Blizzard Sues StarCraft II Hackers

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Wow so many people actualy read the entire article and just start bitching.

May i renote some key points here.

- Blizzard does not sue the people that used the hack's they just got banned, and that is ok and should stay so.

-Blizzard is sueing the people that made the hacks, but not because they made them but because they decided to profit from software that breaks the game.

-I'm pretty sure they analized the hacks a fair deal before stating any damage claims and i also remember that hacks need to load game content into memory to emulate false data in order for the hacks to occur. Since they load without permission original content to create a middleman software that outputs the hacked data they are right to claim what they did.

-May i remind you that hacking and the creation of exploits are illegal and has bine since forever, doing it for profit makes it even worse.The act itself is not the crime the fact that you did it without consent is.


To make it more understanding: Just because you can pick a lock or crack a safe doesen't mean ur a criminal, but if you actualy do it and steal something (as in profit from it) then its obviously criminal.

I hope for some this is clear enough.
 
[citation][nom]x3style[/nom]-Blizzard is sueing the people that made the hacks, but not because they made them but because they decided to profit from software that breaks the game.[/citation]

And why don't they sue themselves for using battle.net if breaking the game is a cause for suing?
 
Cheating in an environment like SC2, D2, or WoW is basically the same thing as corruption in a government. it should not be taken lightly when millions of people are dependent each others understanding for fair play.
I say: Take their homes, their cars and their lives away. Make a statement to the rest of those who cannot understand something simple as fair play.
 
[citation][nom]wernstar[/nom]Cheating in an environment like SC2, D2, or WoW is basically the same thing as corruption in a government. it should not be taken lightly when millions of people are dependent each others understanding for fair play.I say: Take their homes, their cars and their lives away. Make a statement to the rest of those who cannot understand something simple as fair play.[/citation]

You're mixing up law and ethics? corruption is morally and legally wrong, cheating is at worst morally wrong, and depending on the stakes even morally right.
 
[citation][nom]kelemvor4[/nom]These guys weren't selling blizzard's IP, they were selling their own original code (I assume) and thus are entitled to make money selling it if they so choose.These laws aren't in place to prevent this, they're in place to prevent folks from selling other people's copyrighted works as their own.In other news, Honda is planning to sue Larry's muffler shop for selling add on mufflers for the accord sedan... The whole premise of this lawsuit is ridiculous.[/citation]
So..lets say a lot of people get that muffler. The muffler is more quiet and gives an extra 15hp. But, in turn, fuel efficiency goes down, and causes bcak fires which causes knocks on the engine and in time, the engine on theses Honda's break down. These people don't realize this and blames Honda. They stop buying Hondas and say its a crap product when in turn its the muffler from Larry's shop that did this. See?
 
[citation][nom]r3t4rd[/nom]So..lets say a lot of people get that muffler. The muffler is more quiet and gives an extra 15hp. But, in turn, fuel efficiency goes down, and causes bcak fires which causes knocks on the engine and in time, the engine on theses Honda's break down. These people don't realize this and blames Honda. They stop buying Hondas and say its a crap product when in turn its the muffler from Larry's shop that did this. See?[/citation]
It makes sense from a reputation point of view, but since honda is japanese and everybody knows that japanese cars have superior build quality, nobody will care what someone sais. It's the same with blizzard really. Even if a cheat reduces overall satisfaction with the product people (who don't know activision is running the party now) will keep considering it a high quality product, cause it's blizzard.

Ofc those who know it's truely activision, know quality is a gamble, but those knowing that, also know that cheats are third party and therefore not a blizzard issue in themselves.
 
I find it funny that so many people support Blizzard here, but most people seem to be for free downloading of music and movies. All of which are the property of somebody who made it. Just like Blizzard made SC2. Of course there is a selfish angle here - People want to enjoy SC2 and cheats mess it up. Of course the argument can be made that the theft of music and movies can negatively affect investment in the production of new content as well but the immediate effect is not as pronounced for music/movies as it is for online games. Fundamentally it is the same issue of course. Stealing and damaging property are against the law for a reason.
 
[citation][nom]r3t4rd[/nom]So..lets say a lot of people get that muffler. The muffler is more quiet and gives an extra 15hp. But, in turn, fuel efficiency goes down, and causes bcak fires which causes knocks on the engine and in time, the engine on theses Honda's break down. These people don't realize this and blames Honda. They stop buying Hondas and say its a crap product when in turn its the muffler from Larry's shop that did this. See?[/citation]

i don't get get it. are you saying that people who play with a trainer break there computers and blame blizzard?
 
[citation][nom]The_Trutherizer[/nom]I find it funny that so many people support Blizzard here, but most people seem to be for free downloading of music and movies. All of which are the property of somebody who made it. Just like Blizzard made SC2. Of course there is a selfish angle here - People want to enjoy SC2 and cheats mess it up. Of course the argument can be made that the theft of music and movies can negatively affect investment in the production of new content as well but the immediate effect is not as pronounced for music/movies as it is for online games. Fundamentally it is the same issue of course. Stealing and damaging property are against the law for a reason.[/citation]
You're hacking those movies? No, you downloaded them through piracy though. This was talking about hacking and selling said hacks for a game that went against the user-agreement. It's not the fact that the game 'could' lose value because of hacks, but that 3 users that they tracked down have been creating hacks to modify the game. Blizzard has the right to sue them, and if it becomes successful, less hackers will try to hack SC2.
 
[citation][nom]dalta centauri[/nom]You're hacking those movies? No, you downloaded them through piracy though. This was talking about hacking and selling said hacks for a game that went against the user-agreement. It's not the fact that the game 'could' lose value because of hacks, but that 3 users that they tracked down have been creating hacks to modify the game. Blizzard has the right to sue them, and if it becomes successful, less hackers will try to hack SC2.[/citation]

Everybody has the right to sue anyone. That doesn't mean they've got any chance of winning, merely that they're able to sue.

Blizzard is just pissing on it's customers to generate some free advertisement I'm sure.
 

Yea, and the people who paid for the hacks could sue the actual hackers, because they were banned for using it.
It's easy to sue someone, but to win is harder.
 


Ofcourse. But I sincerely hope Blizzard's case will be discarded before it even begins to cost money for anyone else.
 

So they should stick with banning users who are hacking rather then taking a whack at the source?
 


Yes absolutely.

If they get away with this lawsuit, next thing you know is someone driving a truck thru an apple store to stop them from selling iphones with antenna issues as a design feature.

You have to restrict your actions to what is legally sound.
 
Excellent, glad to see some real tangible action taking place. I expect to see the same treatment in D3, I'm sure this'll set a decent example to at least postpone all the garbage that went (and still is) going on with D2.
 

Wouldn't they rather hit the building producing them, since their the actual source?
:sarcastic:
 
[citation][nom]bildo123[/nom]Excellent, glad to see some real tangible action taking place. I expect to see the same treatment in D3, I'm sure this'll set a decent example to at least postpone all the garbage that went (and still is) going on with D2.[/citation]

Still goes on in d2 because it's legal ; otherwise d2jsp would've been shut down many moons ago no?
 

Because Blizzard is a gaming industry that happens to be world wide. They can still sue anyone outside of America because that person purchased their game. User-end agreements are still laws, so if Blizzard told them not to do what they did, they can still try and sue.
It's like saying, "Oh, their outside of the US so we can't ban them for hacking either..."
 
I'm backing blizzard on this one all the way. One thing i can't stand more then anything when it comes to online gaming is cheaters, it's affected just about every online game out there, and has only gotten worst as more and more poeple are willing to ruin others experiences by cheating and more and more hackers are willing to try and make a profit off of it, not to mention gold farmers/sellers who most likely use hacks of their own to increase their profits as well. All that crap has to go, it's completely unfair for people who want a challenge and play a game way it's meant to be played. I'm not against cheating in single player games, i don't do it myself but i don't care what other people do, but as long as they do not use it in multiplayer experiences i don't care.
 
I'm backing blizzard on this one all the way. One thing i can't stand more then anything when it comes to online gaming is cheaters, it's affected just about every online game out there, and has only gotten worst as more and more poeple are willing to ruin others experiences by cheating and more and more hackers are willing to try and make a profit off of it, not to mention gold farmers/sellers who most likely use hacks of their own to increase their profits as well. All that crap has to go, it's completely unfair for people who want a challenge and play a game way it's meant to be played. I'm not against cheating in single player games, i don't do it myself but i don't care what other people do, but as long as they do not use it in multiplayer experiences i don't care.
 
[citation][nom]curiousgeorgieo[/nom]They should have hired them.[/citation]

POOR LOGIC. Let's hire people with no moral compass and create a wonderful corporate climate with them. Umm, fail.
 


TBH not 100%, but fairly certain duping and item selling are against the EULA etc. Unless there's some funky loop hole in the EULA. What's even more so sad is the people that actually still buy items on b.net...let it go...
 
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