Battlefield 3 Beta and Battlelog: First Impressions

[palladin9479]

[citation][nom]greghome[/nom]Isn't that the only reason people started playing Battlefield in the first place?Big maps, with vehicles to kill people with?[/citation]

I hope to whatever deity presides over video gaming that EA doesn't just try to make a CoD clone.

If I wanted a FPS frag fest masquerading as a "realistic military shooter" then I'd go for CoD MW2/ect. Not that I actually like those games, having been prior service those games are horribly unrealistic and focus entirely too much on an individuals performance vs teamwork and communication.

Greatest thing I loved about BF2 was that you had these huge maps with lots of vehicles involved. The idea of commander / squad leader action puts significantly more "realism" into play. Someone might not be the best adrenalin hyped button clicker, but if they could properly pilot a helicopter (not crash it while jumping out) then they were gods amongst their friends.

True story, awhile back a bunch of us were playing BF2 and one of our buddie's hobby is piloting remote controlled gas helicopters. He had a full helicopter sim control suite that he was able to map to BF2 helo controls. Dude was a flying god, he could take all of us to any part of the map, dropping people wherever they wanted to go then stay in the air with someone and provide cover fire. We'd take a point and he'd go back down pick us up (not crash the bird) and rush us to the next point. We would run entire maps like this.

 

[lilotimz]

[citation][nom]palladin9479[/nom]I hope to whatever deity presides over video gaming that EA doesn't just try to make a CoD clone.If I wanted a FPS frag fest masquerading as a "realistic military shooter" then I'd go for CoD MW2/ect. Not that I actually like those games, having been prior service those games are horribly unrealistic and focus entirely too much on an individuals performance vs teamwork and communication.Greatest thing I loved about BF2 was that you had these huge maps with lots of vehicles involved. The idea of commander / squad leader action puts significantly more "realism" into play. Someone might not be the best adrenalin hyped button clicker, but if they could properly pilot a helicopter (not crash it while jumping out) then they were gods amongst their friends.True story, awhile back a bunch of us were playing BF2 and one of our buddie's hobby is piloting remote controlled gas helicopters. He had a full helicopter sim control suite that he was able to map to BF2 helo controls. Dude was a flying god, he could take all of us to any part of the map, dropping people wherever they wanted to go then stay in the air with someone and provide cover fire. We'd take a point and he'd go back down pick us up (not crash the bird) and rush us to the next point. We would run entire maps like this.[/citation]

Prepare to be disappointed by Operation Metro Rush... and brought back to life by Caspian Border Conquest (if you catch Zh1n0's password post every now and then)...

 

[trak74]

Ive played this for about 8 hours, Bipod + Infra-red scope seems entirely OP, with the scope, everything is green and enemies are red, u can see them through bushes and off in the distance in prone under a train, so easy to rack up kills with almost 0 recoil bipod lol, at the moment, feels alot like this game is BFBC2 had a baby with COD, smaller maps, alot of achieves and weapon mods, doesnt FEEL much like BF tbh

 

[dormantreign]

I did a review of this as well. I figured you could check it out as some of the things he pointed out in this article i also mentioned.

youtube.com/watch?v=TLQQVJ32iMQ

 

[jasonx0017]

cant wait to play it, what time does the beta open??

 

[Guest]

i'm very disappointed to hear your comments about the sniper, my favorite class in BF2 - maybe i wont switch to BF3 afterall. IN BF2, being killed by machine gun fire way across the map for a sniper is riduculas and hoped EA would have fixed that in BF3 - the sniper needs some advantage at distance.

 

[draphius]

this is not a battlefield game. dice just ruins good games imo. this feels like bfbc2 and medal of honor thrown together. the collision detection is horrendous and just runnin within 5-8 ffet of a person causes your guy to bounce all over the place not ot mention if your inj cover and they push against u they will pop u out of cover. prone people look like corpses till they shoot u and most the time half there body is underground and the other half is inside a wall. the scope flares look like people are shining a 3 million candlepower spotlight right at you. why do game companies think all u have to do is make something shiny and sparkly and people will buy it? are the masses just that dumb?

 

[draphius]

btw they still havent put in real recoil on people its just a visual effect, so if u have a quick trigger finger but someone else is slower but more accurate u will still get screwed. srsly how can u aim when im pumping 600 rounds a min into your chest from 15 feet away?

 

[draphius]

And the browser launcher is just a shitty joke right? its gotta be a joke cause thats the cheapest laziest thing ive seen a dev do

 

[Maximus_Delta]

I've played and have some reservations. Really don't like the browser loader... none of the game preloads and its just slow and clunky. Worse is the fact you can't change your solider name. I have my full name as my Origin ID, who on earth would want to play with their account name as their soldier name if you have done anything similar... graphics, better but not mindblowing, gameplay, some aspects better, some worse that BF2BC. Very little destructable environment, more just blowing chips off stuff. It's a good game, don't get me wrong, but I think they need to really sort out the browser loader / origin account name as soldier name and give it 2-3 months of patching for all the bugs to be worked out.

 

[clonazepam]

[citation][nom]Maximus_Delta[/nom]I've played and have some reservations. Really don't like the browser loader... none of the game preloads and its just slow and clunky. Worse is the fact you can't change your solider name. I have my full name as my Origin ID, who on earth would want to play with their account name as their soldier name if you have done anything similar... graphics, better but not mindblowing, gameplay, some aspects better, some worse that BF2BC. Very little destructable environment, more just blowing chips off stuff. It's a good game, don't get me wrong, but I think they need to really sort out the browser loader / origin account name as soldier name and give it 2-3 months of patching for all the bugs to be worked out.[/citation]

Ouch. Did Crysis 2 do the same thing by having the username you use to log into your account appear as the in-game handle? I haven't loaded it up in awhile. Can't remember.

 

[trak74]

[citation][nom]bman223[/nom]i'm very disappointed to hear your comments about the sniper, my favorite class in BF2 - maybe i wont switch to BF3 afterall. IN BF2, being killed by machine gun fire way across the map for a sniper is riduculas and hoped EA would have fixed that in BF3 - the sniper needs some advantage at distance.[/citation]

completely and utterly untrue, as an avid user of the machine gun with bipod, i can say that sniper are pretty much all that kills me (along with knifes from behind hehe)

 

[clonazepam]

Never mind, Crysis 2 appears to be the same way... Did Valve just spoil us by allowing us to have a handle separate to the log-in information? The answer's no. It should just be that way. I'm surprised I didn't notice that playing Crysis 2, but that was a different situation then, that log-in didn't have anything to do with Origin as I don't believe it existed yet, and now the implications are quite different.

 

[smashley]

Loving the beta so far, though battlelog is something I'm not crazy about, it has grown on me. I would hope for an option to use either ingame interface or battlelog. BTW, I'm running a GTX 260 with 4GB ram and about 2.83ghz quad core and everything runs beautifully. Not exactly on Ultra, but still looks great IMHO. Can't wait to play with some vehicles.

 

[Maximus_Delta]

[citation][nom]clonazepam[/nom]Ouch. Did Crysis 2 do the same thing by having the username you use to log into your account appear as the in-game handle? I haven't loaded it up in awhile. Can't remember.[/citation]

No idea, I setup my Origin account specifically for BF3 and was not told at any stage my Account Name would be there as my unchangable gamer tag. I can't get through to anyone on EA Help Live Chat either (assume not the only one who has an issue) but they better change it as I'm simply not willing to play using my actual real life identify for all to see.

 

[clonazepam]

I logged into Crysis 2 and checked. Basically, at the time, I created a user account for crysis 2 multiplayer. Later, when EA created Origin, they had notified me that Crysis 2 login, would then be "swallowed up" by Origin. So now my crysis 2 handle/login, is now my whole Origin account login. It's not as bad as using my real name, but it is still half the puzzle already solved, so to speak, to hijack an Origin account.

 

[trak74]

the worst part about the service is load times to get into the game and some people literally just cant get in, they get stuck in "connecting..." when connecting to the server

 

[Maximus_Delta]

But seriously why is it this way... in BF2BC you could create hundreds of soldiers and then EA would insist on keeping that all, undeletable, as "personas" in your EA profile. Now I have Origin and it's suddenly not possible to setup a gaming Alias... This is all just getting in the too hard box with EA and Dice trying to get too clever and screwing up the basics. Can see so many problems with this from being forced to use either your real name or an alias you spent 2 seconds thinking about at Origin sign-up to hackers being able to get full listings of live accounts from battelog.

 

[clonazepam]

hmmm well its 9/29 somewhere now, i want to peak at it, given this new information thanks to Maximus_Delta. I will have to tread carefully now that I am spooked. aaahhhh sometimes ignorance is bliss and sometimes it kills you.

Edit: I am now more worried about compromising my SW:TOR game. The pre-order is already established now in my origin account. Jerk gets my origin login id now, TOR releases down the road... it'll have its own unique character names seperate to the login, but once that chain's been made, it could be hard to cut.

 

[draphius]

hmm the funny thing for me is my bfbc2 alias rolled over to this game and thats on steam.... so no idea how thats my alias but atleast its not my account name cause that is just all kinds of wrong for security reasons

 

[apexle]

I'm running an i5-2500K OC to 4.4Ghz, DDR 1600 8GB @ 8-8-8-24, and GTX 460 Talon Attack in SLI, think this would get 60+ fps at 1920x1200 res? I'm thinking I may not be able to max out the AA but perhaps x8 maybe?

 

[trak74]

[citation][nom]apexle[/nom]I'm running an i5-2500K OC to 4.4Ghz, DDR 1600 8GB @ 8-8-8-24, and GTX 460 Talon Attack in SLI, think this would get 60+ fps at 1920x1200 res? I'm thinking I may not be able to max out the AA but perhaps x8 maybe?[/citation]
Id say so, yes, if not, maybe just need a new gfx card.

 

[apexle]

So is the beta available at 12:00AM? What time zone? I'm assuming it'll be available at 12AM in PST (or at the least since on the east coast it'll already be 3AM). Is anyone able to download the open beta yet?

 

[trak74]

[citation][nom]apexle[/nom]So is the beta available at 12:00AM? What time zone? I'm assuming it'll be available at 12AM in PST (or at the least since on the east coast it'll already be 3AM). Is anyone able to download the open beta yet?[/citation]
iv already played open beta for 8-10 hours, was available 18 hours ago for me

 

[aznguy0028]

[citation][nom]dconnors[/nom]Why make that push if you're already getting over 60 fps?-Devin Connors, Tom's Hardware[/citation]
It's because particle effects such as smoke around the stages drops it down sub 60 at times when you're in the middle of it. I don't think that would be an issue if the fps was over 100 to compensate.