Question Computer won't turn on since upgrading the GPU ?

[DIYPCNewbie]

Hi everyone!

I bought a GeForce RTX 3060 GPU to replace my old GeForce 1650, and any time I connect my 8-pin 6+2 pin to my computer and the PSU, nothing happens. If I leave the power supply connected to the GPU my computer is completely silent, no fans turn on, lights on the motherboard do not turn on, nothing.

After removing the 6+2 pin from the GPU end and turning the computer back on, everything comes on. but my computer only has power and won't load. The white light error light turns on for the computer indicating a issue, and when I reinstall my old GPU the PC starts like normal. My motherboard still works.

The GPU and every other component is seated properly. I also updated my BIOS with the old graphics card after checking whether the B460M PRO-VDH motherboard I have is compatible with the GeForce RTX 3060.

I have a comparison of the two:

https://imgur.com/SGM0nRn

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Pictures of my motherboard:

https://imgur.com/UQJ6YMK

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https://imgur.com/eGq8vse

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https://imgur.com/kQSHPoz

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I would appreciate any help! I'm thinking at this point I either need to buy a different motherboard or upgrade my PSU to a stronger wattage.


Additional pictures-

https://imgur.com/2s3DmXD

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https://imgur.com/a/0bdz4XM

View: https://imgur.com/a/0bdz4XM

 

[Lutfij]

How old is the PSU in your build? Have you tried powering the new GPU with a PSU that's got 650W of power at your entire system's disposal(not just advertised) from a friend or neighbor who owns a reliably built unit?

Speaking of new, is the GPU used? If it was, did you verify if it was working before you purchased it?

I also updated my BIOS with the old graphics card
Did you clear the CMOS after verifying your BIOS was successfully flashed to the latest version? Speaking of BIOS what version are you on at this moment of time?

 

[Misgar]

Additional pictures-

The screw next to the 8-pin power RTX 3060 connector looks suspicious. If the card is second hand, the previous owner may have pulled the cooler off and made a mess of repasting it.

By the sounds of it, the PSU is detecting a short circuit on the 8-way PCIe lead when it's connected to the RTX3060 and OCP (over current protection) in the PSU is kicking in.

The computer won't work if it detects there's no auxiliary +12V power on the RTX3060, so there's no point expecting anything to happen with the 8-way PCIe lead disconnected. That's why you're seeing a white light.

Chances are your RTX3060 is dead. Sorry.

I have a comparison of the two:

Please don't lay your graphics cards down on the brown carpet (at least that's what I think it is). Carpet is one of the worst things for inducing static voltages, which can zap your cards with ESD. Similarly, don't lay the computer case down on the carpet with the side panel removed, exposing the rear of the motherboard to possible ESD damage.

The international companies I worked for spent millions equipping their test labs and manufacturing areas with ESD protection.
https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/electrostatic-discharge-ESD

Of course if you keep your fingers crossed, static damage will never happen, but it's better to play safe. Components damaged by static can work for months or even years after being zapped, before mysteriously dying.

 

[DIYPCNewbie]

Thank you for the responses,
My PSU is from 2017- https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074ZKXM72/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

I tried the two steps and clearing CMOS, the computer is still not working with the new graphics card.

The graphics card is new, never used before.

I'm going to buy a new motherboard, graphics card, and power supply. Thank you for the help.

 

[samermid]

The new GPU may require more power than your current PSU can provide. If your PSU doesn't meet the requirements, you'll need to upgrade to a more powerful one. Some BIOS settings may need to be adjusted to accommodate the new GPU. Reset CMOS: This will clear the BIOS settings to their default values.

 

[Misgar]

The new GPU may require more power than your current PSU can provide.

The spec for the OP's CoolerMaster MasterWatt 650 should be sufficient to power the RTX 3060.
https://play3r.net/reviews/psus/cooler-master-masterwatt-650-650w-power-supply-review/

My RTX 3060 12GB pulls 170W during video rendering sessions, as per the spec in this review, so it's well within the capability of most 650W PSUs.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb.c3682

It's difficult to tell the exact model and year of manufacture from the OP's photo, but the MasterWatt 650 is probably not the "best" 650W unit you can buy. It might also be outside its warranty period.
https://forums.tomshardware.com/threads/cooler-master-masterwatt-650-or-corsair-vs650.3435368/

Some BIOS settings may need to be adjusted to accommodate the new GPU.

Possibly not? The OP is replacing a GeForce 1650 with an RTX 3060, so the BIOS should already be set up for a PCIe card and not the iGPU. At most, there might be a clash with the old drivers, requiring DDU.
https://www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download/

The graphics card is new, never used before.

That's good. This makes it more likely the old MasterWatt 650 is at fault, although it should in theory be able to supply the additional 100W required by the 3060.
https://electronics.stackexchange.c...ull-power-from-both-the-slot-and-the-external

Just to recap:
Your old GeForce 1650 card powered from the PCIe bus works perfectly.
Your new RTX 3060 "crowbars" the MasterWatt 650 when you plug in the PCIe 6+2pin lead.

I know this is highly unlikely, but are you using the correct 8-way lead to power the RTX 3060?
https://superuser.com/questions/849...nce-between-8-pin-eps12v-and-pci-e-connectors

It shouldn't be possible to fit an EPS12V (CPU power) lead into a GPU card (they're keyed differently) and I doubt your 650W PSU has more than one EPS12V output (unlike some more powerful units), but I thought it worth mentioning.

Please don't take offence and think I'm doubting your construction skills. If you use enough brute force, anything is possible.

I have at least one PSU where the EPS12V and PCIe leads are unmarked, so it's wise to check carefully. If one lead splits up into 4+4 and the other into 6+2, I know what they're for.