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[citation][nom]DuckMySick[/nom]69camaroSS: Are you like 10 years old or something? I believe the general consensus here is that Windows XP has been stable since about 2003. OSX has always had crap stability, Apple compensates by censoring bug reports on their forums i.e.: pretend there isn't a problem.[/citation]

Wow, and we are just the picture of maturity, Mr. DuckMySick. Again, if Windows is sooooooo good, why are so many people on this site dying for Apple to let them use OSX. I guess it is because of that massive cover-up going on over at Apple. Just read the QOTD from the other day. The general consensus seems to be that OSX is a very desirable alternative to Windows, because people want it licensed for non-apple products.

Stable is a relative term. Stable compared to Windows XP original. Yes, I would agree. Stable compared to OSX, I disagree.
 
I see lot of idiots here who say lot of softwares for windows can be obtained for free. Most of those free softwares take lot of effort to download, setup etc. Not everyone can do.

Not everyone is a geek you morons.

You buy the computer, turn it on and it takes few mins to setup a user account and connect to WiFi AP and few mins later, you can be productive! That what Apple provides...

Ask your mom to setup a WiFi AP on windows machine and you will know what I'm talking about. Bill gates will ask your mom for SSID, open/shared security, WEP or WAP etc.

 
[citation][nom]slickuser[/nom]I see lot of idiots here who say lot of softwares for windows can be obtained for free. Most of those free softwares take lot of effort to download, setup etc. Not everyone can do.Not everyone is a geek you morons. You buy the computer, turn it on and it takes few mins to setup a user account and connect to WiFi AP and few mins later, you can be productive! That what Apple provides...Ask your mom to setup a WiFi AP on windows machine and you will know what I'm talking about. Bill gates will ask your mom for SSID, open/shared security, WEP or WAP etc.[/citation]

i was going to keep quiet and watch but your idiotic response forced me to comment, first of all downloading an anti virus software is the easiest thing to do,it's 2009 moron even octogenarians know how to do that secondly spending an extra 1000 dollars for a mac with mediocre specs and a pretty GUI is just moronic especially when you consider downloading an anti virus program "geeky"....and secondly you are in no position to talk about bill gates,buying a mac would force me to pay too much for a system i could buy for half elsewhere and it would limit me to apple hardware and specs preventing me from upgrading like normal pc users,secondly their OS is not compatible with every software out there,whereas windows is and i would not be able to play games, if the best you can come up with to justify spending almost an extra 1000 dollars for mac is "well it soooo easy to use" then you are the only moron in this discussion.
 
[citation][nom]slickuser[/nom]and comparing cheap plastic laptop to top quality macbook? thats another idiotic ad from Bill gates![/citation]
this is proof of a close minded mac fanboy. Remember diff companies make pc's and some look the same as macbook (or atleast close). Some are all metal (yes coping mac's I would say) while others are plastic, and some are also cheap plastic (not all are cheaply made).
 
[citation][nom]slickuser[/nom]by the way, you don't even need virus software on mac you idiot...[/citation]

Then why would Apple themselves recommend using multiple anti-virus programs? Who's the idiot?
 
Ok, first of all, if you're connecting ANY computer to the internet without anti-virus you're just plain stupid. Secondly, I've NEVER taken my computer to geeksquad, I can fix anything I need myself, and for MUCH cheaper than if I did the same for a mac. The parts are even overpriced! Even if you buy 3rd party parts, even those are more expensive than necessary.

Adding little luxury items on top of a PC doesn't change the fact that people will probably add the same amount to a Mac. Besides, you can probably find the same stuff (if not better) for FREE on a PC.

Try again Apple.
 
HAHA apple is so bad, my school had them before they went with the generic dell, yea the dells they had wernt that good, but everyone knew what to do and didnt have to ask the teacher 13782632 questions how to connect the the school network and save a file. The ones at my school were the retarded colored ones. Worst thing i ever used, i would rather use windows 95. And when i was on a newer mac, maybe a year old. I went to play Yahoo pool, and the whole thing crashed! You know how hard it is on the computer to play yahoo pool, its insane!

Every person i talk to that has a mac always says "WELL THEY ARE HIGHER QUALITY YOU DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT!" I have built my own computer and love it, its super fast, and always reading articles about computers. No matter how many times i try to hammer that nail that says "How about you get a general understanding on how a computer works and how the parts in a computer work, then come talk to me and tell me if you still like mac" into there head, they always deny that a homemade pc is the best.

Macs are so easy because you can do 2 things on them and get 4 sweet applications that are completely fcking worthless. Apple targets the completely clueless people that have no clue on how a computer works and making them think that mac is the right way to go.

I really have no clue how people cant solve simple problems on there computer, BECAUSE USING GOOGLE IS LIKE TRYING TO CUT YOUR LEG OFF WITH SAFETY SCISSORS!

Registry problem... huhuhuhu ccleaner.

Antivirus, The user is the most help to the pc in not getting a virus, maybe not clicking that ad on "how to loose 3 pounds because you cant go on a 2 mile run everyday for a couple of weeks and not eating mccshts". Or thinking your cool because you think you know how to use limewire and dont know what the size of a file even means. Common sense is one of the biggest free anti-virus things anyone can have, and AVG-Free.

I wonder how many people would have not gone to a mac because they couldnt type in google "How to reinstall windows because my computer has accumulated 6 years of crap."

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ok, calm down people. to tell you the truth if you build a pc that can do what an apple machine can do, they will be about the same. apple keeps very close to pc when it comes to prices. i am not talking about macbook pro machines but the macbook laptops. try an high end end machine from alienware or hp that is about the same as top of the line macbook pro and they will be more expensive. it's a fact.
 
[citation][nom]FSXFan[/nom]Then why would Apple themselves recommend using multiple anti-virus programs? Who's the idiot?[/citation]

any OS can and will be brought to it's knees if the virus was developed for it
 
69camaroSS: People are voting you down because they know you are full of sh1t, if I were you I'd rethink your position, or atleast the idea of sharing it in public...
 
Nebun: ...to tell you the truth if you build a pc that can do what an apple machine can do, they will be about the same.

LMAO....are you freakin serious? What planet did you just fall off? I can and did build a ssytem that can own any mac out there for a third of the cost.

Nebun: apple keeps very close to pc when it comes to prices.try an high end end machine from alienware or hp that is about the same as top of the line macbook pro and they will be more expensive. it's a fact.

Once again laughing verrrry hard. You have not went shopping lately I see. You can't buy a low end Mac for anywhere close to what I can build a high end PC for. The truth is that even if I bought a pre built machine it would still be ALOT cheaper than a Mac.

As for lots of people on here wanting to "TRY" out OSX goes. Note the word TRY. People are curious creatures by nature and are always wondering about the unknown. I have read some comments in this thread that actualy mentioned they "TRIED" OSX but then are back to using another OS. Be it Windows ,Linux or another operating system. Seems to me the only true arguement that any Mac user has is that the software in OSX works seemlesly together. I also read one comment on how there are security updates out for OSX every week vs MS' once a month. Hmmmm...why would such a GREAT os need so many updates all the time. If its superior then it shouldnt need as many if any. Constantly having to secure and update your os does not sound like its better to me. Just an observation.

FSXFan :Then why would Apple themselves recommend using multiple anti-virus programs? Who's the idiot?

Nebun: any OS can and will be brought to it's knees if the virus was developed for it

Thanx for helping us out with our point. Someone earlier on said that one of Macs great selling points was the fact that they "NEVER" get viruses. To which he was informed of the fact that they get the "worm" equivalant. Never seen him respond to that one. Hmmmmmm......PWNT!!!

Say what you want but as I see it Mac just is NOT a better product in any way shape or form you wanna package it up in. I get performance, security and ease of use in my pc. I started out as a guy who used to beat up the computer lab kids in junior high and now im the very geek I used to beat up. Funny how life has a way of turning things around on a guy. Call it karma. My point however is that if I can learn how to do simple tasks in a windows environment than so can your average user with very little coaching being needed.

Regards, Regular Joe

PS: Flame on Im done.





 
Yeah so just to clear a few things up.
Geek Squad will try to diagnose on the spot for free. We have tools to do so that take 10-15 minutes. If we can't determine the problem in that time, then we will check it in for a diagnostic, which costs 69.99, not 129.99. IN ADDITION, if you have a MFG warranty and proof of date of purchase from wherever, it's FREE FOR YOU. Apple is such trash.
 
Didn't the pwn2own crew prove that Macs have inferior security? They even talked about it like: "Yeah, OSX doesn't even try to stop you from doing low-level exploits, it's too easy, especially that crap Safari browser".

If you want to keep your Mac secure, stop suggesting that other people go out and buy one too. If Mac gets enough market share, you're fukt, either your computer will be rendered into a useless spambot, or Apple is going to have to learn secure programming really quick...
 
i think they should stay out of the hardware business and sell their os to us PC users to see if is the hardware or the operating system the difference between a mac a PC, I've been using a hackintosh and from my experience i can tell you they are the same using xp or mac os x the hardware work at the same level neither is faster than the other so if they think we should get their OS because is safer than windows sell it to us users and allow a greater number of different hardware not just the two or three variations that they have when that happens i am going t to get their OS and bundle soft soft
 
I loved the recent commercial of the woman taking her 11 year old son to Best Buy to buy a "gaming laptop" for him. After clucking about how "expensive" Macbooks are she buys a sub 1K Sony (that you know has integrated Intel graphics) and stands out in the parking lot crowing about the great deal they got.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qui43P1kztw&feature=PlayList&p=92DB4DF3EC4036D6&index=0&playnext=1

Idiot. I cringed when I saw the ignorant consumer and the Best Buy "associate" conferring on what would be the best laptop for games. lol There's about one laptop in stock at BB that would actually game and she didn't get it.
 
Apples are over prices pieces of crap. I hear people always coming in looking for memory for their stupid Macs and the people at mac try to sell tham regular ddr2 memory for 80 bucks for a gig or 2. It is rediculous how naive Mac consumers are and how stupid they are for paying so much for a retarded computer.

For 1500 Dollars I can buy a high end performance machine, with a Antec Twelve Hundred Case, 850 watts PSU, i7 with 6 gigs of DDR3 1600 mbs of ram, a GTX 295 and a high end performance motherboard. Include that with you pick of XP pro or Vista 64 bit (which actually is a great OS if you knew how to use it correctly) Would destroy any Mac out on the market. People are stupid as hell for wasting money on the biggest paper weight around. Mac should stand for. Men Accepting Crap.
 
Apple users are all hippie, "free spirit" nuts who like to sit at Starbucks sipping lattes and looking cool. Look at me! I'm using an Apple and I'm too cool to work at home. I need others to see how cool I am writing my own screenplay!

Like I said before, I bought an Acer Intel Dual Core PC w/ 15.4" screen for $399. Upgrading the ram to 4GB cost me $40. What can I get for $440 at the Apple store? A high end ipod video?
 
What the Apple spokesman should have said was that Macs are wonderful, attractive, mostly trouble free devices for people who have absolutely no idea or inclination to learn how to maintain a personal computer. That is a lot of people, but it does not apply to the people on this board.

And keither5150: Buy some licenses for those work stations! What you are doing is wrong and your actions contribute to ruining it all for the rest of us. I paid for the full version AVG for my home office because it is the right thing to do and it supports a company that is doing good things.

 
This guy obviously didn't run his comments past the PR committee.

However, I own both PC's and Mac, and must say I like both. I just came off owning a brand new HP laptop that I traded out for a new Macbook Pro (my first Mac ever). I'll never go back to a PC laptop...ever. With Windows 7 build 7057 running on my bootcamp partition, I've got everything I want. And yes, the Mac experience begins just by holding the laptop. It IS that much cooler. And by that I mean slimmer, sleeker, faster, streamlined, etc. I've owned a lot of computers in the last 15 years, and liked most of them. But getting my hands on the MBP felt like using something from the future. My "cutting edge, brand new" HP was like a boat anchor compared to my Macbook Pro. On top of that, everything I do on a laptop is easier with my MBP...everything. Upgrading the hard drive and reloading the OS was a breeze! And my OS is clean out of the box. No clean install needed to clear out all the preloaded crap.

That said, I will NEVER stop building my own home PC's. B-day for me this year was a brand new core i7 platformed rig with all new components, including an nVidia GTX295 card. It would cost me somewhere in the neighborhood of 7-8k to build this machine with Apple, and it still wouldn't have done the gaming that I want it to do, and I built this machine for $1600.

Bottom line, they both have their place. If you can't afford a Mac, don't buy one. But understand, that $699 HP doesn't play in the same ballpark as a $2000 MBP.
 
How to upgrade Mac: Spend $3000 on a new Mac
How to upgrade PC: Spend $280 on a CPU, $200 on a motherboard, $50 on ram, $300 on video card less than $900 and you've got a brand new PC take on a $150 charge for installation fees, and you still haven't broken $1000
 
There seems to be a surge in Mac fanboys on this site, you have to wonder if Apple is paying(or atleast directly encouraging) people to post favorable comments, since Apples aren't tweakable, you wouldn't expect Mac fanboys on a hardware site. Not that Apple would engage in shady, dishonest, covert marketing or anything like that...
 
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