Apple: A PC is No Bargain!

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ROFL!

What a load of crap.

SO this guy is saying Apple is worth the extra 500-100 dollars because PC's are not cool? So he is basically confirming what the pro-MS adverts have been saying, you pay lots of extra $$$ for a badge and "coolness".

All the rest of his talk about paying for anti-virus etc is a load of bull.
1) Mac's need anti-virus now
2) There are a whole bunch of free anti-virus for PC
3) Most routers have in-built firewall - just need to know how to configure it properly. If you dont know, ask someone.
4) Loads of free image manipulation programs - no need to spend $$$$ on professional packages.

MS should reply, why have they refused to comment? they could destroy this guy's claims.
 
[citation][nom]pile[/nom]I guess buying the laptop i liked the best makes me a moron. If the $3000 price tag bothered me then i guess i would find a new career. It was one of the best purchases i have ever made.[/citation]


Sure, cos everyone can walk into a new career just to be able to afford $3000 for a Mac Pro

"Hey I'm janitor and want a new computer, tomorrow I am going to get a job as chief executive so I can afford a Mac."
LOL

Oh, and why did you like it best? Cos it is shiny and cool?
 
"A PC is no bargain when it doesn't do what you want"

Hmm the hardcore gaming rig I built does exactly what I want. Not only that, it was *much* cheaper than the best Mac, which cant even touch the performance of my custom built monster!

Yet another Epic fail from Apple...
 
As a pc user I will say that pc users are probably more techno savvy than Mac users. What I mean is us pc users are more likely to tinker and enjoy tinkering with his/her system. We enjoy getting the most out of it and occasionally tweaking and finding free software to enhance our experience. I'm not sure, but I guess it's possibly that many Mac users want to get their pc, get to work and not worry about anything at all.

That said, I've been pricing out new parts at the Egg and for a Phenom II X4 3.0Ghz cpu, four Gb memory, HD4870, 750Gb hdd, case, PSU, DVD, etc etc it'll run less than $1000 even if I buy an OS. This assumes I reuse my monitor. So I guess the questions is, if I buy a Dell with those specs what'll it cost? If I buy a Mac, what'll it cost? Both will be well over $1k.

Well I just looked. The Mac Pro (quad core) has lower specs and runs $2,500. A similarly equipped Dell runs $1,800. Both come with no monitor.

The pc is ~$700 less, but my custom build saves an extra $800. I can essentially build a pc for $1,500 less than a Mac Pro. Maybe the extra $1,500 can be put toward two mortgage payments. Sounds well enough.
 
:) most interesting board that i have read in a while.
PC has much more flexibility and choice, as for looks " MAC users go and see Panasonic toughbooks semi rouged PC's" better quality and for me better looks to.
 
My eyes rolled so hard that they kept spinning for an hour.


There is so much good free software out there that this morons claims are completely unsubstantiated.
 
I already have all the software I need for the PC. I have decades of knowledge about how to configure and upgrade a PC. The screen resolution on my 8.9" HP Mini-note is better (1280 x 800) than even a 13" mac notebook and looks every bit as cool as a mac.

You can always tell when a company is selling something that nobody needs...they lie, lie, and lie some more about their product and its competition.
 
So he says that Apple comes with everything you need and pc users have to spend money. I should be clear and say that I don't care what anyone buys. If it makes you happy then get it. No shame in that. But a pc has all the stuff anyone needs without the extras. Like everyone has said, there is AVG, Zone Alarm, Gimp, Picasa, OpenOffice.org, etc etc.

Now if you're an enthusiast this software might not be good enough. If you are really into photo editing, Gimp won't cover it, but will Mac's included software cover it? Enthusiasts and pros will likely want something like Adobe CS4, which isn't bundled with anything. Video editing isn't good enough for the enthusiast.

I guess my point is that both computers will come with the bare essentials, but neither bundles the software to cover the enthusiast.

So get what's in your budget. Get what makes you happy.
 
The geek squad argument is pretty pathetic. If you are awesome enough to use geek squad then maybe it should be mandatory that you trade in your Windows Based PC for a Mac Based PC (notice how I distinctly mentioned that these were both PCs, isn't that so weird?!?!). The software that comes with Mac is not that great. "OMG I can put up videos on youtube in like 5 mins, omg wth ftw, I am so excited!!!"
Oh and you can't pull out the whole, well you don't own one so your opinion is invalid, blah blah blah. Not to mention I have repaired more Macs then probably 95% of the people here and lets ask why? Oh thats because mac based pcs don't really have warranties and you go take it to a mac store and the idiots are more worthless than a compusa salesman from HS, they just sit there listening to their stupid ipod while ignoring you and trying to rush you out the door with $5000 of merchandies, so that's why they bring it to me.
Oh and let's not forget pwn2own, 2 minutes ftw? The guy who won prefers apple because it's easier to break? omg no, that can't be right, no no, mac os is unix based, therefore bullet proof. Sure maybe closer to bullet proof if it was left open source and not polluted by these innovative mac devs (by innovative I mean take ideas from other sources that aren't very well known and apply many layers of gloss to it and claim all the innovation). "OMG you stole chess from mac os, omg omg i hate vista they stole chess".
I have no problem with mac users, just fanboys really.
for some people yes a mac pc is a better fit, sadly it is true. for others the windows based pc is a better fit. and yet even linux is a better fit for many, but they just dont know.
 
[citation][nom]eddieroolz[/nom]Another win for Microsoft. Apple is turning into desperation mode, the direct reply to a Microsoft commercial shows it.[/citation]

But wait, hasn't this whole MS ad campaign been the result of the Apple Mac vs PC ads? Or is it because MS sees Apple's 8% market share as being a threat? Both corporations should focus on what their products provide for the consumer.

The ads by MS that address their service solutions are good. A consumer can see what they can get from the product.

Either way you look at it...the geek factor belongs to those who build and program their own boxes. There will always be a very large market share that does not want to have anything to do with any hardware, or trouble shooting. The latter is the crowd that both MS and Mac are vying for in these ads since they far out number the type of users who read TH.

Personally, I think the Mac ads suck as do the MS ads...just give me some good TV.
 
[citation][nom]PrangeWay[/nom] The signature of a corporate bully like Apple.[/citation]

Look at the history of MS if you want to see who defined corporate bullies. MS is anything but stellar.
 
I actually work for Geek Squad as a part time job and I agree with the comments I read but it's $70 for a Diag....NOT $129. If you're going to make a case for Apple, the first step is at least get your mudslinging comments correct. I'd also like to know what the Genius Bar at Mac stores encompasses.
 
Apple is constantly comparing their latest products to what PCs were like ten years ago. When you have to stoop to misrepresenting your competition, maybe it's time to just give up.
 
Where apple can blow turdy Microsoft out of the water is in its "ready to use" ability. I am a savy PC user who has grown up with windows. A while ago I wanted to get movies off my camcorder and onto DVDs. Well after going through 3 software packages (I won't name them here) including movie maker not a single DVD was I able to create. 2 months ago I bought a macbook (used on ebay no less!), installed the latest iLife and I have DVDs galore with some pretty exciting effects. I just started using green screen to create some pretty snazzy stuff. While I ain't giving up windows yet because I've got software that I don't have for the mac my migration has started.
 
I've wasted enough time at work reading 2 pages of these comments.

I've heard too many comments saying you can't game on a mac. That is incorrect. You cannot game on mac os x; their operating system. You can game on a mac using windows xp, very well, with even their lowest end models.

Someone also said apple should lower their margins. Their margins are very low for all of their entry level computers. It's when you add extra's the margins go way up. Also mac book pros and imacs have a moderate margin on entry, but it's not any more than a sony or dell margin, for good design.

The response was a joke. The majority of you were just too dumb to get it.
 
fyi rsud you can use fusion to do just about anything windows related on a mac (and linux if it so fancies you). The only thing I've found that lags is video and I'm using the newest entry level macbook.

also mac has open source software you dumbasses. Microsoft actually has very VERY little open source software, it's just that the people who use windows have open source software. Windows has more, because their are more users.

lemme ask you this. What equivilents are their in windows for quicksilver, adium+growl, quicksilver, expose (that isn't buggy), quicksilver, visor, sleep that lasts a week without dieing, and ofcourse quicksilver.

just to say the same thing over again. Apple's quality is very high end. Very few laptops on the market have as good of a screen as the macbook's screen and the high end macbook pro's have one of the best possible screens you can get!
 
"PC users will spend extra on software like decent virus protection and iLife, which endeavors to take care of all your photo and video-editing needs. Then you’ve got the fact that a GeekSqaud diagnosis is $129 versus the free Genius Bar diagnosis at Apple stores."

AVG: Anti-virus:cost- Free
Picasa: Photo App: Cost- Free
Gimp: Photo editor: Cost- Free
Video, audio, ripping, burning, 3d Application anything else you want, even an Operating system: you just have to look: cost- Free
repair/maintenance: take a day to learn some basic concepts: Cost- Free

Now not even talking about freedom of hardware upgrades, no contest.

I am not a Mac hater/PC lover, just practical. when it comes to a Mac, I simply ask myself... why?

In my 12+ years experience in the media development feild I have come to the following conclusions:

Clueless trendy buy macs
Informed practical buy PC's

My2cents





 
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