Question Do i need to install the chipset?

[meshcoco]

so after finishing this computer i built and all the troubles i went through, it now works perfectly fine, reads my graphic card, shows display, super fast i love it. installed the OS, do i need to download the chipset or anything else? it works fine and its reading everything fine, geforce reading my gpu, motherboard reading everything right so far.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 gaming edge wifi
GPU: msi geforce rtx 2070 super
Memory: 32GB (4x8) corsair vengeance 2400mhz
Storage: 1TB SSD 860 Samsung EVO
PSU: 1200w corsair
Fans: Thermaltake
Case: Thermaltake 71TG

 

[meshcoco]

any software i should download btw to keep track of my computer? i have CPUID so far and a benchmark one but thats all i have

 

[awnetty]

so after finishing this computer i built and all the troubles i went through, it now works perfectly fine, reads my graphic card, shows display, super fast i love it. installed the OS, do i need to download the chipset or anything else? it works fine and its reading everything fine, geforce reading my gpu, motherboard reading everything right so far.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 gaming edge wifi
GPU: msi geforce rtx 2070 super
Memory: 32GB (4x8) corsair vengeance 2400mhz
Storage: 1TB SSD 860 Samsung EVO
PSU: 1200w corsair
Fans: Thermaltake
Case: Thermaltake 71TG

Sounds like a great build, good job.

For the motherboard (MB), you don't need to do anything with the chipset already built in. You should however check to ensure that you have the most up to date BIOS software. You can start here (only download these files from MSI):

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-X570-GAMING-EDGE-WIFI

Just do so carefully and make sure that when the BIOS is updating that you don't interrupt it by cutting the power or something like that on your computer.

For temp-tracking, I use:

1. Speedfan: love it to track my system and CPU temps
2. Speccy: Use it to track everything else; GPU, storage, MB
3. Precision X1 from EVGA: this is another free software I just discovered recently. It helps you govern fan speeds on your GPU.

You and I have basically the same GPU (I have the 2060). I love Precision X1 because I can tell it to not allow the GPU to go above a certain temp. I played Borderlands 2 and noticed the GPU was pushing up to 73 degrees when all my other games run around 60-65 tops. After using Precision, I was able to tell it not to exceed 70, and I notice the fans on the GPU perform better, and it never gets above 70.

 

[CountMike]

any software i should download btw to keep track of my computer? i have CPUID so far and a benchmark one but thats all i have

Install newest chipset drivers from https://www.amd.com/en/support
Install Samsung Magician and drivers from https://www.samsung.com/semiconductor/minisite/ssd/download/tools/
Use Ryzen Master https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master and HWinfo https://www.hwinfo.com/ for diagnostics as all others are widely inaccurate including and particularly Speedfan and Speccy !!!

 

[awnetty]

HWinfo https://www.hwinfo.com/ for diagnostics as all others are widely inaccurate including and particularly Speedfan and Speccy !!!

That's interesting as I've found the exact opposite to be true. Especially to say they're "widely" inaccurate suggests you have an emotional bias towards it. I tested hwinfo on my system and a few others and it had a variance of 10 degrees OVER the actual temps...especially when trying to measure CPU and GPU. Speedfan and Speccy on the other hand will match my BIOS temps within 1-2 degrees. They also report temps consistently with each other and Precision X1.

It's interesting how passionate people are about hwinfo but the data & observations simply don't support that it is a good tool. Most free tools aren't exact, but hwinfo tends to be the most error-prone.

Since all of these tools are free anyway, I would recommend downloading the four mentioned in this post and test them for yourself. You can also look at your BIOS temps and see which software works best for your system.

Beyond that, yes, just make sure your drivers are up to date including the BIOS as I mentioned in my earlier post. Otherwise, enjoy the new build.

 

[drea.drechsler]

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Use Ryzen Master https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/ryzen-master ....

Actually, if you don't know what it's doing even RyzenMaster will appear wildly inaccurate for monitoring temperature and voltage. It's real usefulness is to serious or extreme overclockers as AMD has stated.

HWInfo is actually the only one that's at all accurate but only if you're looking at the right readouts. To my knowledge it's the only utility that reports the SVI2/TFN VCore voltage output by the processor itself through telemetry; that's the only true and accurate readout of instantaneous VCore values internal to the CPU. Other readouts are just motherboard sensors and equally as innaccurate as any other utility will report but provided for completeness. But the really good thing about HWInfo is it receives frequent updates.

I'll never download speedfan; probably undeserved now, but it's a carryover from long ago when it was a popular vector for distributing trojans but that's the way it is. I've used Speccy and didn't like it...it just relied on the same nearly useless motherboard sensors any other utility uses. Maybe changed in updates, but why change from what works?

 

[awnetty]

HWInfo is actually the only one that's at all accurate but only if you're looking at the right readouts

I think this is great advice. In fairness, I personally am not against hwinfo, I just go by what the data shows me. I never heard of speedfan and the Trojan thing, but I guess it depends on where the download comes from. Like anything, it comes down to common sense to ensure you're not downloading from some mirror website that's registered via WhoIs for a whole two days.

I do disagree with "but why change from what works?". I would love to be wrong about it, but the sensors tend to show otherwise across multiple builds. Even this forum is full of people noticing how horrible hwinfo is. But, you could easily argue the same for literally any software monitoring system. Only thing to do is test it for yourself and use logic/data to decide which is best.

 

[CountMike]

HWinfo "Horrible" and Speedfan "good" which world are you coming from ? Speedfan haven't been updated since long time before Ryzen platform came out !!! How the heck would it know about new sensors ?
At this time HWinfo is most accurate for Ryzen platform and has most data of all such applications. It has been updated for most recent HW and sensors and Ryzen PBO and XFR functions.
I haven't seen one example of bad opinion about it here on this forum let alone "full of people noticing how horrible hwinfo is ". That's BS.

 

[awnetty]

That's BS

It's tiring having this argument, I have nothing against hwinfo as a company, but it sucks. Just go ahead and Google it and compare it to physical sensors like BIOS or 3rd party.

https://www.google.com/search?ei=4S...hUKEwjxtuSMpOnmAhVtB50JHQcmAxsQ4dUDCAo&uact=5

Use whatever you feel is right. I only go by data, and the data supports my post, at least on my build.

 

[CountMike]

It's tiring having this argument, I have nothing against hwinfo as a company, but it sucks. Just go ahead and Google it and

https://www.google.com/search?ei=4S...hUKEwjxtuSMpOnmAhVtB50JHQcmAxsQ4dUDCAo&uact=5

Use whatever you feel is right. I only go by data, and the data supports my post, at least on my build.

It's still best for Ryzen. CPUID- Hw Monitor is very wrong with many sensors and doesn't even show which exact sensors it's reading.
Speedfan doesn't even show anything for CPU and MB, only HDDs (not even SSDs) and one GPU sensor, no fans and no speed adjustments, has not been updated in years and even then it wasn't reliable with AMD.
Speccy is total you know what, even reading wrong sensors !!!
"compare it to physical sensors like BIOS or 3rd party." doesn't make any sense. All sensors go thru BIOS but reading them in BIOS is neither here nor there because all sensors are in limbo and unaffected by OS or performance/power saving events.
Ryzen Master is still most competent but tends to equalize temps and voltages with it's longer pooling times. You can shorten pooling times in HWinfo to reflect very minute changes.

 

[drea.drechsler]

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Ryzen Master is still most competent but tends to equalize temps and voltages with it's longer pooling times
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As I understand it, it's not just pooling. It's using some sort of weighted averaging that Martin (the author of HWinfo) has not been able to figure out (at least according to the last I've read from him) and AMD is being just as tight-lipped about as everything else.

And that, to me, is a clue to what is probably the best thing about HWinfo... Martin is an active contributor on the forum on his website. He talks about the problems associated with system monitoring and what the readouts really mean and why motherboard sensor data so often seems strange, or flat out innacurate in worse cases.

EDIT add:

I just saw this quoted about Ryzenmaster's current temperature readout's: "(Ryzenmaster) Report(s) a short-duration rolling average of all temp sensors in the chip. This model will give you a holistic view of what the processor is doing across cores, cache, bus interfaces, etc. It’s the closest any software monitoring tool can come to portraying the true thermal conditions of the chip, and it’s the same model our own Precision Boost 2 algorithm uses to make temperature-related boost decisions."

That sounds very cool but apparently it's not what the BIOS doing when monitoring CPU temperature for setting fan curves, based on the pulsing of fan speeds if the curve is set too tight at low temps.

I think AMD uses that same "short duration rolling average" method to report voltage in Ryzenmaster.

 

[CountMike]

As I understand it, it's not just pooling. It's using some sort of weighted averaging that Martin (the author of HWinfo) has not been able to figure out (at least according to the last I've read from him) and AMD is being just as tight-lipped about as everything else.

And that, to me, is a clue to what is probably the best thing about HWinfo... Martin is an active contributor on the forum on his website. He talks about the problems associated with system monitoring and what the readouts really mean and why motherboard sensor data so often seems strange, or flat out innacurate in worse cases.

EDIT add:

I just saw this quoted about Ryzenmaster's current temperature readout's: "(Ryzenmaster) Report(s) a short-duration rolling average of all temp sensors in the chip. This model will give you a holistic view of what the processor is doing across cores, cache, bus interfaces, etc. It’s the closest any software monitoring tool can come to portraying the true thermal conditions of the chip, and it’s the same model our own Precision Boost 2 algorithm uses to make temperature-related boost decisions."

That sounds very cool but apparently it's not what the BIOS doing when monitoring CPU temperature for setting fan curves, based on the pulsing of fan speeds if the curve is set too tight at low temps.

I think AMD uses that same "short duration rolling average" method to report voltage in Ryzenmaster.

Some motherboards have a function that may be characterized as "Slowing down fan speed changes", my MB has such a thing which really helps against fans speeding up and slowing down suddenly with every temperature change. Ryzen has temperature sensor for every core but only highest temp on hottest core is reported. The rest is used to dynamically adjust core frequencies.