Dwarf- Hunter)
>
> That wouldn't be Berek Half-hand would it?

Nicely spotted! Yep, I really enjoyed the Thomas Covenant trilogies, and
when I can't think of a name for a character I usually resort to books or
"Magic: The Gathering" for character names.

cheers,
Stu.
*I have a low level Rogue called Bannor as well. :)
 
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"chainbreaker" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> 3phAse wrote:
>> Apart from a large circle of D2 gaming friends D2 was rampant with
>> "asshats" (unless things have changed since I stopped playing) drop
>> stealing, botting, PKing etc. As someone has stated before, every
>> population has the same percentage of "asshats", increase the number
>> of people and you increase the number of asshats. :)
>>
> True, but in D2 you can get away from them . . .

I've never had much of a problem getting away from problem people in WoW but
they could improve things. "/ignore" is good but I would like to be able to
/ignore an account. There is also a third-party addon to mark toons as
friend or wanker, this should be a default inclusion in Blizzards UI.

>> cheers,
>> Stu.
>> *If you ever come back to WoW and the Llane realm look up anyone from
>> the Justus guild. Almost all of us are ex-diablo and mature... apart
>> from me. :)
>>
>> Ossian (Human- Priest)
>> Berek (Human- Paladin)
>> Atto (Dwarf- Hunter)
>
> Playing with the folks in the guild was about the best WoW experience I
> had. Unfortunately, it's not really possible to play with the Guild
> members all the time, and even more unfortunately, there's no way for the
> Guild to create private games.

I agree, I'm on Australian (west) time (+8gmt) and it's difficult to find
people sometimes. Most of my questing has been solo (fairly difficult for a
young priest) or partied with strangers which has led to some of my worst
WoW encounters. I say "worst" but still nothing that would make me stop
playing, just rolling on drops they shouldn't, being a bossy tool in chat or
repeatedly ignoring the group's instructions.

> I can almost sorta positively state that I won't be coming back. 🙂

lol... so almost certainly kinda. Got it. :)

cheers,
Stu.
 
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3phase wrote:
> I've never had much of a problem getting away from problem people in
> WoW but they could improve things. "/ignore" is good but I would
> like to be able to /ignore an account. There is also a third-party
> addon to mark toons as friend or wanker, this should be a default
> inclusion in Blizzards UI.

What laid WoW to rest for me was the ever increasing numbers of asshats 15
and up levels higher than the monsters, etc. I kept running into in areas I
was questing in who kept sweeping through and totally wiping the board of
all resources. This is something even playing with guild members can't
help.

I don't mind competing with others approximately my level for resources, but
BS like that, uhuh. In D2, if you're doing a NM Baal run and a level 90
comes along hogging everything you can just /w the others, and create a new
passworded game that leaves the l90 asshat out of it. WoW doesn't have that
option, of course.

Oh, and in reference to KV's Breakfast of Champions, brought up in another
part of the thread, I'd advise anybody reading that to refrain from
eating/drinking anything while doing so, lest you accidentally choke
yourself. 🙂
--
chainbreaker
 
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"chainbreaker" <noone@nowhere.com> had this idea for a movie:

>Unfortunately, it's not really possible to play with the Guild members all
>the time,

This was one concern I had very early on, and it was disappointing to see it
become a reality pretty early on.

>I can almost sorta positively state that I won't be coming back. 🙂

I'll most likely give it another go once ald gets up and running. And I hear
there's been a big patch released since I last played...

I've been wanting to have another go at D2 hardcore mode, since there's a nice
group forming on USWest HC, but with connectivity and my availability being
what they are these days, it just hasn't gotten off the ground. So mostly
I've been doing the odd bit of MF on West SCL, and a little bit of questing a
couple of newish projects when I actually find one of the usual suspects
online at the same time I am.
 
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On that special day, 3phase, (someone@microsoft.com) said...

> when I can't think of a name for a character I usually resort to books or
> "Magic: The Gathering" for character names.

I resort to my tattered Latin and non-existent Greek, which will make
it easier to find a name, which isn't already taken. Yet, I had to try
three variants for my little Assassain on Europe. There must be too
many Latin^WItalians and Greeks playing there 🙂


Gabriele Neukam

Gabriele.Spamfighter.Neukam@t-online.de


--
Ah, Information. A property, too valuable these days, to give it away,
just so, at no cost.
 
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Gabriele Neukam wrote:
> I resort to my tattered Latin and non-existent Greek, which will make
> it easier to find a name, which isn't already taken. Yet, I had to try
> three variants for my little Assassain on Europe. There must be too
> many Latin^WItalians and Greeks playing there 🙂
>

Hmm, I rarely have that problem. Imagine my surprise to find that both
"MountainAss" and "FluffButt" were available for my latest project, a
yet-to-be-determined zon build.

I guess that simply means there's a dearth of semi-creative character-naming
crudity on the realms. 🙂
--
chainbreaker
 
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"chainbreaker" <noone@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> 3phase wrote:
>> I've never had much of a problem getting away from problem people in
>> WoW but they could improve things. "/ignore" is good but I would
>> like to be able to /ignore an account. There is also a third-party
>> addon to mark toons as friend or wanker, this should be a default
>> inclusion in Blizzards UI.
>
> What laid WoW to rest for me was the ever increasing numbers of asshats 15
> and up levels higher than the monsters, etc. I kept running into in areas
> I was questing in who kept sweeping through and totally wiping the board
> of all resources. This is something even playing with guild members can't
> help.

Low level areas have low level resourses so I'm not sure why high toons
would do this (I have witnessed it myself though, just not often) I assume
they've picked up a profession like Mining or Herbalism late in life that
they need to train.

I have ten toons on Llane and most of my competition for resources is from
similar level toons. I should add that as an Australian my hours may be
strange and that may help me out.

cheers,
Stu.
My Herbalism is now at 293 and I run into valuable herbs so often when
questing that I don't really need to specifically farm for them.
 
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"Stephen van Ham" <svanham@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> VelvetElvis <reallyNO@SPAM4me.xyz> had this idea for a movie:
>>What's the overall effect on D2 from WOW?
>
>>For myself, I'm playing WOW exclusively. Tried CD mod but it was just a
>>little too much to deal with (limited brain cells or something here). I
>>prefer a warrior type in playing and feel that 1.10 makes playing a
>>warrior or an Amazon bowazon totally worthless.
>
> I played WOW for 2-3 months before one day realising I was completely
> bored
> with it. I stopped playing and haven't been back since. I'm back
> playing D2
> now, but since my time availability has greatly decreased recently, it's
> for
> only a few hours per week.

But we have so many goodies to offer you now!
*dangles shiny bauble in front of Stephen*
*whispers* "you will come back to WoW... you will come back to WoW"

cheers,
Stu.
 
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"3phAse" <3phAse@elektrickery.com> had this idea for a movie:

>But we have so many goodies to offer you now!
>*dangles shiny bauble in front of Stephen*
>*whispers* "you will come back to WoW... you will come back to WoW"

Hehe, by the time ald gets up and running, and game will have been patched so
many times that I won't even recognise it.

Have any of the guildies hit 60 yet?
 
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"Stephen van Ham" <svanham@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> "3phAse" <3phAse@elektrickery.com> had this idea for a movie:
>
>>But we have so many goodies to offer you now!
>>*dangles shiny bauble in front of Stephen*
>>*whispers* "you will come back to WoW... you will come back to WoW"
>
> Hehe, by the time ald gets up and running, and game will have been patched
> so
> many times that I won't even recognise it.
>
> Have any of the guildies hit 60 yet?

We have two level 60s, one very close (58-9) and about 6 in the level 45-55
bracket. My Priest (main) is 48 and I've been leveling her "very" slowly (9
alts). Some members have alts in other guilds of good to high level and
hopefully guild freindships can be formed for the 40 player raids. I can't
wait. :)

cheers,
Stu.
 
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