China to Challenge Intel at Chipmaking

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THIS IS REALLY A GOOD THING! It is a exciting news! Seems like people here are really afraid of China. Being a Chinese, I am so happy. This Godson is not a COPY of any other CPUs. Someone even said they won’t put the chip into their computers, LOL, who cares about you? China is already the biggest market in the world. This is enough to beat all the other CPU manufacturers.

Sure there is still a long way to catch up the latest CPU technology, but it’s a good start and it’s been going really well. GO CHINA !
 
[citation] There is no Chinese patent office in China. [/citation]

You're wrong, last time I checked, Chinese patent office does exist but the protection law there is lax and the way they work is not as effective and efficient like the way in America.
 
American patents should not apply in China.
They are the new world power, and they can do as they like, which is the American way, by the way.
 
[citation][nom]anastacia[/nom][citation] There is no Chinese patent office in China. [/citation]You're wrong, last time I checked, Chinese patent office does exist but the protection law there is lax and the way they work is not as effective and efficient like the way in America. [/citation]


Not only that but what happens when Intel, IBM or AMD feel that China had infringed upon their patents? Do they honestly expect china to fork over millions of dollars in damages or to even alter their designs?

Someone even said they won’t put the chip into their computers, LOL, who cares about you?
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Its a question of quality, bub. I wouldn't trust the chip to play nice with other components nor to run an operating system.

China is already the biggest market in the world. This is enough to beat all the other CPU manufacturers
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Takes more than money to develop a sophisticated CPU. Honestly Intel would have plenty of money do what ever the hell they wanted anyway.

For people living in china this is good news but I am quite sure they will not be able to compete with Intel, AMD or IBM in a GLOBAL market. I would sooner expect nVidia to be a real threat in that respect.

Also, are we getting hot and bothered for nothing? The only thing that mentions any competition is the headline. The fact that china plans to mass market its microprocessors to the world is not stated in this article.
 
[citation][nom]Jay-D[/nom]"Already producing its own automobiles"Have any of you guys actually seen what Chinese automobiles look like? The quality is horrendous, they come from the factory with visible defects on the body, LOL. I thought people were just talking shit about China until I saw pictures of it. In the likely event that they rip-off either AMD or Intel designs, the CPUs could be decent.[/citation]

That is what people were saying when Korean and Japanese car first entered US Market, look at where are they now.
 
China's R&D is full of fraud.

Go google "Hanxin", the digital processing chip which was said to be design by chinese scientist.

Only later to find out that the "Hanxin" chip was a just a motorla chip with the label sanded off and a new label added.
 
Cool, now me and 1.3 billion Chinese people hate Intel. Intel has major PR issues, they treat every one like shit… vendors, potential employees, current employees and customers. Your going down Intel!!!!
 
[citation][nom]Dan LCW[/nom]China's R&D is full of fraud.Go google "Hanxin", the digital processing chip which was said to be design by chinese scientist.Only later to find out that the "Hanxin" chip was a just a motorla chip with the label sanded off and a new label added.[/citation]


blah blah blah............ duh everyone in China knew about this and that guy was later sacked and banned for life, never take part in research anymore. Fraud ? Go and cry me a river ......... DUH.
 
Good I am glad China is doing this, if Intel don't like then tough luck , just keep them out of the Chinese market, what are you gonna do ? cry foul ?

ye , keep panicking.
 
[citation][nom]jaydeejohn[/nom]I think Intel should go to the US government, smash China in this endevor. Trillions of dollars invested instead of billions, and put China away. Now thats not racist, nor is it capitalist, but thats what were saying here.Its not as if China were Intel. Get it? This is more of a political scenario than a capitalist one. Like what was said, "Intel is keeping a close eye". There you go. China in no way is compelled to obey by business laws. Why not sell to China? Learn a few things, find out how this all plays first. This could kill Intel. Youd like that? AMD would be history long before that. Theres reasons why the government does what it does. Its not merely exchanging money, but, as they say, more about doing business, which China has no restraints, nor true responsibilty in a fair, true market [/citation]

You sound as if it's China's fault that American economy is failing. That kind of thinking doesn't help. If you don't first focus on yourself, you can't improve yourself, and nothing will change. Instead, you'd first blame your competitor, which is basically finding excuses for your own failings.

Chinese companies are publicly traded on the open market, not state owned. The government usually buys some shares, but rarely a controlling portion. They did instate policies that helps their business. So you're saying that to be fair, they have to do what we did and tie their businesses' one hand behind their back before sending them out? American government should be supporting our business too, but instead, they're imposing sanctions.

America did not win the Cold War with weapons. In the nuclear age, it's not an option anyway. We bankrupted the Soviets. Conventional military is nothing, economy is everything.
 
Everyone here is missing the point. The most important take-away is that the U.S. is a knowledge/services based economy (by choice). In a nutshell, we design/license more than we manufacture. And that is OK - if the rest of the world upholds the ideas of copyright and subsequent trademark and patent legislation. China doesn't, nor do the 2nd and 3rd world countries that can't and/or won't pay for original works. One can make the argument that the sale price is made comparable to what we pay in the US, but that is a different topic altogether.

So, the US innovates, China copies our designs, makes cheap knock-offs and people either buy the superior and pricey US product or the less expensive and crappier Chinese one. This was the paradigm throughout the 80's, 90's and 00's. That has been the balance that has allowed our superior designs coupled with our superior, albeit expensive manufacturing to sell well both domestically and overseas. Our designs command a higher price, but this will change.

This paradigm is shifting, however; as China becomes better at both design/innovation in addition to improving their ability to MASS produce with quality, the US will be screwed. We put ourselves in this position by becoming the aforementioned knowledge/information-based economy. When you become this type of economy, you better be a) damned sure you are far superior than anyone else at what you design and b) the rest of the world respects your monetary domain/control over your ideas. China doesn't.

The end result is that China can be a great ally if we can continue to innovate at a superior level, on many fronts, not just CPU design. In simpler terms, we continue down our path of becoming white-collar workers exclusively and we outsource all blue-collar work to China.

Unfortunately, China wants to be white-collar too :) And who can blame them? They don't want to be exploited for dirt-cheap labor forever. Anyway, without getting too long-winded (too late 😛), China is growing up fast as an economic power - it was inevitable given their significant human and natural resources. Russia will be next...
 
Look here

To those who keep making ridiculous slanderous accusation.

If the Godson tech was copied from Intel like people accuse then why the Hell does it have to take so many years to bring it out ? Can't it just take a year or even months ?

Please people , before making silly accusation, at least make some judgement and reasoning.
 
Ahh,crap.

I thought they were gonna make "good chips" screw Intel's patents,they can rip off as much stuff as they want,as long as it brings competetion,tbh.
 
@scurvywombat

Is it better to risk your life resisting tyranny, or to just take the path of least resistance and let the fascists have their way? (Your response makes it abundantly clear what YOU would do) Plenty of countries have shown the capability of having a political revolution on some level, whether violent or peaceful. From Zimbabwe to the USSR to the US, people have shown the courage to stand up to fascism in their own backyard, China, on the other hand, has not.
 
ffs , how many times does this need to be repeated, China is developing this chip for China , not for overseas market, China wants to be technologically independent, something for China's own market. Is it really hard to understand ?
 
You're right one shot it is more nationalism.. But your racism needs some work.. Racism can be any race hating on another race. They don't need to live far east or asia...

Who cares about china getting into the market good for them. Its not like you're gonna eat their chips anyways lol.
 
This is ridiculous, why do you all keep feeling threatened and saying there is no way this will compete with intel, but these people are not trying to play crysis, the fact is they need a simple cheap cpu so the country is not dependant on the US for processors.
 
I would say the next logical step actually would be to produce chips that had the performance to merit multiple cores. forgive spelling.
 
"lots of racism in here.. WOW..! competition can only make things better for us...cheaper processor price, better processor... "

And I suppose you are under the impression that China is an open and fair market to the outside world. The government subsidizes the cost of oil (making it cheaper for internal companies to compete cost-wise); several large industries such as steel are also subsidized, and imported products face tariffs and other restrictions. There are also significantly different approaches to labor 'laws' such as wages, age and human rights that impact competitiveness. Then consider safety standards, environmental standards, questionable compliance with copyright and patent standards and ask yourself is China really operating on a level playing field with the rest of the industrialized nations?

Competition and open trade makes things better when it is indeed OPEN and FAIR - neither is the case the way the Chinese government currently operates... this is not racism.
 
settle down guys...no need to be worried.
just invade an unsuspecting smaller country and take their oil...that'll make you feel better about yourself 😉
 
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