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When the printing box appears and states that one or two of the color ink
tanks are low should I change them then or will it tell me when they are out
of ink? Also is there a way to check on the status of the tanks before one
starts to print. I have only been able to see the box when it pops up just
before it prints.
Thanks david
 
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On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:44:05 GMT, "david" <anoname@att.com> wrote:

>When the printing box appears and states that one or two of the color ink
>tanks are low should I change them then or will it tell me when they are out
>of ink? Also is there a way to check on the status of the tanks before one
>starts to print. I have only been able to see the box when it pops up just
>before it prints.
>Thanks david
>



I would definately change it or refill the tank now. You can refill
yourself very economically with high quality matched ink for mere
pennies. The low ink indicator refers to the liquid tank that is
empty. Your sponge is still saturated but its not advisable, IMO to
use it much after the warning.

You will keep getting a warning each time you try printing.

I sure wouldnt print many photos thats for sure. You can bring up the
status check any time by right clicking on the printer device and then
properties.
 
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"beezer" <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 31 Jul 2004 23:44:05 GMT, "david" <anoname@att.com> wrote:
>
> >When the printing box appears and states that one or two of the color ink
> >tanks are low should I change them then or will it tell me when they are
out
> >of ink? Also is there a way to check on the status of the tanks before
one
> >starts to print. I have only been able to see the box when it pops up
just
> >before it prints.
> >Thanks david
> >
>
>
>
> I would definately change it or refill the tank now. You can refill
> yourself very economically with high quality matched ink for mere
> pennies. The low ink indicator refers to the liquid tank that is
> empty. Your sponge is still saturated but its not advisable, IMO to
> use it much after the warning.
>
> You will keep getting a warning each time you try printing.
>
> I sure wouldnt print many photos thats for sure. You can bring up the
> status check any time by right clicking on the printer device and then
> properties.
>
>

Thanks beezer for the quick and helpful reply.
In your reply you said "I could refill very economically with high quality
matched ink for mere pennies" can you elaborate more on were and how I
require the ink?
Also Properties,Maintenance (Start Status Monitor) this will only show the
status of the ink when you start to print and not when just want to just
check it?
Thanks again david
 
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On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 06:29:27 GMT, "david" <anoname@att.com> wrote:

>Thanks beezer for the quick and helpful reply.
>In your reply you said "I could refill very economically with high quality
>matched ink for mere pennies" can you elaborate more on were and how I
>require the ink?
>Also Properties,Maintenance (Start Status Monitor) this will only show the
>status of the ink when you start to print and not when just want to just
>check it?
>Thanks again david



Im sorry, as SleeperMan mentioned, just turn the printer power on and
look at your status monitor.

As far as the ink, I highly suggest using www.alotofthings.com for the
bulk ink and www.inkjetgoodies you can get blank cartridges that are
made for refilling and sealed with a rubber plug. They also have exit
hole caps that clip on as well.


Refilling your genuine cartridges is not hard to do but for the sake
of ease, I would suggest the buying the blank cartridges and avoid any
accidents that you may have since you are not familiar with refilling.

Either way, it will save you a bundle of money and the ink is
fantastically matched. I would guarantee you could not tell a
difference in your photos
 
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I have a Cannon i850 and it seems as though the nozzles are blocked. I
tried using the printer software to clean them many times but without any
luck. I did a head aligment and still it won't print. I can't even get it
to print a nozzle pattern that makes much sense. Anyone have an idea of
what could be the problem?

--
Gayle
 
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On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:28:30 GMT, "Gayle Faraday"
<luvtoso@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Anyone have an idea of
>what could be the problem?

The first thing I would try would be to clean the contacts on the
heads and also clean the mating contacts on the printer. It may be as
simple a thing as the heads not making contact.

Regards,
TR
 
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On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 14:57:45 -0400, TR <fakeaddress@forspammers.com>
wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 18:28:30 GMT, "Gayle Faraday"
><luvtoso@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
>
>>Anyone have an idea of
>>what could be the problem?
>
>The first thing I would try would be to clean the contacts on the
>heads and also clean the mating contacts on the printer. It may be as
>simple a thing as the heads not making contact.
>
>Regards,
>TR


If it does turn out to be clogged nozzles and not the contacts then
try this..

http://216.219.159.185/clean.html
 
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On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 15:25:55 -0400, beezer <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote:

>http://216.219.159.185/clean.html

Great Link! Leanred a lot on that one. I think the most important
thing that link left me with was: "Never, Never, Never keep a
cartridge out of one of these printers for more than a few minutes."

Regards,
TR
 
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beezer typed:

> On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 06:29:27 GMT, "david" <anoname@att.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks beezer for the quick and helpful reply.
>> In your reply you said "I could refill very economically with high
>> quality matched ink for mere pennies" can you elaborate more on were
>> and how I require the ink?
>> Also Properties,Maintenance (Start Status Monitor) this will only
>> show the status of the ink when you start to print and not when just
>> want to just check it?
>> Thanks again david
>
>
>
> Im sorry, as SleeperMan mentioned, just turn the printer power on and
> look at your status monitor.
>
> As far as the ink, I highly suggest using www.alotofthings.com for the
> bulk ink and www.inkjetgoodies you can get blank cartridges that are
> made for refilling and sealed with a rubber plug. They also have exit
> hole caps that clip on as well.
>
>
> Refilling your genuine cartridges is not hard to do but for the sake
> of ease, I would suggest the buying the blank cartridges and avoid any
> accidents that you may have since you are not familiar with refilling.
>
> Either way, it will save you a bundle of money and the ink is
> fantastically matched. I would guarantee you could not tell a
> difference in your photos

Just small comment...
I refill original carts and as supplier of ink told me, i drilled small
(1mm) hole at the top and each time i seal it with electrical tape and it
holds like a blast. Canons is really the easiest to refill - dum easy, i
would say.
 
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On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 19:17:11 +0200, "SleeperMan"
<SleeperMan@too.sleepy> wrote:

>Just small comment...
>I refill original carts and as supplier of ink told me, i drilled small
>(1mm) hole at the top and each time i seal it with electrical tape and it
>holds like a blast. Canons is really the easiest to refill - dum easy, i
>would say.


Very true.. I also refill my genuine cartridges. I drill a hole large
enough to vent as I inject ink. I then seal it with clear good
quality box tape.

You can then squeegie it with your fingers and be assure there are no
air pockets to be seen.

OH, just another point if he is considering refilling originals, save
your old breakoff seals and hold them in place with a rubber band. And
for storage, dont forget to tape over the vent hole as original
cartridges are and or store in a airtight ziplock bag to be sure.
 
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Gee Thanks for the quick reply. Now I'm now sure what you mean when you
refer to the mating contacts. Are these the electrical contacts on the back
of the plastic thing that the heads are in? Somewhere in my manual it
advised not to touch these so I was being very careful not to. What do I
clean these with?
This could be the problem because when I try to print the nozzle pattern it
looks like dots and dashes and streaks of color. If it's worked there are
no signs of letters same thing kind of like dots and dashes. I did wonder
if the software could be corrupt so I did an uninstall and reinstalled it.
Thanks again
Gayle
 
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 01:08:51 GMT, "Gayle Faraday"
<luvtoso@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>What do I clean these with?

I use a lint free rag (a square cut out of an old cotton T-Shirt) and
put some rubbing alcohol on it (not saturating to the point its
dripping, just damp with it) and rub the head contacts and mating
printer side contacts with that, making sure not to touch anything
else. I used this method for years on the HP carts (built in heads)
and the mating contacts on the printer side with success. When I got
this new i960, I cleaned the head contacts and mating printer contacts
on it before even inserting it for the first time just in case.

Now, some have told me not to use alcohol but they can't tell me why.
They use clear bottled water instead.

Keep us advised......

Regards,
TR
 
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 01:08:51 GMT, "Gayle Faraday"
<luvtoso@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>Now I'm now sure what you mean when you
>refer to the mating contacts. Are these the electrical contacts on the back
>of the plastic thing that the heads are in? Somewhere in my manual it
>advised not to touch these so I was being very careful not to.

Sorry, forgot to answer the other part of your question in my last
reply...

Yes, those little contacts on the back of the plastic housing the
heads are in and the contacts on the printer that they would press up
against when installed.

Yes, they say not to touch them but they mean with your fingers
because your natural body oil will get on them and they will not make
good contact then. From my HP days, I leaned that these contacts are
real sensitive about getting contaminated. We have a printer in the
hanger where it is exposed to all kinds of grit and grime and engine
exhaust. It doesn't last more than a week without needing those
contacts cleaned. And we aren't doing any more than printing out
black ink maintenance reports and schedules with it.

I have a friend that still smokes and still smokes around his
computer. He's also always having to clean those contacts more than
normal and I would say it has something to do with his smoking in
close proximity to the printer.

Regards,
TR
 
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Thanks a lot for the information I can't wait to see if it works. I'll be
keeping my fingers crossed.

Gayle
 
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"beezer" <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 1 Aug 2004 19:17:11 +0200, "SleeperMan"
> <SleeperMan@too.sleepy> wrote:
>
> >Just small comment...
> >I refill original carts and as supplier of ink told me, i drilled small
> >(1mm) hole at the top and each time i seal it with electrical tape and it
> >holds like a blast. Canons is really the easiest to refill - dum easy, i
> >would say.
>
>
> Very true.. I also refill my genuine cartridges. I drill a hole large
> enough to vent as I inject ink. I then seal it with clear good
> quality box tape.
>
> You can then squeegie it with your fingers and be assure there are no
> air pockets to be seen.
>
> OH, just another point if he is considering refilling originals, save
> your old breakoff seals and hold them in place with a rubber band. And
> for storage, dont forget to tape over the vent hole as original
> cartridges are and or store in a airtight ziplock bag to be sure.
>
>
>
Thank you beezer and SleeperMan for you replies.
I will order my next ink refill from the web sight beezer suggested and
inkjetgoodies for the blank cartridges.
Thanks again david
 
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On Sun, 01 Aug 2004 21:33:25 -0400, TR <fakeaddress@forspammers.com>
wrote:

>
>Now, some have told me not to use alcohol but they can't tell me why.
>They use clear bottled water instead.
>
>Keep us advised......
>
>Regards,
>TR


The reason would be that alcohol leaves a film and its not the best
cleaner for electronics as it may cause corrosino over time. In this
case, there are no components to corrode but the film will exist.

Given the life and age of these printer, I highly doubt that alcohol
will cause any problems during the printers usefull life.
 
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 06:29:03 -0400, beezer <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote:

>The reason would be that alcohol leaves a film and its not the best
>cleaner for electronics as it may cause corrosino over time. In this
>case, there are no components to corrode but the film will exist.

Okay, got ya'..... Then distilled water (bottled drinking water)
should do the job just fine.

>Given the life and age of these printer, I highly doubt that alcohol
>will cause any problems during the printers usefull life.

Probably not, but the film thing could be of concern although I don't
think it has ever played a factor in my old HP unit which is the one I
did this ritual cleaning to before going with this new i960.

Back to the original reason for doing the cleaning.... With that old
HP-952c, every time it would start doing funny things, leading me to
contact cleaning, I would always get a little coloration (black
mostly) on the cleaning rag after swiping it across the contacts.
That led me to believe that over time, these inkjets do a buildup of
ink "dusting" around the immediate area to the heads. In other words,
with every page printed, you get a infinitesimal amount of "over
spray" so to speak that starts building up with time. Or at least it
seemed so on the HP-952c. Whether it does on other
brands/makes/models I don't know but I did get this discoloration on
the cleaning rag when cleaning the contacts on the HP-952c every 2-3
months of usage.

Regards,
TR
 
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On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 15:11:07 -0400, TR <fakeaddress@forspammers.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Aug 2004 06:29:03 -0400, beezer <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote:
>
>>The reason would be that alcohol leaves a film and its not the best
>>cleaner for electronics as it may cause corrosino over time. In this
>>case, there are no components to corrode but the film will exist.
>
>Okay, got ya'..... Then distilled water (bottled drinking water)
>should do the job just fine.
>
>>Given the life and age of these printer, I highly doubt that alcohol
>>will cause any problems during the printers usefull life.
>
>Probably not, but the film thing could be of concern although I don't
>think it has ever played a factor in my old HP unit which is the one I
>did this ritual cleaning to before going with this new i960.
>
>Back to the original reason for doing the cleaning.... With that old
>HP-952c, every time it would start doing funny things, leading me to
>contact cleaning, I would always get a little coloration (black
>mostly) on the cleaning rag after swiping it across the contacts.
>That led me to believe that over time, these inkjets do a buildup of
>ink "dusting" around the immediate area to the heads. In other words,
>with every page printed, you get a infinitesimal amount of "over
>spray" so to speak that starts building up with time. Or at least it
>seemed so on the HP-952c. Whether it does on other
>brands/makes/models I don't know but I did get this discoloration on
>the cleaning rag when cleaning the contacts on the HP-952c every 2-3
>months of usage.
>
>Regards,
>TR


Ive never cleaned my contacts and never removed the 960 head yet but
when i decide to do a full pressure cleaning for the hell of it, I
will certainly check out the contacts for dirt and let ya know.
 
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I cleaned the contacts on the printer today but it didn't seem to help. The
contacts on the printer are like needles sticking out and a bit difficult to
clean. That are on an angle pointing downward so I just moistened a piece
of knit fabric and rubbed them in a downward motion. The contacts on the
head are flat and were easy to clean. I did try wiping both of them a few
times. I guess the only thing I can do is try ordering the cleaner and see
if that helps. I hate spending the money if it doesn't work. After this I
don't know if I would buy another Cannon printer. The printer is only about
15 months old and has problems. I had an Epson about 4 years and whenever I
had a printing problem I just used the software and cleaned the nozzles and
everything was fine. I really liked the speed of the Cannon but this
problem is a bummer.

--
Gayle
 
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 01:21:03 GMT, "Gayle Faraday"
<luvtoso@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>I cleaned the contacts on the printer today but it didn't seem to help.

Sorry that that was not the problem Gayle. That would have been the
easiest and no cost fix if it had been the root of the problem.

I think maybe next step would be to do the suggestion that Beezer
posted at http://216.219.159.185/clean.html

A little more complicated than cleaning the contacts but another
inexpensive thing to try before getting more involved and spending
more money to try and fix this thing.

Regards,
TR
 
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 01:21:03 GMT, "Gayle Faraday"
<luvtoso@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>I cleaned the contacts on the printer today but it didn't seem to help. The
>contacts on the printer are like needles sticking out and a bit difficult to
>clean. That are on an angle pointing downward so I just moistened a piece
>of knit fabric and rubbed them in a downward motion. The contacts on the
>head are flat and were easy to clean. I did try wiping both of them a few
>times. I guess the only thing I can do is try ordering the cleaner and see
>if that helps. I hate spending the money if it doesn't work. After this I
>don't know if I would buy another Cannon printer. The printer is only about
>15 months old and has problems. I had an Epson about 4 years and whenever I
>had a printing problem I just used the software and cleaned the nozzles and
>everything was fine. I really liked the speed of the Cannon but this
>problem is a bummer.


I am wondering what led up to your trouble. Have you let the unit idle
for long periods? Exactly what was the circumstances between your
last good print and the trouble you had now?

Have you left the unit unplugged?

I have an 850 as well (15 months or so) and I barely use it. Maybe
once a month if its lucky since I got a 960 five months ago. But my
850 still runs like a champ. No signs of clogging and the nozzle
checks print perfectly.

I never manually ran the cleaning utility. It only takes care of
itsself when it needs to.

I was just wondering what your situations was that led up to the
trouble you are having because obviously, I couldnt neglect the
printer more than you by letting it sit idle.
 
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 05:45:05 -0400, beezer <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote:

>Have you left the unit unplugged?

Does that effect something? We have a bit of a problem with
lightning running in where I have my i960. Even though it is plugged
into a UPS, I still unplug everything at the end of the day or during
storms. IOW, the printer is unplugged 12 - 14 hours/day.

Regards,
TR
 
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 08:55:49 -0400, TR <fakeaddress@forspammers.com>
wrote:

>On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 05:45:05 -0400, beezer <beezer@rezeeb.moc> wrote:
>
>>Have you left the unit unplugged?
>
>Does that effect something? We have a bit of a problem with
>lightning running in where I have my i960. Even though it is plugged
>into a UPS, I still unplug everything at the end of the day or during
>storms. IOW, the printer is unplugged 12 - 14 hours/day.
>
>Regards,
>TR


Naw that doesnt bother anything but from what i gather, it does erase
its memory status as far as cleaning. If you notice never ending
cleaning cycles, that would be the reason why.

Of course unplugging it prior to the heads parking is not a good
thing, LOL... who knows what the case may be for the problem printer.
I was just curious and wanted to find out
 
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I never unplug the printer since I use it quite frequently. I put in new
cartridges just recently. They were generics and the first time I was using
them. After putting them in I printed about 60 pages and it was fine. I
had another print job to do and it printed about 5 pages and then the
printer acted up and the print was totally unreadable. It never worked right
since then. Do any of you refill your cartridges or use generics? I could
never afford to buy name brands with the amount of printing I do.
Gayle
 
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On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 01:52:11 GMT, "Gayle Faraday"
<luvtoso@worldnet.att.net> wrote:

>I never unplug the printer since I use it quite frequently. I put in new
>cartridges just recently. They were generics and the first time I was using
>them. After putting them in I printed about 60 pages and it was fine. I
>had another print job to do and it printed about 5 pages and then the
>printer acted up and the print was totally unreadable. It never worked right
>since then. Do any of you refill your cartridges or use generics? I could
>never afford to buy name brands with the amount of printing I do.
>Gayle


see NOW we know the real story.. GENERICS!!!! Now we know the rest of
the story..

Yes, I bet 99.9% that the generics you used is what clogged the print
head. I been using bulk refill ink from a reputable source. Its the
best bulk ink and very economical. (about 3 dollars to refill all
colors)

I would definately use the cleaning method that I posted. You do not
need anything special, just a syringe and tubing or even a straw
fitted to it to enclose the head intake as shown.

Im sure after that, you will have no trouble. Use ink from reputable
sources and you will never have trouble again.
 
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