Crytek: PC A Generation Ahead of Consoles

[brains2200]

Provide us LAN support provide us MODS support provide us our own dedicated servers support. Provide a good title at a good price. Provide us packaged deals licenses. I have 3 home computers all top specs. Raising two computer gamers that need good games buying 3 copies of a $60 loser game is a losing platform. However we have a wall full of bought boxes of games, they are trophies of great games. They do include Crysis and Crysis Wars (3) copies to you Mr Crytek worth every penny and enjoy your great game. We still find ourselves in Sandbox2 making levels.

Their will always be pirates. To fight them is less successful then not fighting them. The good products will win.

 

[rbarone69]

Most of you who posted dont have a clue what you are talking about.

Go run a business that creates something and has it stolen. Then comment.

 

[Guest]

I believe OnLive like consoles will be the future and so piracy and hardware limitations would be over.

 

[maigo]

like 3 gens ahead, but whatever

 

[razercultmember1]

[citation][nom]Soldier37[/nom]Uhm I would say several generations as I upgrade every year but can afford to its a hobby to me. Its how it is with consoles, any Joe can go pick up a $199 console and a $60 game and play but not everyone can lay down $1000k plus or in my case $3000k for hardware capable of playing at high resolutions suck as 2560 x 1600 like me. I demand the best and buy it. Its, surprising to me the amount of people I play online with think that older guys plays these games too we just have better hardware is all. I'm 41 and will play these games until I'm gone, its fun to see a build come together and the end result of it. For me its awesome to be able to boot up in 12 seconds, first one loaded into the game with SSD drives yes I have 2 one for OS one for games and a terabyte backup. Quad core @4ghz there is nothing else that comes close to playing with maxed out specs gaming at its best imo![/citation]
/agree. The first time I turned on my first new build (i7 930 oc 3.53ghz, 5870) and downloaded the Crysis demo and ran it on Max 4x AA 16x AF at 1680x1050 (yea smaller screen ) god it was breathtaking

 

[pocketdrummer]

Make a console with a mouse and keyboad, and maybe we wouldn't need PCs for games. I agree, pirates are killing Pc gaming, but consoles are terrible at certain genres (fps, rts, etc). We need a better option. Pretty soon horrid console ports will kill PC gaming before the pirates get a chance to finish the job

 

[zambutu]

I didn't see anyone mention this but all the extra PC power can be used for a triple monitor setup. So it's not all wasted. Take that consoles..

 

[belardo]

The generalized causes of PC gaming suffering. Not in any particular order:

1 - Piracy, loss of sales = less desire to develop

2 - Xbox360 / Micosoft = They make 360 exclusive titles. Halo3? Gears2? FU-MS.

3 - World of Warcraft = 12million+ active user! OUCH! People play this game 2~24hrs a day, for weeks, months or years without playing other games... or rarely.

4 - SecuROM(7)'s rootkit = Limited installs (2~5) and crap running in background. There are over 8 games *I WOULD HAVE BOUGHT*, but did not because of this: Mirror's Edge, Bioshock 1 & 2, etc. Great job EA, make games even more hostile to your customers. I've had my first SecuROM keep the game from working right... and I'm supposed to pay for this?

5 - Bad ports / quality issues: I've bought all my Unreal/UT games... UT3 has great tech - but degraded console quality and unplayable maps. Nobody is playing UT3 online = I don't play either, etc etc... ugh.

6 - HDTV... Can't really blame it. Playing a racing or fighting game on a 50~70" screen with awesome sound vs. a typical 22~23" screen from a computer. Of course, dual monitors for some games like WOW simply kills any console.

So yes, there is a console in my future if I want to play AAA title games. They simply don't exists for the PC and worse for Mac.

PC gaming will never die, but it'll always be for a niche market for people who play WOW and flight-sims. The best FPS will always be the PC crowd... even if its small.

Keep in mind, in about 2 years - the next gen consoles will hit the market.... yikes.

 

[qhoa1385]

It has been like that seen PC was born!

 

[dEAne]

Yes, I believe that it is not that Crysis 2 on PC suffers from console-oriented limitations, it is due mostly to piracy.

 

[ddkshah]

Actually crysis 2 isn't going to be dumbed down as nvidia paid crytek to optimize it for the gtx 580 (heavy tessellation) so I do think that crysis 2 will look a lot better than crysis 1. Also I know how people bash nvidia but atleast they spend money from their profits to optimize games for their video cards.

 

[Mulder19]

I sympathize with him and would like to see piracy stop too. However, when you build a game that no one can run well and scales poorly, you are not going to get good sales. $50 buck makes for a pricey benchmark. If Crysis 2 can deliver on graphics and gameplay, I will purchase it.

 

[sudeshc]

The main reason game devs are not that bothered about PC is easy piracy of PC Games and hence less revenue so why take soo much efforts for it.

 

[belardo]

You can make a crap game on a console and make more profit and sales.

How many games for consoles aren't even sold on stores nowadays? STEAM could possibly save PC gaming in terms of piracy and as long as those titles don't have SecuROM.

 

[pharoahhalfdead]

It's funny how Game developers wine about "piracy," yet they've done a great job of pushing people to it with all this junk about "verify that the game is yours by connecting to the internet each time you play, even for a simple single player game." Over the last year and a half, I've bought around 30 games from steam alone, however, I don't download them from steam. Because of internet pricing, there are times when I don't have the internet, so am I supposed to be without a way to play something like Starcraft 2? I am not going to have something like steam running in the background, or MS games, or whatever. So instead I download the cracked games. COD4, Geometry Wars, Batman, Crysis, etc. I wont buy a game unless there is already a crack out there. All the games I have I've paid for.
With college, work, dating, and other things, I only play about 30 minutes a week, but when I'm getting games for 66-90% off, hey it's worth having so many games. There's also Direct2drive, and MS Games.
I buy my movies (blu ray) but I also download the ones I buy. Planet Earth, Ong Bak, Lord of the Rings, Life, etc., because I hate getting up and switching disks, then waiting for it to load up, go through previews, and plenty of lag. Why do that when I can have them all on my hard drive? I've seen movies that I've never opened bcuz I downloaded them "AFTER" I bought them.
Internet companies wouldn't make the money they're making without "piracy." Especially the tier level pricing. The last thing they should do is kick people off bcuz they used a torrent. The ones that profit most are the internet companies. How else are people going to watch Naruto and Bleach?
Peoples, buy your music, games, and movies. There is no justification for "STEALING" no matter how horrendous the product is. You don't like when people steal from you, but you justify your selfish, stingy, greedy, laziness with a sophisms, and untenable logic, just so that you can pacify your guilty conscience when you steal. Isn't stealing one of the "BIG 10!"

 

[Guest]

Downloading content from the internet is not illegal. It’s like a big can, everyone can drop stuff in it and everyone is free to take from it. The illegal part is dropping the stuff on the WWW-NET.

 

[BulkZerker]

[citation][nom]Trueno07[/nom]So many people say that they're willing to buy a game that's worth the money, but somehow a game like crysis is one of the most pirated games.Live up to your word, pirates, you're slowly killing our industry.[/citation]


An interactive benchmark is not a game.

 

[Guest]

Does anyone remember the game [ The Elder Scrolls - Oblivion ] !
In the TECH-DEMO they showed these very impressive SOFT-SHADOWS.
I fought WOW I want that game, so I downloaded it.
And guess what, NO SOFT-SHADOWS !

How would you feel if you had actually had payed 80,- for this game.
This game was downgraded to be played on the dam PLAYSTATION ! !

 

[scrumworks]

If you put your fancy game into Steam for 10€ I will buy it.

 

[BulkZerker]

[citation][nom]ddkshah[/nom]Actually crysis 2 isn't going to be dumbed down as nvidia paid crytek to optimize it for the gtx 580 (heavy tessellation) so I do think that crysis 2 will look a lot better than crysis 1. Also I know how people bash nvidia but atleast they spend money from their profits to optimize games for their video cards.[/citation]

No they "give" dev's "free" hardware to test their games on. And also make sure that their competitors don't get their hardware onto test systems. AMD/ATI cards aren't the best at tessellation why? Because they are gunning to make games easier to enable AA on with lower end cards so more people can get into gaming by dropping in a sub $150 card into any rig made in the past 5 years. (Something with CPU stats similar to those OMG boxes)

Nvidia Meanwhile still tries to moonshot at every chance, and only "occasionally" kicks out a card that a 9-5 worker can afford without having to budget for said card for months in advance if they intend to buy it at MSRP.

AS for Piracy, I am gonna say it again, why pay for a benchmark? People just want to use popular demanding games to baseline their systems against others. TO know how their stacks up, thats like car guys taking their car to a dragstrip or a Dynomomiter to see how their car performs.

 

[r_pad]

He's right! I wish I had bought crysis! Game was worth $60 dollars. Not like SC2, which I think isn't even worth $20!

 

[rantoc]

Considering XBox is only at DX9 and the PC is DX11 i say their 2 generations behind in that department alone, then factor in the speed of the hardware well... Hope MS make a DX11 xbox soon or the PC gaming will suffer further from lazy devs, i can see a bright future if that happens thoo, tessellation ect will allow software to scale really well over different setups, play well on consoles with reduced quality and allow even the most heavy gaming PC to be utilized fully!

 

[kronos_cornelius]

Piracy is a big problem in the information age. But it is not just the PC that is infected. Every device can be hacked. What the industry should do is modify the business plan around the problem. For example, many already predict the end of Microsoft because their business model revolves around selling licences of an OS that in itself does nothing. Apple on the other hand sells a product that gets users hooked to the content Apple sells. And Google use its Android OS to ensure an open Internet that allows it to show advertisement to users, which in turn gets the OS paid and a hefty profit. Likewise, game developers should start trying out ways to get more revenue even if the game is stolen (i.e. advertisements). The services like the Xbox live subcription are harder to hack also, because it requires having a corrupt device talk to a server maintained by the game developer.

 

[feeddagoat]

Sell through steam exclusively....simples! *meerkat sound* tbh I don't think consoles are free from piracy either, they just handle it better ie. Lockdown of entire console. Imagine if you could do that on pc, get it wrong and it isn't £100 of damage, its a few hundred ontop of loss a lot of people valuable data since pcs are used broadly. Mind you something like that would really make you think twice about pirate software

 

[bustapr]

Solution to the problem... sell/register the games on Steam...