Crytek: PC A Generation Ahead of Consoles

[aaron88_7]

I just have this to say about console online gaming. I was an Xbox Live beta tester way back before it went public, at this time you had to be at least 18 but most gamers were in the 20-35 range. The games were crap during beta, but it was still fun because there were no whiny annoying kids, just a lot of adults that enjoy some good gaming action, (even if the game is a bit cheazy).

Then it went public and it all went to hell. I never play online anymore because of it. I'd be more than happy to pay for an adult zone that requires 18+ admission, but until that is offered I'll stick to solo campaigns where I don't have to listen to spoiled little brats over my surround sound system.

Now I've matured and I'm moving towards PC gaming. Consoles are for kids and poor people, PCs are for real gamers. Sorry, that's just the way it is!

 

[gh0st]

This not only hurt us the pc loving gamers that are becoming far and few(forced).This also hurts hardware companies.They don't have any top notch graphics,physics pumping games coming out what do the hardware companies have to boast and brag about?I thought these companies pitched in some cash that helped with development costs so the games would run best on their hardware.(almost free advertisement).

 

[pandemonium_ctp]

[citation][nom]immoral medic[/nom]...Also, for a game to make money, it has to be well made. No one is going to go out and buy a crappy game for $60, but for something like Starcraft II or Diablo III, people will all buy it because they are huge franchises that have enormous reputations for being some of the best games.[/citation]

Partly true, but not entirely. The age has developed into the point of favored relationships with the consumer. A new company is very unlikely to gain attention compared to an old. Sadly, with the case of Blizzard, they attained godlike status (such as that of Apple and Google), that their followers are fanatical and will spend money on their products regardless of how good the product actually is. I'm not saying these companies don't make good products, but there are a lot of things I - as well as anyone else reasonable with their money - will not purchase simply because it's obvious they're being greedy. Such as TRH in WoW...what a huge waste of money. Sure, continue to make great products that the masses enjoy, but really, you already own the market on shares. Don't abuse your hold over people so obviously blatant.

[citation][nom]Belardo[/nom]6 - HDTV... Can't really blame it. Playing a racing or fighting game on a 50~70" screen with awesome sound vs. a typical 22~23" screen from a computer. Of course, dual monitors for some games like WOW simply kills any console.[/citation]

Still amazes me to this day how people don't know how to connect a PC to a big screen TV. All you need is cabling and you're done. Wireless keyboard/mouse is nice as well, but not really necessary; you can simply have or move (temporarily - you aren't really that lazy, are you?) your computer near your big TV. Or if you want a more permanent solution, there's a plethora of routes to choose from; such as using an additional mouse/keyboard set remotely near the TV on a KVM switch. (KVM Switch, DVI->HDMI cable, Stereo-7.1 cabling, additional keyboard/mouse can all run you around $70 if you know where to look.) Use your imagination. And I'm not just talking about a media PC that can barely run high-end graphics engines, though that is another option (building another PC that can run games as good as a console are just as, if not more expensive than the console itself - so defeats the purpose really).

So yes, there is a console in my future if I want to play AAA title games. They simply don't exists for the PC and worse for Mac.

You definitely haven't looked hard enough. There are several "AAA" games on the PC that no console game can even come close to. Not to mention the fact that MMO gaming is extremely limited on consoles. No, I'm not talking about WoW. WoW is 1 of dozens of MMOs and quite frankly a very poorly looking one and hardly a comparison for console graphics.

Keep in mind, in about 2 years - the next gen consoles will hit the market.... yikes.

And then PC components will all be ahead as well. Your point?

 

[razzb3d]

"We are suffering currently from the huge piracy that is encompassing Crysis," said Yerli back in april 2008. "We seem to lead the charts in piracy by a large margin, a chart leading that is not desirable. I believe that's the core problem of PC Gaming, piracy. To the degree PC gamers that pirate games inherently destroy the platform. Similar games on consoles sell factors of 4-5 more. It was a big lesson for us and I believe we won't have PC exclusives as we did with Crysis in future. We are going to support PC, but not exclusive anymore.”

You people are braindead. You can pirate console games a lot easyer than you can pirate a PC game. PC games require cracks and a little know-how. To pirate a console game, you pay to get your console modded, then just download game images and burn them to disk.

The only advantage to making a multi-platform game is selling it to a larger array of consumers. Besides, there are suprisingly few PCs out there cabable of running Crysis, let alone Crysis 2, were all consoles can run the game. By my logic, there are way more consoles out there than PCs capable of running high-end games.

The Piracy thing is just a lame excuse.

 

[aggroboy]

[citation][nom]razzb3d[/nom]You people are braindead. You can pirate console games a lot easyer than you can pirate a PC game. PC games require cracks and a little know-how. To pirate a console game, you pay to get your console modded, then just download game images and burn them to disk.[/citation]
Frequent firmware updates do get in the way a lot, even for the oft-pirated Wii games. PC is a lot easier.

 

[nebun]

pcs have been ahead of consoles long time ago...consoles are slow and awkward

 

[feeddagoat]

Like to add, bare in mind that if it wasn't for console ports we wouldn't have had ati decide that eyefinity was necessary to shift high end cards. With the 6 series or nvsurround on say 2x GTS450's entry requirements for eyefinity is fairly low and therefore cheaper compared to what it would be if every game pushed the boundaries of the gpu

 

[leakingpaint]

[citation][nom]razzb3d[/nom]You people are braindead. You can pirate console games a lot easyer than you can pirate a PC game. PC games require cracks and a little know-how. To pirate a console game, you pay to get your console modded, then just download game images and burn them to disk[/citation]

Um...PS3...anybody playing cracked games? Just curious...

easyer (lol)

 

[dalta centauri]

[citation][nom]pandemonium_ctp[/nom]Partly true, but not entirely. The age has developed into the point of favored relationships with the consumer. A new company is very unlikely to gain attention compared to an old.
Still amazes me to this day how people don't know how to connect a PC to a big screen TV. All you need is cabling and you're done. Wireless keyboard/mouse is nice as well, but not really necessary; you can simply have or move (temporarily - you aren't really that lazy, are you?) your computer near your big TV. Or if you want a more permanent solution, there's a plethora of routes to choose from; such as using an additional mouse/keyboard set remotely near the TV on a KVM switch. (KVM Switch, DVI->HDMI cable, Stereo-7.1 cabling, additional keyboard/mouse can all run you around $70 if you know where to look.) Use your imagination. And I'm not just talking about a media PC that can barely run high-end graphics engines, though that is another option (building another PC that can run games as good as a console are just as, if not more expensive than the console itself - so defeats the purpose really).You definitely haven't looked hard enough.[/citation]
1: A number of Indie games manage to get high popularity because of their creativity. Look at Minecraft, an open world Sim where you can have an endless world with near limitless possibilities is what Ive wanted for a while in an actual Sim based game, and Minecraft has made many sales and popularity for it's low open beta price. Even Super Meat Boy is a game that I was excitied to hear about, mainly because Ive played IWBTG and heard the character was in the game, the game has gained in popularity even with it's innitial launch for the xbox, only the pc will be getting a large amount of new characters and legit levels/DLC throughout 2011 :>

2: (This isn't arguing, just going along with you statement)
I don't know why so many people complain about how they want to sit on their couch/chair/bed while using a controller to play a video game. You can plug a controller that works with nearly every pc game now. For pc gamers, their prone to be closer to a monitor, so a 19/22/24" is large enough for them. Of course you can hook it up to a 60" tv, but your normally enjoying that television at a large distance.

 

[Murissokah]

[citation][nom]AMW1011[/nom]The simple truth is that the PC lacks many of these players simply because of the price of admission.[/citation]

I would add to that the fact that some people find the PC more complicated. Consoles are pretty straightforward, PCs have to deal with evil DRM and crash more often.

On the other hand, hardcore PC gamers are so much more willing to tinker with games and deal with their problems. Some games are actually "fixed" by the community, while other find great value there. One easy example is Fallout 3, which was easy to mod and has a huge modding community. Another easy one is DotA resurrecting Warcraft III.

Bottomline, I believe devs are fleeing from console because their business model is inadequate for the PC. Companies that understand that are not complaining about their sales figure. Ask Blizzard.

 

[therabiddeer]

How many people pirated Crysis just to see how well their computer handled it rather than to actually play it?

 

[of the way]

Man, I wish my PC was a generation ahead of my Xbox. After Christmas it might make it to half a generation ahead, instead of a generation behind...

 

[marraco]

When I pay 1500$ for a new PC, and it last 2 years, I pay 2$/day.

When I pay 60$ for a game, and it last 2 days, I pay 30$/day.

On that measure, Crysis value is 4$.

But if Crysis 2 cost 60$, and the experience is worse than a 2 years old computer, I pay 30$ a day, and waste 1500$.

Fallout 3 can be squeezed to last 15/30 days. It is worth his price.
Civilization V may last months before I get enough.
Crysis not even allows creation of single player maps.

At least, if they make an obsolete console game, it should last much more.

If they are too lazy to create content, users can do it for free.

 

[tommysch]

[citation][nom]Theguy360[/nom]I'm my opinion, what we need to do it see this from the point of view of the average gamer. This means the person who doesn't know how to build a PC, doesn't know how to hack their xbox/PS3, and thinks PC games are for nerds. Seriously, as a high-school student, there is a real negative connotation about PC gamers. What you get for your $250 xbox is pretty appealing. A system that will play everything you want, play with all your friends online, and with no need to upgrade for years, PC gaming can't compete with this. Standardized hardware that just works is hard to beat.[/citation]

Yeah and a Xbox360 is almost as powerful as my sound card, with less RAM...

 

[jgutz2006]

Alright i have no clue as to the makings of a PC game, or any game for that matter but what i don't get is why they dont make these expensive games with incredible PC quality graphics and then tone it down for consoles. Every pc game has the option of screen resolution, image/sound quality levels, can this not be replicated for consoles, just locking out those quality levels deemed to be too great for the particular console?

 

[schmich]

Bought the first Crysis and was very disappointed with the multiplayer. When that happens of course the game gets pirated. BF:BC2 has a great multiplayer and look at its sales: sales were way higher than they expected. It really all lies within the multiplayer as it's the game-mode that people can't really pirate (sure you can setup VPNs but lets not get silly now). That doesn't say that a great Single Player is bad but they need to focus more on social where pirating cannot be done. Also they could also make a good single player with a co-op version.

Only Valve, DICE and Blizzard have faith in PC and KNOW how to make games for that platform.

 

[rhino13]

Dead on.
Mark me and the PC down as a casualty of pirates.

 

[dalta centauri]

Bought the first Crysis and was very disappointed with the multiplayer. When that happens of course the game gets pirated. BF:BC2 has a great multiplayer and look at its sales: sales were way higher than they expected. It really all lies within the multiplayer as it's the game-mode that people can't really pirate (sure you can setup VPNs but lets not get silly now). That doesn't say that a great Single Player is bad but they need to focus more on social where pirating cannot be done. Also they could also make a good single player with a co-op version.

Only Valve, DICE and Blizzard have faith in PC and KNOW how to make games for that platform.

Although DICE did release BFBC1 for consoles only. DICE began making console ports after 2008, their a decent Company that I respect. I also respect Valve making games for Consoles now too, since the engine they use still shows how great & useful dx9 is; their not going to need to port down the console or pc versions for the other behalf.

@maracco There is an editor you can use, along with the sandbox in-game editor.

 

[bildo123]

[citation][nom]ct1615[/nom]the PC was a generation ahead two years ago, this isn't news.[/citation]

That and the fact that the 360 and PS3 ARE just what the article states, ROCKS! These consoles are relatively old and I was hardly impressed when considering their prices. What was the PS3 on release...7, 800? Basically they way it should have been is the PS3 graphics with the 360 prices. Regardless there hasn't been anything amazing with either consoles. Not like back in the day when you had Resident Evil, Silent Hill, Twisted Metal 2, GoldenEye, Final Fantasy 7 etc. The console arena wreaks of big business and this CoD every year non-sense, thats really it, even the Final Fantasy series has taken a massive dump.

 

[Petey1013]

People blaming piracy for low sales compared to consoles are just making excuses where they can find them.

What, you mean people buy more games for a system that only costs $2-300 dollars versus one that can cost anywhere from $800-4000?? Big suprise there. People pirate just as much on Xbox as they do on PC.

And I can't stress this enough... pirating does not equal lost sales. I'd say it'd be fair to say 70 to 80% of people who pirate would have NEVER bought what they were pirating in the first place. Sure, it's still stealing, and it's wrong, but it doesn't equal a loss of profit to the company.

Consoles sell more games then PCs because there are simply more of them. Pretty much every family with kids can afford to get a $200 system thats gonna last you the next 5 years as opposed to an $800 system that you're going to make upgrades to over the next 5 years. It's pretty simple.

I'm so sick and tired of companies using piracy as the reason they are leaning more towards consoles, instead of just being up front about it and saying it because that's where all the money is.

 

[tehfunk101]

I purchased Crysis. Then when Crysis: Warhead came out, i torrented it. I wasn't going to make the same mistake twice...

Sure, graphics are pretty, but some of the best selling games lately have been on aged, easy to run, not-the-best-looking engines (fallout 3/NV, Halflife 2 episodes, call of duty(s))

 

[ddg4005]

The issue isn't piracy since that's been going on since the dawn of gaming. I think it's just easier for developers to make games for consoles instead of PCs. Piracy is just a convenient excuse to justify neglecting the PC.

I'd bet good money that development cycles are shorter for consoles than computers. That means games get released faster and publishers can make their money back quicker even the game isn't good.

 

[liquidon]

[citation][nom]tpi2007[/nom]Completely agree!, and I would even add something else: when the new console comes out, there is absolutely no guarantee you can play the previous generation games on it! You have to pray your old console lasts for as long as you want to play them. If it breaks you're left to spending more money on a repair, or a new or second-hand one.With a PC, even if it's incompatible with a new OS, you can always 1. run the older OS alongside the new OS; 2. always have access to the game files and a whole community eager to fix them for compatibility or writing an emulator for it. You can't do that on a console.In fact, this is so blatantly true, that whatever games you have for the gameboy, game gear or other ancient gaming machines, like I do, the only way to get to play those classic (I own the cartridges, but the hardware stopped working properly a long time ago) is to get the ROM's and play them through an emulator...on a PC![/citation]

I feel no one else stated this FACT more better than this guy... Also now the emulators are working on ps2 games with online play options.... I really hope Crytek is not going to bone us. Crysis Made PC strong again. O I forgot did anyone on here see the review of this game on G4? They bashed this game but gave other carp (medal of honor) great ratings? WTF.

 

[dalta centauri]

I feel no one else stated this FACT more better than this guy... Also now the emulators are working on ps2 games with online play options.... I really hope Crytek is not going to bone us. Crysis Made PC strong again. O I forgot did anyone on here see the review of this game on G4? They bashed this game but gave other carp (medal of honor) great ratings? WTF.

Aren't they motivated by sponsors and who pays them to give good ratings?

 

[tommysch]

[citation][nom]liquidon[/nom]I feel no one else stated this FACT more better than this guy... Also now the emulators are working on ps2 games with online play options.... I really hope Crytek is not going to bone us. Crysis Made PC strong again. O I forgot did anyone on here see the review of this game on G4? They bashed this game but gave other carp (medal of honor) great ratings? WTF.[/citation]

Crysis was shit... and MoH is much better as a PC FPS. Crysis was beautiful but the gameplay was consolish, oh the irony. Want to fight piracy, make a decent competitive MP component.