China Moves Toward One CPU Architecture to Rule Them All

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[citation][nom]Fierce Guppy[/nom]No... not really, which is why you couldn't come up with anything more recent, like within the last 500 years. Inventions are NEVER EVER plentiful in cultures where collective conformity is valued over individual enterprise which has long been the case in China and, coincidently, is why you'd be hard pressed to find any invention coming out of an Islamic country, too. Well, you know... aside from the self-detonating kiddie.[/citation]

You have a good point here of course. The 'inventiveness' of a society is like the Tides. As political systems change people may become less motivated to do research.
Look at other powerful nations of the past. The library of Alexandria...Egypt, Greek empire etc. They had, for their time, modern nations; than it all went to ruins.

The USA uses countless European inventions.
You drive your car (German invention) with a Gasoline (German) or Diesel engine (German/French) on a concrete (Italian) Highway(German).
Use a computer (British logic) with some wireless device (Marconi, Italy) etc. pp.

Yes, First Japan, then China took 'our' western inventions, first shamelessly copied them, than made them better.

The US has in the past done the exact same thing. take an existing foreign invention, improve it and then claim it to be theirs (Rockets and Engineers taken from Penemuende is what got us to the moon but the movie Apollo 13 conveniently forgot to mention that).


 
Ah ... Josh Whedon predicted in his show firefly that we would all be speaking Chinese one day, who know. PS FireFly was a great show can't believe it was canceled after 14 episodes.
 
Let see an order for 1 Billion CPU's, who wouldn't jump on that, I know they would have to include set instruction to keylog everyone but its ok, and imagine if they want to have same cpu running thier smartphones.
 
meh china already has all of apples manufacturing done there, they practically own apple except for the corporate office. they should just take over apples A processors.
 
This is a great example of how communism fails. They should take their lesson from Russia. Many of us older farts remember when they were releasing their clones of the Apple II
 
[citation][nom]K2N hater[/nom]Regardless of the architecture most CPU power is wasted due to poorly optimized compilers, linkers and OS layers. That also explains the fact ARM isn't any better than X86 in real world despite its superior instruction set.[/citation]

How is ARM a superior ISA over X86? ARM is just a more simple ISA. Besides, X86 CPUs are all RISC instead of CISC when you really look into them. They decode complex X86 (CISC) instructions into varying simpler RISC (ARM is a RISC ISA too) instructions before executing them.

 

LOL i remember doing atomic bomb drills in school.
 
Too many educated people in china for communism too work.Hmmmm if im a Chinese doctor should I make the same wages as a homeless man in the U.S,or move to the U.S and drive a Ferrari. Or should I make a cpu for china or go work for intell an get mad swag.....Hmmmmm such a hard decision.
 
[citation][nom]xerroz[/nom]Smart move. This would strengthen the Chinese's economy and keep billions and billions of Yuan from getting out of the country and instead, keep the money within their borders to improve their nation.Gotta hand it to the Chinese, they're very smart when it comes to their future and development. Unlike a certain already developed nation, they don't let entire industries move overseas to other countries where millions of jobs are created and where interests are more on the basis of becoming highly developed - to grow as a nation as a whole - instead of filling the pockets of giant corporations who are allowed to get around tax loopholes thus denying their own people of tax money and millions of jobs. Decades from now the Chinese will be the top superpower and the people from the nation that used to be on top will be wondering why and only then will they realize their mistake. They won't realize right now when the tide can still be turned.[/citation]

They also have no value for the human element, conditions, wages, etc.
They are the opposite extreme of what is going on in that "certain already developed"nation.

That other developed country forces business out of its borders while china forces it in. The only difference is one is done by an economic drive created by regulation, the other is direct regulation. Do gotta give this to the chinese: They dont hide the fact they are going to screw you. They do in fact come right out and say it.


 
[citation][nom]brickman[/nom]You really know you are communist when everyone has the same CPU.Anyone caught overclocking the communist CPU will be immediately executed.[/citation]
Communism doesn't kill people, Fascist dictators do.... Learn the meaning of the political system before you bash it like the rest of these "Amerrrkins"...
 
[citation][nom]sixpac502[/nom]Too many educated people in china for communism too work.Hmmmm if im a Chinese doctor should I make the same wages as a homeless man in the U.S,or move to the U.S and drive a Ferrari. Or should I make a cpu for china or go work for intell an get mad swag.....Hmmmmm such a hard decision.[/citation]

Neither has Communism done anything for the uneducated. We usually hear about China's flash cities such as Shanghai and Beijing, but in rural areas many people are illiterate and remain very poor. If it weren't for that authoritarian hedonistic work-shy piece of excrement turning mainland China into a massive poverty trap, (Oh, yeah. Mao Zedong was its name.), China could have become the number one economic superpower decades ago. It would also be a good ally just like Japan.

Go work for AMD and show them how to make a CPU that will give Intel the cold shivers for a change. Then go to China and drive around in your Ferrari. Just don't do it in the rural areas. That might look a weeeee bit ostentatious. 🙂
 
Isnt a lot of computer hardware already manufactured in Taiwan and China already?

If China made and designed their own, they could do something like imbed spy firmware in their chips and software and motherboards.
 
[citation][nom]ceh4702[/nom]Isnt a lot of computer hardware already manufactured in Taiwan and China already?If China made and designed their own, they could do something like imbed spy firmware in their chips and software and motherboards.[/citation]

Any chip designer/manufacturer could do that. That China's government wants to be more involved in their country's technological development does not mean that they suddenly become the only group capable of this.
 
[citation][nom]freggo[/nom]Yeah, and the western world does not do that.Fireworks, Gunpowder, Pasta, Paper, Printing, your Compass to name a few are all courtesy of China.[/citation]

Anthing within the last 500 years?
 
[citation][nom]maniac62[/nom]No, you are completely distorting the truth. Almost every year, US government imposes anti-dumping or other huge trade tariffs on Chinese products without any backing evidence.Last year, USA government blocks Huawei from bidding Nation LTE network by claiming Huawei has internal relation with PLA. Using the same logic, China should stops buying all Boeing products because Boeing is producing F-15 and F-18 for the US air force.The US government is the one that keeps violating the principles of free market, and I don't understand why the American people have the moral superiority to blame China.[/citation]
I would not blame US government blocks Huawei because of national security risk. The nature of Boeing and Nation LTE network are very different. No large Chinese companies are not owned by or have close relationship (non-business) with CCP. They can bow to CCP with no hesitation. Amongst the activist and opposition parties in HK, it is a commonsense to stay away from the network owned by Chinese company to minimize the chance of the calls being tapped.
 
[citation][nom]sortinoss[/nom](American here)People,We don't know what this means, it's never happen before. Did anyone here want Intel and AMD to put half ass GPUs into their CPUs? Why did that happen? Intel has a monopoly and dictates how things will happen. If this chip coming out of China will lessen the Wintel Monopoly I'm all for it.[/citation]
The problem is the chip from China could be the chip bought from Intel/AMD and get some worker to sand off the label and put its own label.
I am joking, the similar thing did happen. The chip involved was Motorola one.

 
[citation][nom]hiryu[/nom]The problem is the chip from China could be the chip bought from Intel/AMD and get some worker to sand off the label and put its own label.I am joking, the similar thing did happen. The chip involved was Motorola one.[/citation]
[citation][nom]hiryu[/nom]The problem is the chip from China could be the chip bought from Intel/AMD and get some worker to sand off the label and put its own label.I am joking, the similar thing did happen. The chip involved was Motorola one.[/citation]
Should read...
I am not joking
 
[citation][nom]hiryu[/nom]Should read...I am not joking[/citation]

You can edit a post here. Click the read on the forum button at the top of the comments, scroll down to your comment, click edit, and I think you know the rest.
 
[citation][nom]brickman[/nom]You really know you are communist when everyone has the same CPU.Anyone caught overclocking the communist CPU will be immediately executed.[/citation]
In Soviet Russia, CPU clocks YOU...
 
So, instead of a computer market, the Chinese prefer a CONSOLE market...
That is what they would be doing: Turning all of their computers, effectively, into consoles...
 
[citation][nom]jacobdrj[/nom]So, instead of a computer market, the Chinese prefer a CONSOLE market...That is what they would be doing: Turning all of their computers, effectively, into consoles...[/citation]

No... Turning their computers into a country specific system is not like turning computers into consoles. They will still have software and all, it will simply be running on different hardware. A computer doesn't need to use an X86 CPU to be a computer.
 
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