Collection of Conroe Data. (Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Extreme!)

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The lowend e6300(~$185) appears to loose to the FX60 and FX62 in most apps though not by a lot.

The e6400(~$225) wins or ties against the FX60 and FX62.

The midrange e6600(~$320) beats the FX60 and FX62 pretty soundly in everything, though.
 
noobie question, but im sory but i never was interested in the amd cpu's but hows teh 60 or the 62 version of amd cpu's were they considered very good, or good? ( i always sticked to intels cpu info's , not realy to amd's) what was amd's "champ" before core 2 duo? that is at present ?
 
Yes, the FX-62 is the best AMD CPU.
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I still don't understand why people keep comparing a newer CPU with newer architecture to a 2 or 3 years old CPU and/or architecture. It's pointless.
 
Yes, the FX-62 is the best AMD CPU.
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I still don't understand why people keep comparing a newer CPU with newer architecture to a 2 or 3 years old CPU and/or architecture. It's pointless.
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"People" are not comparing architecture peformance for acedemic reasons.

People are just comparing the best CPUs made by both companies at the moment. Or at least, the best CPUs that will be available from each company by July end.

It is not Intel's fault, or those people's, that AMD still is sitting on a 2-3 year old architecture. And it is not logical to say that people should wait for AMD to release their next architecture to start comparing.

Next year (hopefully), AMD will have K8L, and then people will be comparing it with the Intel CPUs available then, which will be 1 year old by then.

The K8 was always compared to the Netburst architecture, which was already 3 years old by the time K8 was released. Is this "fair"? Prescott was just a core revision.
 
Yes, the FX-62 is the best AMD CPU.
....
I still don't understand why people keep comparing a newer CPU with newer architecture to a 2 or 3 years old CPU and/or architecture. It's pointless.
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"People" are not comparing architecture peformance for acedemic reasons.

People are just comparing the best CPUs made by both companies at the moment. Or at least, the best CPUs that will be available from each company by July end.

It is not Intel's fault, or those people's, that AMD still is sitting on a 2-3 year old architecture. And it is not logical to say that people should wait for AMD to release their next architecture to start comparing.

Next year (hopefully), AMD will have K8L, and then people will be comparing it with the Intel CPUs available then, which will be 1 year old by then.

The K8 was always compared to the Netburst architecture, which was already 3 years old by the time K8 was released. Is this "fair"? Prescott was just a core revision.
 
Yes, the FX-62 is the best AMD CPU.
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I still don't understand why people keep comparing a newer CPU with newer architecture to a 2 or 3 years old CPU and/or architecture. It's pointless.
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It's a typical comment of AMD fanboys in China these months,maybe all over the world.And maybe the same thing for Intel fanboys years ago.But People only care the performance per buck they paid,nobody care about the architecture internal.
 
Retail Conroe :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
E6300:
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E6400:
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The worst thing about the FX series, is the extremely low overclocking potential of them... that and the fact that Intel's 965 is close in terms of performance, but the 965 overclocks pretty good... then Conroe beating the FX while running 400MHz slower, and Conroe having an extreme amount of overclocking potential... while costing a third as much...
 
Wanted to throw this in to help people level up on how the Core 2 lines up against the AMD lineup:

http://www.tbreak.com/reviews/article.php?id=458

tbreak did a 5000+ review, then a Core 2 preview. They just finished a day or two ago the FX-62 review and put the Core 2 Duo data up against it to see how it fairs.

To put this into perspective, the E6600 is at a 400 MHz clock deficit
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Good review. It's so nice to see Conroe laying a beating on the Athlon chips in gaming, as A64's gaming prowess is what put it where it is today. 😛
 
I beleive it is packaged in malaysia. The die being produced in the fabs, get shipped to some packaging facilities, that "assemble" the die on the LGA775 package, also putting the heat spreader, thus making the enscriptions on it...
 
I beleive it is packaged in malaysia. The die being produced in the fabs, get shipped to some packaging facilities, that "assemble" the die on the LGA775 package, also putting the heat spreader, thus making the enscriptions on it...
 
There has been a lot of talk about compairing old tec to new tech and the fact that intels were compaired to "newer" amd tech and stuff like that but I have one thought that I am supprised no one has thought of yet.

Did you ever think that by alternateing the release of each companies "new" tech each company gets the most possible market share? Its simple if you think about it, I mean like the up comming blu ray hd dvd war, both are fighting for the same pie at the same time. However with Intel and AMD, AMD took out a good chunk out of the market and Intel laid back so to speak. Now Intel is comming up and AMD is sitting down a little.

By doing this back and forth top dog thing each company gets a bigger chunk of the market than if they were both equaly good and they had to fight eachother for every chip sale. It catches those people like me who just buy the best that they can afford at the time whoever it may be. Also it always gives the company good reason to fight back with bigger and better tech.

anyway thats my 2 cents
 
Has this been posted before?

Intel Core 2 Duo - Test - BeHardware - Published on June 29, 2006.

Indeed, the Core 2 Duo is an exceptional processor! For example, a simple E6400 at $241 has a level of performances comparable to an Athlon 64 FX-62 at $1031, with a lower power consumption than an Athlon 64 X2 3800+ and with a comfortable Overclocking margin. From the E6600, AMD can no longer compete in terms of performances except in Maya where the FX-62 provides better results.
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Anyhow, Intel doesn´t count on the Core in the long term because it has already announced a new architecture for 2008, Nehalem, and another for 2010, Gesher. While waiting, it is Core that will be available everywhere at the end of July and by looking at performances it would foolish not to take advantage of it!
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My apologies if this has been posted before.
 
There has been a lot of talk about compairing old tec to new tech and the fact that intels were compaired to "newer" amd tech and stuff like that but I have one thought that I am supprised no one has thought of yet.

Did you ever think that by alternateing the release of each companies "new" tech each company gets the most possible market share? Its simple if you think about it, I mean like the up comming blu ray hd dvd war, both are fighting for the same pie at the same time. However with Intel and AMD, AMD took out a good chunk out of the market and Intel laid back so to speak. Now Intel is comming up and AMD is sitting down a little.

By doing this back and forth top dog thing each company gets a bigger chunk of the market than if they were both equaly good and they had to fight eachother for every chip sale. It catches those people like me who just buy the best that they can afford at the time whoever it may be. Also it always gives the company good reason to fight back with bigger and better tech.

anyway thats my 2 cents
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Call it what you will. I know economics, and you've been successfully fooled. You know, illussion? Both companies will return to scale at some point in time, it all depends on who will get the cookie crumbs. I personally, have never purchased AMD product and never will. I prefer for this forum to be kept free from AMD discussion. Good Luck~!



Soon to be: Core 2 Extreme Enthusiast
 
There has been a lot of talk about compairing old tec to new tech and the fact that intels were compaired to "newer" amd tech and stuff like that but I have one thought that I am supprised no one has thought of yet.

Did you ever think that by alternateing the release of each companies "new" tech each company gets the most possible market share? Its simple if you think about it, I mean like the up comming blu ray hd dvd war, both are fighting for the same pie at the same time. However with Intel and AMD, AMD took out a good chunk out of the market and Intel laid back so to speak. Now Intel is comming up and AMD is sitting down a little.

By doing this back and forth top dog thing each company gets a bigger chunk of the market than if they were both equaly good and they had to fight eachother for every chip sale. It catches those people like me who just buy the best that they can afford at the time whoever it may be. Also it always gives the company good reason to fight back with bigger and better tech.

anyway thats my 2 cents
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Call it what you will. I know economics, and you've been successfully fooled. You know, illussion? Both companies will return to scale at some point in time, it all depends on who will get the cookie crumbs. I personally, have never purchased AMD product and never will. I prefer for this forum to be kept free from AMD discussion. Good Luck~!



Soon to be: Core 2 Extreme Enthusiast
I did not want to start and amd discussion, that’s not for this thread, all I was trying to say is it is a smart move for both companies to restrain their competitiveness sometimes. If both companies released a new chip every month just to keep up with or better the other company it would be more expensive for both the consumer and the company. That new $800 chip you just bought will be replaced by newer better things in 30 days AND that $800 chip is now $400 too. Much like what recently happened with ATI and Nvidia. Not to mention by rushing products off the line critical errors could occur and that $800 chip is now worthless in a few months to a year. I doubt that would happen but it is a possibility

However if new chips were being developed every month the tech would advance by leaps and bounds, that is a good thing. Just remember we keep the R and D going by buying products so if they need a few more million to develop new chips guess who they end up getting it from?

You said I have been fooled, please tell me how, I can admit when I am wrong and would appreciate being corrected. I know neither amd nor Intel will sit idle while the other takes over, I’m no economist but I do know how capitalism works.

I know many may think I trying to be pro amd but I’m not. I think brand loyalty, no matter the quality, is ignorant. I have several friends that want me to build them a pc, and I am proud to say that I have refused to build them one until the new Intel chip hits the street because I know It is better than any offering AMD has or will have by the time Intel has their new chip out.

btw I also am soon to be core 2 extreme enthusiast simply because I know it is the best chip to be offered and eagerly await more benchmark and overclocking results
 
thanks for clearing that up Kuff Kuff. i guess i'll get back to the drag of Conroe's Release. lol. man i hate paper launches. anything that can't be bought retail on the day of its release is a paper launch to me. i was thinking i'd have it by my birthday in July, hell no, more like september. i hate it. i quit. :evil:
 
thanks for clearing that up Kuff Kuff. i guess I'll get back to the drag of Conroe's Release. lol. man i hate paper launches. anything that can't be bought retail on the day of its release is a paper launch to me. i was thinking I'd have it by my birthday in July, hell no, more like September. i hate it. i quit. :evil:
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If you want one, you could get one as far back as a month or more ago... eBay and other channels could be used to get your hands on one... It simply takes funds and enough desire and perseverance that those who want them, get them...
And BTW, Intel is not indicating signs of a paper launch, nor are other indicators... actually, they are indicating the exact opposite, the most widely available hard launch in the history of CPU's...
 
thanks for clearing that up Kuff Kuff. i guess I'll get back to the drag of Conroe's Release. lol. man i hate paper launches. anything that can't be bought retail on the day of its release is a paper launch to me. i was thinking I'd have it by my birthday in July, hell no, more like September. i hate it. i quit. :evil:
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If you want one, you could get one as far back as a month or more ago... eBay and other channels could be used to get your hands on one... It simply takes funds and enough desire and perseverance that those who want them, get them...
And BTW, Intel is not indicating signs of a paper launch, nor are other indicators... actually, they are indicating the exact opposite, the most widely available hard launch in the history of CPU's...

I hope that by some rare chance you are right. If u are, then i'll send u a E6600 version at launch date. In fact i'll send you one tonight while I sleep, lol.

So you're saying if ur right, I could buy one retail at a store or online at launch date?
 
Ok, so the big dogs fight over a fan from chip to chip sale and in the end we all win. Same goes for ATI & Nvid. I think that you're doing the right thing by telling all of your friends to hold off till the new plat comes out. It's a wise choice, and a good decision. Intel will hit the market sooner, faster and better. As for being a loyal customer, I have a different understanding. I buy only what I need, and what I need only. The point of it being, I do not buy anything that I don't need.

Core 2 Extreme rocks hard.



PS. the reason I am not buying an AMD chip right now is because I'm gona need the money for RAM a bit later, on second hand two Core 2 EX chips could also come in very handy. It's plain and simple, if you went and have purchased AMD, the trade off is... you could have gone and bought something else. Look here, I'd rather get an Apple Ipod than an AMD.
 
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