Can my computer handle a radeon hd 5670 card?

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thethomas

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Hewlett-Packard Company
Model : p7-1044
Processor : AMD Phenom(tm) II X6 1065T Processor 2.90 GHz
RAM : 6.00GB (5.75 usable)
System type : 64 bit operating system

I think i have 250w and I dont really want to upgrade that.
If it helps i think i have a radeon hd 4200 card in right now.
This might be my computer http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/ca/en/ho/WF06b/12454-12454-3329740-64546-64546-5080737-5156939.html

Thank you guys hope I get an answer soon!
If i cant run it I would appreciate some suggestions!
 

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I dont understand why I would need 550w because i saw another thread about this saying you only need 200w, but you would need some other good specs
 

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Im looking at other sources and its saying i can run a different card : Amd Radeon 5570.
Do you guys think I can use this without frying my computer?
 

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I run a HD 5670 in a Dell with a 280w PSU
remember that a HD 5670 only draws 64watts at peak wattage
the HD 5570 would also work but not as powerful as a HD 5670
though really a better choice right now is the HD 6670
it is same wattage as a HD 5670 and about %15 faster
also available in a low profile half height card
be careful if your tower is a slimlime model since you would need a low profile of
half height card
of course a PSU upgrade is always good but you should be fine
if you can open the case and look at spec sheet on PSU
see what the amperage on the 12v+ line is
for running video cards amperage on 12v+ is the most important
I run my HD 5670 on a 16 amp line
 

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Don't see why not.
The card will fit in most cases but you should check inside the case first its pretty easy to get the size from the net and take a look.
The reason I say to check is because sometimes these pre made PC's can come with a big plastic shroud over the CPU which would stop the card fitting. A lot of Dells I have looked at for people have this but I don't know about HP. Never had one open before.

Mactronix :)
 

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I think that's a 130W CPU, 5670 is a 70W card, ~50W for mobo, ~5W for each stick of RAM (it looks like you have 3 sticks for some reason, so you're probably not in dual channel), ~5-10W for a HDD, ~5-10W for each system fan... I don't think 250W will be enough for ANY discrete GPU. You certainly don't need 550W for a 5670, but something like this Antec NEO ECO 400W 80+ would be good.

What is your budget?
 

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Im getting a lot of mixed responses, King Smp is saying i should be fine but hapkido is saying 250w will not be enough
 

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I looked up your CPU, and it's 95W, which is better, but your CPU and GPU would need 160W (assuming they're both at full power, which is how we figure requirements). That would only leave 90W for the rest of your system IF your PSU continuously puts out its rated wattage. I wouldn't chance it.

What's your budget?
 

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it is a 95w CPU
also it is DDR3 so that is why there is three sticks since it runs triple channel
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?docname=c02972447&tmp_track_link=ot_faqs/top_issues/en_ca/c02972447/loc:2&cc=ca&dlc=en&lang=en&lc=en&product=5156937#N155
 

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I dont actually have a budget, I just looked online to find a graphics card that would work with my computer and fit inside it (radeon hd 5570) . I really dont want to upgrade PSU for this card, unless I find out my computer will melt if i try to use it with 250w
 

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specs state that it is ATX form factor PSU
size
Dimensions: 150mm x 140mm x 86mm (5.9 x 5.5 x 3.4 inches)
and really as other posters are saying
you really are better off upgrading PSU to be safe
though I know you dont want to

I did run it through a respected PSU calculator
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp

with your CPU,HD5670,3 sticks DDR3,2 fans,media card reader,10 percent capacitor aging,1 dvdrw
it came out with 237w minimum PSU 287w recommended

so you should be able to run the HD5670/6670
but you are pushing the PSU to its limits
something like a Antec 380w or seasonic 430w PSU is really cheap
and would handle it
 

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i reran the PSU calc with the HD 5570
it says minimum PSU is 220w
recommended is 270w for that setup
 

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You guys seem to be right, I should probably upgrade my power supply. Lastly, is it hard to replace the power supply and are most of them compatible with all towers?
 

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Since you don't have "a budget", get the Antec I linked (installing PSUs is pretty trivial, don't let it discourage you) and this Sapphire 6770. It will cost $145, you get Dirt 3 for free, there's free shipping, and there's $30 worth of mail-in-rebates, so you'll get a little money in the mail long after you've forgotten about it.

5670 is fine, and so is a 5570, but since you'll need a new PSU anyway, upgrade to the 6770. It's considerably faster than those cards and nearly as cheap.
 

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Agreed
since you are upgrading PSU
make the step up to the HD 6770
will last you longer for gaming in the long run
there are some nice corsair builder series for good prices
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&N=100006656&isNodeId=1&Description=builder+series&x=0&y=0
 

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DDR3 does not mean it's triple-channel. I believe RAM channels are determined by the CPU's memory controller and mobo's chipset. Phenom II in a 785G motherboard cannot use triple-channel. It has to be installed in pairs, or it will revert to single-channel.
 
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