Ex-Microsoft Employee Launches 'Fixing Windows 8' Initiative

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You guys are really stuborn. While I get that some of you find the changes weird for for the worse....it's not like that. Things change. And this time...I must admit it isn't for better, but neither for worse. If that kids dad used Windows, he should have known that he should try some keyboard commands. Alb-Tab? Just pressing the Windows Key?.

I find Metro really fun. I doesn't fit so well in the overall picture, but it does work. And it's also very fast [andstylish I might add]. For laptop users, I only have to say that the Consumer Preview reduced my battery life with 1 hour, compared to Windows 7.
 
It almost seems like they are expecting people to learn two distinctly different interfaces in the same OS:
1- The one with the boxes
2- The one that looks like older versions of Windows without the functionality

Why would you make an OS that is less mouse-friendly? I want all my junk in one place with as few click as necessary. Wouldn't this line of thinking even help simplify the touch interface?
 
Get out of your shells and try it out. My mom barely knows to use a PC/laptop or whatever. She knew the basics to W7 and I just showed her how to get around W8. It is not complicated at all. That kid didn't want to help his father at all, just to prove a point?

If you suck at mathematics without learning anything, that means math is useless?
 
I just don't understand why it isn't blatantly obvious to the Microsoft staff that this OS design is a horrible idea in every way you look at it. I've been testing it since the first developer preview and was praying that they would come to their senses and change EVERYTHING about it before its too late. For tablets, GREAT, I see the value there, but for users with a KEYBOARD and MOUSE, you know Microsoft? you DO sell such devices...its absolutely inefficient in every way. It's actually a giant leap backwards in advancement. How is reading TEXT and a colored tile better than a unique icon that people come to recognize instantly, even if the icon is upside down! Now they have to slowly scan through all these colored tiles reading the names of the app they want. Absolutely horrible. Why not progress the Icon, which hasn't even come close to its full potential. Add animation to icons to make them even more recognizable? Stuff like that, dont destroy all the great features that make Windows what it is (Start menu, min/max windows, close windows with "X" etc etc).

Can't wait to see Microsoft go down for this
 
Or perhaps Microsoft's Pentium 4? They'll push it for a while before going back and starting again from Windows 7, just as Intel returned to the Pentium 3 architecture to create the Intel Core series of processors.

Windows 8 with a compulsory Metro (or even with Metro by default) will be a commercial disaster. Corporates will reject it utterly and consumers will switch to Mac (hell, even this MS fanboi is considering an OSX future).

Release Windows 8 with a standard desktop by default and a Metro 'mode' and you *might* convert the masses over a few years. If not, dump it (like you dumped Active Desktop - remember that?) and stick to what you know.

One other thing - where's Media Center gone?
 
If you don't press the start button, it seems like a faster windows7.
My main issue is apps running in Metro aren't accessible from the taskbar and open desktop items aren't quickly accessed from the metroUI. They have the two pretty much running separately. If they did something so we didn't have two different list of open apps i'd be happy with it... until then i just don't press start.
 
Also, one thing seems to be omited every time, in every article about Windows 8

You don't absolutely need a WINDOWS LIVE or Hotmail ID.

I could use my Yahoo! ID or even my Opera mail. So maybe it works with others too.
 
Has anyone seen a screenshot of what Windows 8 looks like once you install all your personal applications? Well, they definitely don't have pretty little tiles like all the default tiles do. I installed over 25 programs and I was left with PAGES and PAGES of grey generic tiles with a "X" in the middle. They all looked the same! How is that better than an ICON?! Not to mention they were literally in no specific order at all, I had MSWORD on one page, then EXCEL on another page in the middle somewhere. Absolutely insane. As a Network Admin, I cannot imagine less knowledgeable consumers trying to operate this, will be much worse than the video above.
 
[citation][nom]stephenkendrick[/nom]One other thing - where's Media Center gone?[/citation]

It's still there. I tried it yesterday. It's identical to the one in Windows 7, so...

Just Open the Metro Screen (Windows Key) or the Charms Bar (Windows+C) and just start typing. The "Search" function is seamesly integrated.
 
[citation][nom]tiang[/nom]Microsoft better fixes all or else will lost all the senior users![/citation]

It will loose more than just the senior users...
 
I am not against the new interface, but I find that most of the time my main complaint is that I there is not enough options. I would like to be prompted at installation something like: "Do you want to use the new and awesome metro interface (default) or the old and boring GUI".
I know they don't do it because everyone would just keep the old things but still... I find that software often lacks options!
I am going to go on stage full of sweat stains on my shirt and scream "OPTIONS, OPTIONS, OPTIONS!!!!!"
 
It was like this for every version of windows to some degree.

When XP came out I had a hatred for it and insisted I'd be staying with windows 98 SE.

When Vista came out I had a hatred for it and I still do!

When 7 came out I had a small initial dislike for it but now it is my OS of choice
(with XP, the latest ubuntu, and Lion all more or less tied in second)

Windows 8 does not look like it will be for me at all. I will be using it and trying it out
but I will not be making any long term change overs for quite a while. Seems they
have some issues to sort out.
 
[citation][nom]cryio[/nom]Also, one thing seems to be omited every time, in every article about Windows 8You don't absolutely need a WINDOWS LIVE or Hotmail ID.I could use my Yahoo! ID or even my Opera mail. So maybe it works with others too.[/citation]

So your saying that your fine with the fact that you literally need to log into your computer with an Email address, and have network connectivity. Have you tried it? It takes 3 times as long as a local user account would. Not to mention this is going to be a NIGHTMARE to support in the workplace, let alone at home for new users.
 
That video speaks volumes. Just when the older generation was starting to get into PCs and technology, they come up with this. I mean, the dad had a clue of what he was trying to get to, but it just wasn't there and it wasn't intuitive enough to help him.
I don't know why this guy is not a Microsoft employee anymore, but if it has something to do with this, then Ms is in for a rude awakening. If they start going the Apple path ("my way or the highway", says the CEO and everybody has to bow down) they will soon realize that Windows users are not the sheeple they expect them to be. Add this to the fact that corporations are very innovation-unfriendly and conservative with regard of the interface and OS they're using and you have a perfect recipe for disaster.
 
You can create a local user account during installation by skipping the network set up step
really...
its an option...
and it logs in really quickly into that local account too!
and the whole "control userpasswords2" trick also works so you can boot straight into your local account.
 
Now now... settle down. Switching from Windows 3.X to Windows 95 was really scary as well. We survived! I'm sure we will survive the change to Windows 8. ;p

 
I like to think of Windows 8 as an experiment. Companies like MS need to take these type of risks in order to stay alive. W7 is the best OS I've ever used and is incredibly stable for me and looks nice but MS can't keep dishing out the same OS over and over, they have to play around once in a while. If W8 looked the same you would all be complaining how it's the same OS Windows 7 is but with an 8 instead of a 7 instead of Metro. It's a confusing UI but it takes time getting used to and some learning, we'll have to see if the average user is willing to do that.
 
OMG

i had to use alt+f4 to close pin ball how pathetic is that
what were they thinking..im a advanced/power user but not a hacker kind of guy.. i do find it difficult to use it.
This is definitely not for KB and mouse environment and what's more pathetic is that ms plans to dominate the tab wars with this OS which will surely an epic fail
 
All these bloody idiots whining their butt off about something no one is forcing them to buy, not to mention is a consumer preview. a BETA. so shush, go home, do something useful with your life.
 
Give me a Start button, a quick launch toolbar and a clean desktop. I hate having lots of icons on my desktop. Those big squares are just icons in a new, uglier shape. Now i got more incentive to learn linux.
 
[citation][nom]jlats26[/nom]Has anyone seen a screenshot of what Windows 8 looks like once you install all your personal applications? Well, they definitely don't have pretty little tiles like all the default tiles do. I installed over 25 programs and I was left with PAGES and PAGES of grey generic tiles with a "X" in the middle. They all looked the same! How is that better than an ICON?! Not to mention they were literally in no specific order at all, I had MSWORD on one page, then EXCEL on another page in the middle somewhere. Absolutely insane. As a Network Admin, I cannot imagine less knowledgeable consumers trying to operate this, will be much worse than the video above.[/citation]


Here, here, sit right down, drink this glass of water, it's ok, son, it's ok. It was just a nightmare, luckily, your old software isn't going anywhere, you have Windows 7. It's ok, there..
 
[citation][nom]jlats26[/nom]I just don't understand why it isn't blatantly obvious to the Microsoft staff that this OS design is a horrible idea in every way you look at it.[/citation]Several years ago I came across a statement from M$ in relation to their development efforts:

We at Microsoft always like to think we can improve on a standard.
Click to expand...

Personally, I think that still sums up M$. "Standards" are made to be reinvented, according to them, and in doing so, they demonstrate that they fail to understand the purpose of a standard.

My bet is that 8 will be the next release in a history of M$ O$' that no one wants or needs.
 
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