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[citation][nom]DSpider[/nom]"Sure, developers prefer the console sector because of piracy and stability issues"What stability issues? Make a good, SOLID game and it will work even on Windows 8. For example, Dune 2000 works (in Win98/ME compatibility mode), and also: Serious Sam, Diablo II, Unreal Tournament, Counter-Strike 1.6. These were all great games in their time.The point is that they were coded (more or less) correctly, not like the unoptimized crap they pull these days - which they get away with too, because of increasing hardware potency.[/citation]
Yeah FreeSpace 2 vanilla still works with 64-bit Win 7. Yes it warns you about having -4MB RAM but you can just say "Ok" and it works. 😀
Yeah FreeSpace 2 vanilla still works with 64-bit Win 7. Yes it warns you about having -4MB RAM but you can just say "Ok" and it works. 😀
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[citation][nom]guardianangel42[/nom]Funny you should mention torrent sites. Crysis 2 was 2011's most pirated PC game. It totalled over 3.5 million copies download. MW3 was right behind it at roughly the same number.Consoles? Most pirated console game was Super Mario Galaxy 2 with 1.8 million downloaded. Next in line had only 889,000 downloads.Don't even try and lie and say they're comparable.[/citation]
I think the numbers you expose by themselves do not tell truth or lie... because you only look at downloads, shouldn't be relative to the total number of PCs / consoles ?
Again, there is also something to take into account: most of the time people will play that game by getting a pirate copy... but that does not mean that guy would pay for the game if it could not have it free.
I think the numbers you expose by themselves do not tell truth or lie... because you only look at downloads, shouldn't be relative to the total number of PCs / consoles ?
Again, there is also something to take into account: most of the time people will play that game by getting a pirate copy... but that does not mean that guy would pay for the game if it could not have it free.
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1: No to 'free to play' and gouging schemes.
2: As it is now and future, PC gamers will be concerned (not fear) of quality setbacks due to soon to be next gen consoles.
3: Developers using piracy as an excuse is a front, to disguise their own laziness. Id Software's John Carmak has already expressed his thoughts of unity in consoles.
2: As it is now and future, PC gamers will be concerned (not fear) of quality setbacks due to soon to be next gen consoles.
3: Developers using piracy as an excuse is a front, to disguise their own laziness. Id Software's John Carmak has already expressed his thoughts of unity in consoles.
Sure, developers prefer the console sector because its cheaper and easier to develop a title made after the same standard that was set on the consoles a whooping five years ago. Rather than take advantage of the latest and greatest hardware the developers can get away cheaply and easily in the console sector , but that doesn't mean the PC platform will be neglected... at least, not if Crytek has anything to do with it.
There, fixed it!
[citation][nom]ojas[/nom]Yeah FreeSpace 2 vanilla still works with 64-bit Win 7. Yes it warns you about having -4MB RAM but you can just say "Ok" and it works.[/citation]
Most old games works fine if the coders knew their art and used the api's ect in the OS's correctly, its the "home-made hacks" that usually breaks the compatibility of the games later down the road.
Most old games works fine if the coders knew their art and used the api's ect in the OS's correctly, its the "home-made hacks" that usually breaks the compatibility of the games later down the road.
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The only thing I fear is that all my favourite RPG game franchises will start suffering from consolitis one by one... oh... it's already happening...
And here's a new one for RPGs MMOnia (compliments of Blizzard-Diablo3)
And here's a new one for RPGs MMOnia (compliments of Blizzard-Diablo3)
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The Question here is if Crytek is financially supported by the Turkish Drug Mafia 
So financing a "new business model" might not be much of an issue for them...
So financing a "new business model" might not be much of an issue for them...
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[citation][nom]joafu[/nom]"Sure, developers prefer the console sector because of piracy" People are pirating free games now? No wonder all my facebook friends aren't responding to my farmville requests, they've pirated it and are playing offline!/stay irrelevant Crytek[/citation]
While you should stay illiterate. The part you quoted is not in quotes in the news post and it is no where in the original article this is linked to. Crytek did not say that, that was "commentary" added in by THG.
While you should stay illiterate. The part you quoted is not in quotes in the news post and it is no where in the original article this is linked to. Crytek did not say that, that was "commentary" added in by THG.
I don't fear consoles... I despise game developers that try to pass console-oriented s#!t as high quality PC games.
When they can't increase revenue (due to lack of new creative ideas), the only way to keep money from investors is to find someone else to blame. "We can't increase revenue because... ". Some excuses widely used:
"because of piracy"
"because our DRM is not strong enough"
"because people want free-to-play titles instead of paying 60 dollars in advance"
"because everybody want to play more call of duty"
"because games must be online"
"because we don't have social features"
"because our business model is flawed"
and many others..
But the great problem still is: lack of new creative ideas. Lack of innovation. It's so hard to find out a solution to a so obvious problem?
"because of piracy"
"because our DRM is not strong enough"
"because people want free-to-play titles instead of paying 60 dollars in advance"
"because everybody want to play more call of duty"
"because games must be online"
"because we don't have social features"
"because our business model is flawed"
and many others..
But the great problem still is: lack of new creative ideas. Lack of innovation. It's so hard to find out a solution to a so obvious problem?
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But what if I don't want to play your stupid online FTP crap? What if I want more quality single player games?
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[citation][nom]borden5[/nom]When was I fear about console in the first place[/citation]
the only fear I would have is the lack of decent hardware that would hold us back like it is right now. oh great game you made the- wait, its developed for hardware thats 7 years behind? great... well at least my netbook could run i- oh wait, its a poorly made port? nevermind.
the only fear I would have is the lack of decent hardware that would hold us back like it is right now. oh great game you made the- wait, its developed for hardware thats 7 years behind? great... well at least my netbook could run i- oh wait, its a poorly made port? nevermind.
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[citation][nom]guardianangel42[/nom]It's not a knowledge thing if I understand it correctly. Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo have built hardware checks into their systems to prevent piracy. In order to pirate on consoles, you need to modify either the hardware or the software of the console itself. For instance, you can't just burn a game onto a disc and expect it to play because the Xbox (speaking from experience) physically checks a holographic ring on the inside of the disc (that plastic, unused space on a DVD) to determine if it's genuine.Sure it's entirely possible to modify the console so that it doesn't need to check that ring and sure it's entirely possible to simply install your own OS on the console but it's significantly harder than simply downloading a torrent and using an emulator. It also may or may not cost actual money to do (I haven't done too much investigating into current gen modding, just the last gen Xbox) so it's already got more barriers to entry than PC.When developers say that consoles have lower piracy rates, that's why. You may have to buy a $30 mod chip and learn how to solder, you may need to use a loophole in code to install your OS, you may need to crack open the Xbox or PS3.And if you do modify your Xbox 360, you run the very real risk of getting your account banned because Microsoft is so adept at detecting modification that it knows how fast your hard drive is spinning. And, unlike on PC, if your account gets banned you can't play online at all with that Xbox which means you have to buy a whole new one.[/citation]
They sell already-modified 360s here and people don't give crap about getting banned from XBL since you can pick up a TON of pirated single player games in the stores for just $1-2 per game (they actually charge only for the DVS), so 1 torrent turns into thousands of pirated copies distributed.
I should probably mention I live in India, so that's quite a lot of console piracy 😀
They sell already-modified 360s here and people don't give crap about getting banned from XBL since you can pick up a TON of pirated single player games in the stores for just $1-2 per game (they actually charge only for the DVS), so 1 torrent turns into thousands of pirated copies distributed.
I should probably mention I live in India, so that's quite a lot of console piracy 😀
[citation][nom]Zingam_Duo[/nom]The problem is if you wish to play any hardcore games. Would play something that does not have an AAA budget and AAA graphics? Like that game (made by a friend of mine): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0MlYJ4IrrU[/citation]
I would.
I would.
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wow cant wait im loving making maps and small games with cryenginge 3 sdk awesome gunna have fun for free sopon
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Gaming is my escape from the stresses of life such as money and bills. I don't want it integrated into my gaming experience (aka the FTP model). I want to pay once, get it overwith and then just enjoy my game.
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[citation][nom]aggroboy[/nom]That's not statistics. You have to compare actual piracy figures across different consoles.I see TH posters prefer rant posts that make unsubstantiated assumptions about game development and sales without any real experience/inside knowledge to back them up.[/citation]
I see you have never tried to buy a console on craigslist. Type in Xbox 360 on craiglsist. You should see at least 5-10 posts in the first 2 pages about modding your Xbox.
In case you do not know, the only reason to mod the Xbox is to void your warranty and play illegal games. Guess which one people usually do it for.
I see you have never tried to buy a console on craigslist. Type in Xbox 360 on craiglsist. You should see at least 5-10 posts in the first 2 pages about modding your Xbox.
In case you do not know, the only reason to mod the Xbox is to void your warranty and play illegal games. Guess which one people usually do it for.
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[citation][nom]zachusaman[/nom]the only fear I would have is the lack of decent hardware that would hold us back like it is right now. oh great game you made the- wait, its developed for hardware thats 7 years behind? great... well at least my netbook could run i- oh wait, its a poorly made port? nevermind.[/citation]
not enough thumbs to put up in the world
not enough thumbs to put up in the world
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[citation][nom]buddhabelly34[/nom]I see you have never tried to buy a console on craigslist. Type in Xbox 360 on craiglsist. You should see at least 5-10 posts in the first 2 pages about modding your Xbox.In case you do not know, the only reason to mod the Xbox is to void your warranty and play illegal games. Guess which one people usually do it for.[/citation]
Why did you even reply to him. Every post he makes is... "You don't know what you are talking about, are you in the field/business of (insert subject)". As if to elude to he is and knows better than you.
Why did you even reply to him. Every post he makes is... "You don't know what you are talking about, are you in the field/business of (insert subject)". As if to elude to he is and knows better than you.
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[citation][nom]guardianangel42[/nom]Funny you should mention torrent sites. Crysis 2 was 2011's most pirated PC game. It totalled over 3.5 million copies download. MW3 was right behind it at roughly the same number.Consoles? Most pirated console game was Super Mario Galaxy 2 with 1.8 million downloaded. Next in line had only 889,000 downloads.Don't even try and lie and say they're comparable.[/citation]
Dear guardianangel, your argument is irrevelant because the global Wii user base is about 10 times smaller than PC. Good night
Dear guardianangel, your argument is irrevelant because the global Wii user base is about 10 times smaller than PC. Good night
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The consoles are destroying the PC platform because developers don't understand a single thing about piracy.
1. You cannot rent a game on PC. Downloading the game is the best way to try a game first. It doesn't mean that a download mean a lost sale, on the contrary, it can means a sale. I have try a game and I purchase it. I did that with Mirror's Edge, Mass Effect 1&2 and Dead Space, so that argument is so irrelevant.
2. Not only this, but they add ABUSIVE anti-piracy. You know what? I was still using my pirated copy of Mirror's Edge and Mass Effect 2 even if I had the games sealed next to me because they were not monitored by some stupid game protection like Rootkits. Seriously, internet connection required for playing a game is just as bad as On Disc-DLC (Stupid Capcom).
3. Unlike console users, PC users are not going to accept being milked by cheap tricks and they can show their innapprobation by downloading a game instead of buying it, while the console users just swallow their pride most of the time.
1. You cannot rent a game on PC. Downloading the game is the best way to try a game first. It doesn't mean that a download mean a lost sale, on the contrary, it can means a sale. I have try a game and I purchase it. I did that with Mirror's Edge, Mass Effect 1&2 and Dead Space, so that argument is so irrelevant.
2. Not only this, but they add ABUSIVE anti-piracy. You know what? I was still using my pirated copy of Mirror's Edge and Mass Effect 2 even if I had the games sealed next to me because they were not monitored by some stupid game protection like Rootkits. Seriously, internet connection required for playing a game is just as bad as On Disc-DLC (Stupid Capcom).
3. Unlike console users, PC users are not going to accept being milked by cheap tricks and they can show their innapprobation by downloading a game instead of buying it, while the console users just swallow their pride most of the time.
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the last game from Crytek that i played was Crysis... in 2007 .. Right now playing BF3, Skyrim, Diablo 3 ... Seems like Crytek just needs some publicity
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