Diablo 3 Gamers Petition for Offline Gameplay Patch

[PraxGTI]

Seriously, its not that bad. "OMGROFLCOPTER I CANT PLAY RIGHT NOW!!!"...who cares....go read a book or get a girlfriend, seriously.

Diablo 3 is awesome, better than D1, better than D2. Software cannot ever be 100% perfect at launch, and Blizzard is doing a great job of fixing and addressing the issues as quickly as possible.

If you aren't a programmer, or you don't understand the software development process, then either buy the game or don't but stop complaining about things you don't understand just because you can't play Diablo 24/7.

There haven't been more than 4-5 hour windows between downtime, which is pretty good for the size of this thing. Yes, it sucks that we paid for something that isn't 100% ready, but welcome to every single online game that has ever come out. Offline Mode? Yes that should have been readily available, but Blizzard is a company and needs to make money, welcome to North America where capitalism is your friend.

In capatalism, the moment a company like Blizzard starts ignoring the need to make profit, they go out of business, their shareholders/investers pull out, and then none of us can ever play again (HellGate London Anyone? One year after launch the servers were permanantly offline, no refunds).

Get over it, and get over yourselves. Go outside and play with the opposite sex.

 

[Auroram]

[citation][nom]Rick_Criswell[/nom]I will probably buy it once the always online is removed. Tried the beta and was able to connect to the servers once during the weekend. What good is it if you can not connect to the servers, or two years from now they decide they are not making enough money off of the game and shut down the servers. You can no longer play a game you purchased. I still have a lot of old games that I occasionally load up and play. But if they shut down the servers this is not possible.[/citation]
They still support Warcraft 3, Starcraft, Diablo 2, etc... games which have been out for a decade which are still being supported with servers and patches. I don't see Blizz taking D3 offline anytime soon, especially not when a real money AH is involved.

Further, you did not play the darn beta. The weekend where everybody was invited to play was clearly stated to be a server stress test, not something representative of the final product. Yes, I realize that the servers are still crappy anyway. It would simply be nice if people stop making false statements to try and make a valid statement, as it takes away from your credibility. Do you even want Blizzard to take you seriously? It's not showing when saying stuff like that...

 

[Guest]

wont buy the game till they do make it offline....

 

[nexuseclipse]

This petition sounds like a mess. In my opinion, the whole point of not having offline access is to
1) avoid people using hacks or exploits to dupe items/gold (which is why offline users shouldn't have access to the online auction house at ALL)
2) be able to apply overnight fixes for any exploits found or hacks used without worrying about the game economy falling apart
3) avoid people wasting time leveling single player characters to discover they cant play with anyone else online

I dont think DRM was the only reason why they went with this route but if they were to make an offline mode, it would have to be as it was in D2, not allowed on battle.net at all which includes the auction house. I have been playing on my LAN (with a couple of people) on battle.net and have not had any significant issues but maybe my internet connection is better that some of the other people in these comments.

 

[arangarx]

[citation][nom]wildkitten[/nom]Actually, that's not boxes sold. Over a million of that number got it for free with the Annual Pass.[/citation]

Lol, so you're one of those people. You don't know how many people bought that pass to get Diablo 3. ;p

 

[zak_mckraken]

199 signatures, out of a 25,000 goal, out of 6,300,000 + copies sold? Yeah, I'm sure Blizzard will make a patch just for you! Good luck with that.

 

[Star72]

[citation][nom]of the way[/nom]So many thoughtless comments that should be responded to....but I'll just say that regarding being able to play the game in the future if they shut the servers down, it is my belief that D3 will have at least as much longevity as D2. And if they do shut down the servers at some point, there wouldn't be much of a reason for them not to allow offline play. It would be work for them, but I believe they would do it.[/citation]

I still bought the game (annual pass actually) despite the need to always be online. I don't regret it but it always feels better knowing that I can break out a game & play it whenever I want, even 15 years from now. But since you "believe", I guess we can all relax lol.

 

[gsxrme]

The ONLY way i see offline mode working is if OFFLINE players only can play with LAN members and not online at all. If Character data is stored locally then some one is going to spoil the fun for every by hacking the toons profile and giving items or gold when not earned.

Offline = Offline players LAN only for multi
Online = Online single or Online Multi

Simple fix. and if you want to QQ about that then go crawl in to someones grave and die!

Offline mode items also can't be listed on the AH or Real money AH either. so..... ya, blizzard get it working so i can see all this QQing go away.

 

[Guest]

I'll sign this petition after I return my car to the dealership, because I wanted it to run on hugs and rainbows and not gasoline, despite being told that cars run on gasoline.

 

[pomop]

[citation][nom]rantoc[/nom]This petition is already signed with over 15.500 angry customers and it got almost 10.000 signed from yesterday alone! Its mainly for the Eu.http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/diablo3complaint[/citation]
I agree the hackings are still a mystery. It's strange that so many people are being hacked, I don't think they're all trying to download weird programs with viruses, so not sure how they got them. They may have already had a keylogger that waited until D3 was released to steal their info. Every one of the threads on the forums that I've read about having authenticator, it's been the app; and blizzard stated that the app currently isn't working for D3.

And you say that it encourages gold sellers, true. However, there will ALWAYS be gold sellers. No matter what, no matter where. There is one constant in online gaming, and that's gold sellers. So instead of having them on the sidelines making trouble, blizzard is putting them in their own cage and is able to monitor them. Not only that, but they will also have to compete with the players pricing of gold.

Why not? lol I mean the game is clearly still in development. I've played this 'beta' through once only and when I wanted to sit down for a good sitting on nightmare I could not log in due to maintenance on the auction house. A day or so later logged in successfully and teamed up with a friend. Felt my dmg is not up to par. Then went on the gold auction house and bought two fist weapons for my monk that tripled my dmg for 4k gold. Less than a third of the cost of upgrading my blacksmith currently. I really don't know why they added the crafting feature. I loot 4k in about 10 minutes. So all in all it feels a bit easy for me as a whole. Not a serious RPG...

That's like saying wow is stupid easy because the first 5 levels are all easy. Normal, nightmare and even hell.. there's not even a comparison. I'd say taking candy from a baby, but even that's 10x more difficult than these difficulty levels.

Also, the game was only under a long duration of maintenence the second day of launch to fix some pretty big bugs. Since then, it's only scattered 2 hour patches that usually happen at night.

 

[pomop]

Something I forgot to add - it's going to be a long, long time before they say that D3 is no longer viable. Warcraft 3, Starcraft and diablo 2 are all on servers and they're still up and running. Eve Online is an mmo and the servers are more expensive than D3 servers, only has 30-40k subscribers and just put out a new big content patch. Shattered Galaxy has about 1000 players and is still up and running. If blizzard were to have to shut down D3's server, I have no doubt they'd update the client to allow us to install it single player. Most of you keep seeing Blizzard as some evil fat cat company, and I don't believe that. Obviously like every business, they're in it for the money. However, my experience with blizzard as a company has been more friendly than my experience with EA, capcom and square enix.

 

[eddieroolz]

I can't believe it takes a petition to try to get Blizzard to change their ways. What an out of touch company it has become.

 

[wildkitten]

[citation][nom]rantoc[/nom]How did they cripple it? You do know its OPTIONAL if you want a lazy persons single weekly authenticator check or every single time you log into either of their games/website? If you can't do proper research and gather FACTS (not some cry baby's who borrowed their account to a friend and then got "hacked"). That they have failed with the D3 server uptime is a complete other matter and that is inexcusable especially when enforcing even single players to be on-line all the time.Simply put - Don't claim its flawed when its optional, its like crying to the car manufacturer's that a person got hurt while not having the seatbelt on. That would be telling, just like the above! And while at it, the reason it is optional is because people asked for it and Blizzard choose to listen to the customers unlike many other companies.[/citation]

Yes, it is optional. However, the default setting was to have the authenticator not be asked for when your account is logged in from what the login servers think is your regular location. That's how people discovered this last year because WoW stopped asking for the authenticator. And btw, those of us who went in to our accoutns and made it ask every time, we had to go back into our battle.net settings because with D3's launch it reverted back to automatically not asking.

And you can cry "it's optional" all you want, it still doesn't take away from the fact it IS flawed and a very BAD IDEA. As I said, NO ONE who had an authenticator asked for this "feature". It does not provide one additional benefit to anyone and in fact allows hackers to more easily defeat the authentication system.

 

[wildkitten]

[citation][nom]arangarx[/nom]Lol, so you're one of those people. You don't know how many people bought that pass to get Diablo 3. ;p[/citation]
Actually not, I left WoW a year ago.

I know how many people Blizzard claims got the pass.
http://wow.joystiq.com/2012/02/09/1-million-people-signed-up-for-the-wow-annual-pass/

And why else would they sign up for it? Besides, even if they signed up just for the mount, they still got D3 for free which means that was a copy that wasn't actually sold.

 

[Hellstalker]

Petition here: http://www.change.org/petitions/blizzard-entertainment-diablo-3-offline-single-player-patch

 

[pomop]

Just an FYI, the authenticator code is required for any computer that is not the last computer you logged in to. (Except the once a week time it asks) Any location, even from a different computer with the same router requires you to retype the code. I can verify this because my brother and I both have authenticators and we lived in the same house for years. Soon ago he moved out of state, and when visiting, either of us have to put in our authentication code if we want to play.

 

[Guest]

I know I haven't bought it for that exact reason, I heard that the save points aren't easy either.

 

[pomop]

[citation][nom]Tecknowolf[/nom]I know I haven't bought it for that exact reason, I heard that the save points aren't easy either.[/citation]
You heard incorrect. Even mid quest you get checkpoints that you can resume from later on.

 

[wildkitten]

[citation][nom]pomop[/nom]Just an FYI, the authenticator code is required for any computer that is not the last computer you logged in to. (Except the once a week time it asks) Any location, even from a different computer with the same router requires you to retype the code. I can verify this because my brother and I both have authenticators and we lived in the same house for years. Soon ago he moved out of state, and when visiting, either of us have to put in our authentication code if we want to play.[/citation]
It's IP address based. The fact that Blizzard introduced this hole into a secrutiy feature means that a proxy based attack can make Blizzard's login servers think an account is being logged in from it's usual location.

Apparently you have missed the news about lots of people with authenticators being hacked the past couple of weeks. Tom's even had the article a few days ago and even journalists have had it happen to them.

 

[pomop]

[citation][nom]wildkitten[/nom]It's IP address based. The fact that Blizzard introduced this hole into a secrutiy feature means that a proxy based attack can make Blizzard's login servers think an account is being logged in from it's usual location.Apparently you have missed the news about lots of people with authenticators being hacked the past couple of weeks. Tom's even had the article a few days ago and even journalists have had it happen to them.[/citation]
I didn't, and I addressed it. Every person I've seen claim that they've been hacked with an authenticator say they have the app, and blizzard has said that the app currently does not work with D3.

Also know that I think something is wrong with everyone getting hacked. I don't think this many players have all downloaded something that can compromise their account. I'm not saying blizzard is not at fault because they very well may be somehow due to a security hole somewhere.

 

[iloqin]

[citation][nom]mahdhatre[/nom]They dropped the ball on this one to save a few bucks, and you guys are on your knees asking for more.[/citation]

I highly doubt that they need anymore cash, they're already as large as it is. To say that they purposely allowed for crappy servers to be released is a terrible assumption. Sure they dropped the ball, but I don't think they dropped the ball to save a few bucks.

 

[tomfreak]

[citation][nom]iloqin[/nom]I highly doubt that they need anymore cash, they're already as large as it is. To say that they purposely allowed for crappy servers to be released is a terrible assumption. Sure they dropped the ball, but I don't think they dropped the ball to save a few bucks.[/citation]exactly, and people would shut up if they have make online only and offline only characters.

1. Able offline play with offline only characters
2. Items cannot be dupe for online play due to character store in server side?

I totally cannot see any reason why blizzard cannot offer such option. it is not like they do not have resources to develop 2 diff system within a game.

 

[youssef 2010]

[citation][nom]Just a user[/nom]Not sure how far this will go as its got to be more than a "patch" involved as a lot of the game processing is done server-side now and the "patch" would be a re-write of the game code to move the processing over to the client-side.[/citation]

They have two options. They can be polite and patch it or the community will do it for them.

 

[hetneo]

No link to petition?! Cm'on mr Parrish, that's just lame.

"The goal is expected to be achieved in no time once word of the petition begins to saturate the news channels."

Tom's is news channel, no? Well saturate it then.

 

[casualcolors]

[citation][nom]iloqin[/nom]I highly doubt that they need anymore cash, they're already as large as it is. To say that they purposely allowed for crappy servers to be released is a terrible assumption. Sure they dropped the ball, but I don't think they dropped the ball to save a few bucks.[/citation]

Are you unfamiliar with the premise of business? More specifically, doing business with a consumer base that will ultimately purchase any goods that you produce, at almost any cost, regardless of any perceived or real flaw in that product?

How anyone can blame Blizzard for cutting the widest profit margin possible is beyond me. How anyone can think that Blizzard isn't doing exactly that, is beyond me. How anyone could, knowing the two previous indictments of their company's moral character yet still purchase their goods, is beyond me.

Video gamers are the most irresponsible consumers in the world.