Do you Hate Ipods/Apple/Macs?

[kbits]

Nope, OSX sucks and is crappy and bloated. Almost to the point that its MORE bloated than a pre-installed vista.

Final cut sucks... especially when you compare it to the entire adobe suite with adobe bridge. I saw all these film students across the hall from me using final cut last year on their macbooks. All i did was laugh and show them Adobe Master Collection.

The only "professionals" working with macs are the ones who think macs have better color and sound quality than a PC. CAUTION: the word "professional" in the mac world should be used extremely loosly. Pretty much every mac user thinks of themselves as a "professional"

Ok fair enough. Maybe you're right. I just can't see why.

First what is this "so much more" you can do with the $790 HP that a $1200 iMac can't. We've already clear all the gaming side and the specialized stuff (for which a 790$ HP won't very good anyway). What else?

Also, please explain to me why OSX objectively sucks so much. It shouldn't be hard since it is so bad. Please don't feed me "OSX sucks because Jobs is an ass" or it "it sucks because it is soooo simple it is created for dumb people who can't get to use two button mouse" or the so alike traditionnal bashing. Real solid reasons.

Yet for now I still believe neither PC or Mac are this bad, and neither of them are this good. It's all pros and cons and whats matter to you.

PS. If you prefer Adobe Master Collection, good for you. It is available on Mac anyway so Mac users have the choice, just like PC users have their own alternative in Sony Vegas.

 

[badger101101]

What makes me laugh is how Apple vigorously censors their forums. If a user has trouble with a product, and starts a thread to complain about it, and to see if anyone else has the same problem... the thread mystically disappears.

lol - using Apple products is literally like living in a communist country.

 

[Shadow703793]

^I completely forgot about the censors.
http://www.tomsguide.com/us/apple-censor-leopard,review-1020.html

 

[runswindows95]

Here's the top ten things I can do with an HP that I can't do with a Imac:

1) Actually get the majority of parts to fix it at ANY computer store.
2) Upgrade a few things like the graphics card with a better one, the sound card, add another hard drive, and add another DVD burner.
3) Walk into ANY computer store and find software for it.
4) Walk into ANY computer store and buy ANY printer without worry will it work or not.
5) Have a huge selection of software available and choosing what I want to run on it.
6) Buy ANY game for it and play it. For the record, love playing RISK on my PC.
7) Pick up ANY router for it and not worry will it work or not.
8) Buy a digital camera and know it will work.
9) Buy ANY mp3 player for it and know it will work.
10) Upgrade my monitor at any time I feel like it without having to buy a new machine.

As anyone will notice, 80% of this list is very basic stuff that ANY PC owner will do with a PC.

 

[rushfan]

rockbox doesnt work on newer ipods... and it gets less battery life.

The battery thing bothered me, and the skins weren't anywhere near as elegant and easy on the eyes as the default iPod GUI. The FLAC support and custom EQ were definite pluses, but didn't make up for the overall lack of polish.

Here's another thing that I like about the iPod - it cranks louder than I could ever tolerate, and I listen to it LOUD when I'm working out at the gym. Furthermore, no track on my iPod exceeds 96 dB. I limit gain in order to eliminate clipping. That it has enough power to make my ears bleed despite the "quiet" files it plays is mighty impressive. 😛

 

[kbits]

Here's the top ten things I can do with an HP that I can't do with a Imac:

1) Actually get the majority of parts to fix it at ANY computer store.
2) Upgrade a few things like the graphics card with a better one, the sound card, add another hard drive, and add another DVD burner.
3) Walk into ANY computer store and find software for it.
4) Walk into ANY computer store and buy ANY printer without worry will it work or not.
5) Have a huge selection of software available and choosing what I want to run on it.
6) Buy ANY game for it and play it. For the record, love playing RISK on my PC.
7) Pick up ANY router for it and not worry will it work or not.
8) Buy a digital camera and know it will work.
9) Buy ANY mp3 player for it and know it will work.
10) Upgrade my monitor at any time I feel like it without having to buy a new machine.

As anyone will notice, 80% of this list is very basic stuff that ANY PC owner will do with a PC.

Very good points I think. I was looking at both machine running as is with no issue or upgradability path in mind, but those are real advantage nonetheless and can't be disregard.

For the compatibility issues though, I wouldn't worry too much about mac, especially for digital camera and printer. MP3 might have issues though because of Apple iPod blocus.

 

[Silent_Bob]

As far as Apple goes, I know lots of people who use them. They tend to be the same kind of people who sit in a coffee shop all day "working" on their laptops (read wanting to appear important/cool while contributing nothing to socitey on the whole), or the ones that have trouble operating the velcro on their sneakers without manuals.

I agree with the above post (and previous posts on this topic) especially regarding upgrades. Upgrading a mac is virtually impossible- you have to start from scratch each time! It'd be like trashing your car because the winshield wiper is broken, what a scam.

Regarding the article about mac users: Being in healthcare I read a lot of research papers and full disclosure of the methods used to obtain your results is required in order for your research to see the light of day in any reputable journal. The fact that they don't disclose their methodology is a big red-flag as far as credibility is concerned, as is the fact that they don't cite the source of funding for the study (at least I didn't see it in the brief look I took).

 

[Shadow703793]

Here's the top ten things I can do with an HP that I can't do with a Imac:

1) Actually get the majority of parts to fix it at ANY computer store.
2) Upgrade a few things like the graphics card with a better one, the sound card, add another hard drive, and add another DVD burner.
3) Walk into ANY computer store and find software for it.
4) Walk into ANY computer store and buy ANY printer without worry will it work or not.
5) Have a huge selection of software available and choosing what I want to run on it.
6) Buy ANY game for it and play it. For the record, love playing RISK on my PC.
7) Pick up ANY router for it and not worry will it work or not.
8) Buy a digital camera and know it will work.
9) Buy ANY mp3 player for it and know it will work.
10) Upgrade my monitor at any time I feel like it without having to buy a new machine.

As anyone will notice, 80% of this list is very basic stuff that ANY PC owner will do with a PC.

You also forgot that PCs also have a LOT more free software or a tleast able to D/L from torrent. :lol:

 

[Shadow703793]

As of this post:
92 votes----Yes
37 votes-------No
17 votes------Just the Macs
7vote---------Are you kidding me?!? I love Apple products <==wonder who voted for this :lol:
8 votes--------- Love the OS, Hate the hardware
10 votes-------IPod Rulz!

 

[cnumartyr]

I don't use an Apple products.

 

[Silverion77]

Heres my outlook on Apple

http://youtube.com/watch?v=rw2nkoGLhrE

 

[nkarasch]

I love my ipod, hate the company and the attitude. Would not buy any other apple products even if it could run Crysis at 700 fps

 

[Shadow703793]

^What private potions? You just run a IP blocker + proxy (+ Linux) for total privacy.

 

[Shadow703793]

As of this post:
96 votes----Yes
37 votes-------No
18 votes------Just the Macs
7 vote---------Are you kidding me?!? I love Apple products <==wonder who voted for this :lol: Hope it's not thundrman
8 votes--------- Love the OS, Hate the hardware
10 votes-------IPod Rulz!

 

[spongebob]

I only have three things against my ipod:

1) Forces a gap between tracks - listening to Tool: Lateralus just isn't the same. I think I saw a way to crack the firmware for it but I've been too lazy so far, heh.

Hmmm... I rip with CDex and dl track info from freedb, sometimes using Mp3Tag for cover art. Tracks that play gapless on CD play gapless on my iPod.

 

[spongebob]

7 vote---------Are you kidding me?!? I love Apple products <==wonder who voted for this :lol: Hope it's not thundrman

Nah, Apple doesn't use AMD

 

[rushfan]

iTunes is a great bit of software - if you use it right. I don't think that many people do. The first thing to do is to switch your iPod into Manual mode. In other words, don't make iTunes the boss of everything. This allows you, for one thing, to drag and drop tracks directly from your hard drive onto the iPod. It's just like dragging and dropping into a folder, but better. iTunes allows you to manage your tags, cover art and to search for duplicates. Playlists are a no-brainer to create either.

I have two other mp3 players, including a Sansa e200 and the iPod/iTunes combo is unbeatable, when you know what you're doing.

I'm not trying to negate anybody's opinion, I'm just trying to help those who already have iPods and want to get the most out of them.

 

[spaztic7]

The only issue I ever have with Itunes is the amount of resources it uses.

 

[Black$heep86]

Apples ipods are very good. and thats all i can really say. You see i live in South Africa and the PCs are the main thing here they are nice because you can upgrade then to your hearts content as well and do all the thing a mac can do if not better... Mac has its followers as do PCs fair is fair i guess. One HUGE problem i find is the LACK or support from Mac here in Africa there is no help no passion what so ever from Apple put it this way your Mac pacs up throw it away because there is no help out there for you T.I.A!

 

[slyck]

Hate Apple and their anti-user policy. Everything they sell is overpriced and most is crippled by DRM. The only company I hate more is Sony(and maybe Micro$shaft).

 

[Shadow703793]

Nah, Apple doesn't use AMD

May be they will in the future? :lol:

 

[Shadow703793]

Hate Apple and their anti-user policy. Everything they sell is overpriced and most is crippled by DRM. The only company I hate more is Sony(and maybe Micro$shaft).

Root kit any one?

 

[Shadow703793]

As of this post:
99 votes----Yes <== Almost 100! 😀
38 votes-------No
20 votes------Just the Macs
7 vote---------Are you kidding me?!? I love Apple products <==wonder who voted for this :lol:
8 votes--------- Love the OS, Hate the hardware
10 votes-------IPod Rulz!

 

[yay]

Thanyou KBits for bringing the other side without the %#@& im used to in "discussions".

 

[randomizer]

I hate the company, so I voted Yes (since Apple is a company).