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"wayne" <komon@dgdg.sss> wrote in message
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> nope the "computer is made up of several components MS allows you to
> change these components but they all connect to the motherboard. That is
> the one component that you cannot change with an OEM license. You keep
> mentioning "generic"
>
> There is no such thing.
Horsepucky. I have three of them.
> Certain large companies purchase a license from Microsoft to install XP on
> their computers. They can if they choose tie that copy to their hardware.
> All other versions are OEM and are supposed to be sold as part of a system
Not in Spain. I have bought three without any hardware at all. I installed
one on an old Pent III HP.
>
> Perhaps this from the Microsoft web site will help to explain.
>
> I am pulling this from the system builder site
Again, I am not a system builder.
In Spain, you would be hard pressed to find a full retail copy of either
Home or XP Pro. Need urls?
Alias
>
> Generally, you may upgrade or replace all of the hardware components on
> your customer's computer and the end user may maintain the license for the
> original Microsoft® OEM operating system software, with the exception of
> an upgrade or replacement of the motherboard.
> An upgrade of the motherboard is considered to result in a "new personal
> computer" to which Microsoft® OEM operating system software cannot be
> transferred from another computer. If the motherboard is upgraded or
> replaced, for reasons other than a defect, then a new computer has been
> created and the license of new operating system software is required.
> If the motherboard is replaced because it is defective, you do NOT need to
> acquire a new operating system license for the PC.
> The reason for this licensing rule primarily relates to the end-user
> license agreement (EULA) and the support of the software covered by that
> EULA. The EULA is a set of usage rights granted to the end-user by the PC
> manufacturer and relates only to rights for that software as installed on
> that particular PC. The System Builder is required to support the software
> on that individual PC. Understanding that end users, over time, upgrade
> their PC with different components, Microsoft needed to have one base
> component "left standing" that would still define that original PC. Since
> the motherboard contains the CPU and is the "heart and soul" of the PC,
> when the motherboard is replaced (for reasons other than defect) a new PC
> is essentially created. The original System Builder, therefore, can not be
> expected to support this new PC that they in effect, did not manufacture.
>
> OEM copies for "retail " sale by themselve are pirated. they are supposed
> to be sold with hardware IE a system
>
> License Types
> Microsoft offers four ways for partners to acquire licenses: Volume
> Licensing for organizations, original equipment manufacturers, independent
> software vendors, and Full Packaged Product.
> a.. Volume Licensing for Organizations
> Volume Licensing programs offers substantial cost savings to customers
> purchasing five or more licenses.
> b.. Independent Software Vendors
> Independent software vendors (ISVs) allow companies that develop software
> solutions to embed Microsoft software with their own applications to
> create and sell complete, integrated solutions.
> c.. Original Equipment Manufacturers
> Products licensed through an original equipment manufacturer (OEM), such
> as Microsoft Windows operating systems, come installed when your partners
> purchase a new computer.
> d.. Full Packaged Product (Retail)
> Full Packaged Product (FPP) refers to shrink-wrapped boxes of licensed
> product that your partners can purchase in a local retail store or from
> any local software retailer.
>
> Because Volume Licensing offers business opportunities for you to pass
> savings and value along to your customers, the Microsoft for Partners
> program and website focuses primarily on Volume Licensing programs.
> Volume Licensing Overview
> How Can Volume Licensing Help Build Your Business?
> Microsoft's licensing programs reduce the cost of software acquisition,
> software licensing management, and technology development for your
> customers. The various programs are customized for different business
> types, such as corporate versus academic, and offer programs for different
> business needs, such as small business perpetual versus non-perpetual
> licenses.
> Plus, with the added benefit of Software Assurance at each level of the
> Volume Licensing programs, your customers can gain improved:
> a.. Productivity: Acquire the latest software automatically, spread
> payments annually, and extend the workplace to the home.
> b.. Support: Access resources that help keep business systems running
> smoothly.
> c.. Tools: Deploy software efficiently, monitor errors, and access
> Microsoft Windows -based source code.
> d.. Training: Bring employees up to speed quickly on new products and
> keep IT staff up-to-date on the latest technical information.
> All Licensing Programs
> Use the following table to find the licensing programs and resources that
> are right for your clients.
> Volume Licensing Programs
> Microsoft Software License Type Customer Size Customer Type
> Customer Profile
> Software Assurance Available with all license types Five or
> more PCs Corporate, academic, charity, government Designed for use with
> all licenses, Software Assurance gives customers automatic access to new
> technology and provides productivity benefits, support, tools, and
> training to help deploy and use software efficiently.
> Software Advisor Available with Open License Value Five to 250
> PCs Corporate, government As a Microsoft Software Advisor your
> organization will be rewarded for its assistance to small and medium
> business customers ("End User Customers") in assessing Microsoft
> technology and acquiring Microsoft Open License Value Software.
> Open License 6.0 Open Business
> Open Volume Open Value *
> Multi Year Open**
> Open Subscription Licensing (OSL) ** Five or more PCs
> Corporate, academic, charity, government Designed for customers who desire
> an easy, one-time transaction process with the flexibility of acquiring
> licenses from a broad reseller channel, with the ability to spread
> payments annually.
> Select License 6.0 Company-wide Option 250 or more PCs
> Corporate, academic, charity, government Designed for medium, large, and
> multinational organizations with mixed Microsoft license requirements,
> decentralized purchasing, and the ability to forecast purchases.
> Enterprise Agreement 6.0 Enterprise Agreement
> Enterprise Subscription Agreement 250 or more PCs Corporate
> Designed for medium, large, and multinational companies that are
> interested in standardizing their enterprise and value the benefits of
> centralized purchasing.
> Academic Licensing All license types No minimum Academic
> institutions of various sizes Four Volume Licensing solutions that are
> designed to meet the specific needs of education institutions.
>
>
> Independent Software Vendor Program
> Microsoft Software License Type Customer Size Customer Type Customer
> Profile
> ISV Royalty Licensing Embedded License No Minimum Corporate
> and Academic The Microsoft ISV Royalty License Agreement is a Microsoft
> licensing program intended for Independent Software Vendors (ISVs) who
> wish to distribute Microsoft software along with their commercial business
> applications.
>
>
> Original Equipment Manufacturer (OEM) Program
> Microsoft Software License Type Customer Size Customer Type Customer
> Profile
> System Builder N/A No minimum Corporate Designed for system
> builders who want to install OEM-licensed software on their systems.
>
>
> Retail
> Microsoft Software License Type Customer Size Customer Type Customer
> Profile
> Full Packaged Product No minimum Consumers Designed for
> single-application Microsoft buyers.
>
>
> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
> news:O217CEVbFHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "wayne" <komon@dgdg.sss> wrote in message
>> news:SaCdnfGbrI8TRTXfRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
>>> This is from Microsoft about OEM licenses
>>>
>>> The End User License Agreement (EULA) for OEM software, including
>>> Windows XP, states that the software is licensed as a single integrated
>>> product in connection with the hardware. However, it's important to
>>> remember that the end user cannot see nor accept the electronic EULA
>>> until the software is installed on a fully-assembled computer system.
>>> So, even though the original OEM software unit may have been distributed
>>> with a component, like a hard drive, it isn't until the software is
>>> installed on a fully-assembled computer system that it becomes "married"
>>> to the hardware.
>>>
>>> In general, OEM software may not be transferred from one system to
>>> another system. However, the computer system can certainly be updated
>>> with new components without the requirement of a new software license.
>>> The only exception to this is the motherboard 1. If the motherboard is
>>> replaced 2, the computer system is deemed "new" and a new license would
>>> be required. Other PC components may be upgraded, including a hard
>>> drive. Though if the hard drive 3 is replaced/upgraded, the operating
>>> system must first be removed from the old hard drive. To restate: the
>>> operating system is "married" to the computer system on which it is
>>> originally installed.
>>>
>>> If you haven't already, please take a moment to review a comprehensive
>>> group of OEM Licensing Questions and Answers which are specific to
>>> system builders:
>>> https://oem.microsoft.com/worldwide/514341.asp.
>>>
>>> Wayne
>>
>> What's that got to do with a person buying a *generic* OEM? My EULAs
>> don't say "motherboard" in Spanish or English. They both say "hardware"
>> and "computer" only. I am not a "system builder". With the way
>> electronics goes today, a motherboard bought a year ago is out of date.
>> For example, I have one sitting over there that will not take a graphic
>> AGP 8x card, only 4x. Try to get a 4x graphic card nowadays. If one
>> upgrades one's motherboard, it's still the same computer, now isn't it?
>>
>> Alias
>>>
>>> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
>>> news:eCFUznNbFHA.3132@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>
>>>> "wayne" <komon@dgdg.sss> wrote in message
>>>> news:8MWdnVMQ6O5lNjrfRVn-2g@comcast.com...
>>>>> no she probably can't register if it was an OEM copy the license is
>>>>> tied
>>>>> to the motherboard that is one of the reasons why OEM is cheaper
>>>>>
>>>>> Wayne
>>>>
>>>> Generic OEMs are NOT tied to the motherboard.
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "Alias" <aka@[notme]maskedandanonymous.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:uwCUlrJbFHA.2420@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Ah the five second activation joys! Man, this is going to be a real
>>>>>> PR
>>>>>> headache for MS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> LOL!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Norm, you will have to use the phone in activation method.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Norm" <Norm@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:C38645E9-F7C8-4BB7-9E65-12D7CE51C986@microsoft.com...
>>>>>>> This is on my daughters Computer but it refuses to let her
>>>>>>> re-register.
>>>>>>> Should she de-register first? and how does she do that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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