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[Pierce2623]

I only tested once at the intel default setting at 0x129, yea we all know something is wrong, but that is what INTEL said it should run at for that particular 14900k, which can do all those compression test, pass 30min R23 at the undervolted for 1.2xv all core 5.4 39k mark setting if I undervolt it myself, that is intel who build those VID inside, not me nor the mobo. and what buildzoid have, averaging 1.3x v after his tuning in 0x129, still have transient peaks at 1.55v which cannot be measured by the software monitor, that is what the degradation is. I don't know if it was intel's new code logic doing the initial training making all those crazy voltage or it is CEP kicking in, or let step aside, at 0x125 and 0x129, quite some reported 36k instead of 39k before undervolting, that is still a 8% performance drop.

So, after 2 years, cooporating with the board vendors and enforce their settings, and still I have to dail in all those constrains to get what we saw it should perform in all those reviews with a massive hike from 27k of 12900k to 39k for 14900k, don't you think those who experienced all these should feel distrust in intel and say we would not recommend anything intel in short term?

Anybody saying owners of Raptor Lake should still have full trust in Intel is an unreasonable fanboy shill. I had a 13600k that originally came up completely stable in all tests at 5.6/4.2 all core at 1.32v totally die last year after some slight but noticed voltage degradation to hit the same clocks and I thought I just ran it too hard. Turns out I got screwed.

 

[YSCCC]

Anybody saying owners of Raptor Lake should still have full trust in Intel is an unreasonable fanboy shill. I had a 13600k that originally came up completely stable in all tests at 5.6/4.2 all core at 1.32v totally die last year after some slight but noticed voltage degradation to hit the same clocks and I thought I just ran it too hard. Turns out I got screwed.

Degradation at 1.32v is pretty concerning as they hard cap at 1.55v now with the fix... I believe you set that in Bios, but did you ever try hwinfo and see the peak voltage during say, R23?

 

[TheHerald]

Anybody saying owners of Raptor Lake should still have full trust in Intel is an unreasonable fanboy shill. I had a 13600k that originally came up completely stable in all tests at 5.6/4.2 all core at 1.32v totally die last year after some slight but noticed voltage degradation to hit the same clocks and I thought I just ran it too hard. Turns out I got screwed.

You overclocked a chip and it degraded. That is totally intels fault....oh boy

 

[Pierce2623]

You overclocked a chip and it degraded. That is totally intels fault....oh boy

You idiot, the K series is warrantied for overclocking. I set it to 5.6GHz on an architecture that comes stock with clocks as high as 6.2GHz. Tell me how that should equal a dead chip <Mod Edit>.

 

[TheHerald]

K series isn't warranted for overclocking, overclocking is out of warranty, both for intel and amd. It just has an unlocked multiplier. You can try your luck and see if it can go faster with the stock voltage, but that's about it. Pushing more voltage to the chip is obviously out of warranty and obviously it can lead to degradation.

I have an X ryzen CPU, ("warranted" for overclocking) can I set it to 1.99 volts and 6000 watts and then complain that it degraded? Will it be amds fault?

 

[YSCCC]

K series isn't warranted for overclocking, overclocking is out of warranty, both for intel and amd. It just has an unlocked multiplier. You can try your luck and see if it can go faster with the stock voltage, but that's about it. Pushing more voltage to the chip is obviously out of warranty and obviously it can lead to degradation.

I have an X ryzen CPU, ("warranted" for overclocking) can I set it to 1.99 volts and 6000 watts and then complain that it degraded? Will it be amds fault?

So, 1.32v on a 13600k is overvolted? it's brand new theory

 

[TheHerald]

So, 1.32v on a 13600k is overvolted? it's brand new theory

You are not getting stable 1.32v @ 5.6 on a 13600k. And if you did why on earth would the chip be degrading at that voltage? Just because he said it did? Come on bud...

 

[Pierce2623]

K series isn't warranted for overclocking, overclocking is out of warranty, both for intel and amd. It just has an unlocked multiplier. You can try your luck and see if it can go faster with the stock voltage, but that's about it. Pushing more voltage to the chip is obviously out of warranty and obviously it can lead to degradation.

I have an X ryzen CPU, ("warranted" for overclocking) can I set it to 1.99 volts and 6000 watts and then complain that it degraded? Will it be amds fault?

The motherboards come with MCE enabled that’s overclocking and increased voltage and it IS covered under Intel warranty. They don’t turn down warranties on a K chip because “it’s been overclocked”. You’re literally just making things up.

 

[Pierce2623]

You are not getting stable 1.32v @ 5.6 on a 13600k. And if you did why on earth would the chip be degrading at that voltage? Just because he said it did? Come on bud...

Uhh yeah you can. It’s not even unusual to get 5.6 between 1.3v and 1.35v on a 13600k with a 360 rad. Why are you just blatantly telling lies? The 5.3 clock on the 13600k is purely down to market segmentations not because the binning won’t let it get higher. Alder Lake 12400s EASILY hit 5.3 all core on boards with a clock generator and Raptor Lake significantly raised clocks. It seems maybe you got a poorly binned Raptor Lake chip and just assumed they were all like that. Without the degradation thing, Raptor Lake could’ve gone down as one of Intel’s most performant and best overclocking architectures ever.

 

[TheHerald]

The motherboards come with MCE enabled that’s overclocking and increased voltage and it IS covered under Intel warranty. They don’t turn down warranties on a K chip because “it’s been overclocked”. You’re literally just making things up.

No, MCE isn't overclocking, MCE is a specific asus feature that removes power limits, so it can't come enabled on "motherboards" cause it's an asus feature. It doesn't in fact increase your stock clockspeeds or the voltage. And no, it is not covered by warranty, lol. This is directly from Intel's page.

Of course the same applies to AMD.

Alder Lake 12400s EASILY hit 5.3 all core on boards with a clock generator and Raptor Lake significantly raised clocks. It seems maybe you got a poorly binned Raptor Lake chip and just assumed they were all like that. Without the degradation thing, Raptor Lake could’ve gone down as one of Intel’s most performant and best overclocking architectures ever.

Yeah, 12400 EASILY hits 5.3, lol. Just as easily as yours can hit 5.6, that's why your chip is dead. Cause it was so easy it got bored to death. Bud please.