Ladies and gentlemen, here it is in its full glory.
Looks like we will have a new and improved heat sink.
Thanks to MSI for such a beauty.
Looks like we will have a new and improved heat sink.
Thanks to MSI for such a beauty.
Exactly. So what's the point of the topic? Sharing some photo gallery?hmm, I don't think anyone knows how it performs...
This might mean that AMD is on the track with M2, AM2 transition...
I'm begining to suspect that there's some kind of intention behind those pointless comments of yours... Is there?
Once more this sentence validates my statement in some other thread that AMD is free to launch their AM2 infrastructure any time they want, but once more, they don't need to because current processors are still competitive with Intel's offrerings.
Bullshit! If they could release it on time, they would and gain market share...
There are solid reasons why it is being pushed back, obviously it is problems due to design, trying to hurry as fast as they can reasonably go to get it ready for mainstream... and the more delays, the more the indicators are that something is not right...
Personally, the use of "because they can" as the reason for the AM2 delay doesn't seem reasonable. The problem with the reason is the fact that the AM2 delay puts its launch right on top of the Merom family launch.
Have you read that Inquirer article you posted?The board you've seen in the link is functional and ready to ship.
The operative words are "almost" and "sort of". It isn't ready to ship yet.SOCKET M2 or AM2 motherboards are almost done. At least MSI has sort of finished its one.
If OEMs were getting final chips, then maybe the AM2 platform would be nearly ready to ship. As it stands, OEM's haven't even received samples yet and won't until the end of the month, meaning they have no chips to go with their "sort of finished" motherboards. With OEMs not having all the pieces until the end of February, they would have very little time to integrate all the parts together, test for stability, design systems, build them, and prepare marketing. This is no doubt why a late March launch and April availability was unlikely and therefore postponed.Sources close to AMD's plan said that Socket M samples are likely to be delivered to its OEM (original equipment manufacturing) customers as early as late February.
If AM2 had a large performance gap over Conroe and a significant lead in power consumption and heat then it would be a viable spoiler. As it is, if AM2 has the lead it will be fairly small, meaning it won't have much wow factor. It may be a good alternative, but it's doubtful it will come across as a replacement. Making AM2 a spoiler also requires good marketing, however, like a said in my original post, if Intel decides to pump millions into marketing its next-generation families, which is likely considering the changes in every segment, AMD may not be heard above all the noise and buzz.AMD will use AM2 as a spoiler for Intel's launch of their new processor.
Yes, I've read it.Have you read that Inquirer article you posted?
Are you sure about that statement??? 8)OEM's haven't seen the processors yet anyways.
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AMD will use AM2 as a spoiler for Intel's launch of their new processor.
If AM2 had a large performance gap over Conroe and a significant lead in power consumption and heat then it would be a viable spoiler. As it is, if AM2 has the lead it will be fairly small, meaning it won't have much wow factor. It may be a good alternative, but it's doubtful it will come across as a replacement. Making AM2 a spoiler also requires good marketing, however, like a said in my original post, if Intel decides to pump millions into marketing its next-generation families, which is likely considering the changes in every segment, AMD may not be heard above all the noise and buzz.
Why do you believe that??I know people may not care much for my opinion...
thanks for the info when i get 1 hundred post's ill show some nice pics of am2 and f sockets and proc's
tou know with a name like bull shitter i don't think i can trust you lol
I don't believe, that at any point I said that "I know the reason why AMD isn't releasing their M2's". (It should be AM2, btw, hopefully that correction doesn't come across as arrogant). What I was giving is "my opinion" on why the AMD postponed AM2 because it can reason doesn't make sense. I specifically used the words "my opinion" at the beginning of the original post. I'm not sure how you got the words "I know", especially when the original post ended with an open question. I believe my reasoning was very clear in the post and Bullshitter and I have been debating this for quite some time. I would hope I'm not misconveying myself to him."I know the reason why AMD isn't releasing their M2's"
As for that line, yes it was quoted from an article by The Inquirer. I know that The Inquirer may not be the most reliable source, however in that case the article I was using was one Bullshitter himself posted on this forum. If he can use that article then I would expect that he generally believes in it's information and since I am replying to him anyways there is no reason why we can't debate over that common ground.OEM's haven't even seen M2 socket CPU's yet
For this you will have to be more specific, since I can't back up my claims or admit I'm at fault without knowing what specific information I talked about.The architecture of this CPU is designed like this and done like this because of this reason
Again, I was just requoting from the same article he himself used to present the motherboard with. Seeing Bullshitter's latest post, we disagree over the interpretation, but there's nothing wrong with that.That M2 MSI motherboard isn't ready yet
Maybe I do, but I would hope my professional tone comes off better then some other people's run-on sentences and mad rants. When I respond to people's problems, I think they feel a little better when I seem sure of what I am saying. That doesn't mean I can't be wrong of course, and anyone can feel free to correct me.you talk too professional and come off a little arrogant
I hope I'm a little of both. I don't want to sound all philosophical or even more "arrogant", but it just wouldn't be fun otherwise.Maybe you know everything, maybe you know nothing,