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Ok guys ,I'm back up to #8 producer ,which means somebody(s) is slacking big time.
If you need help or replacement parts ,I'm sure one of us can help out.
This is a team. And a team effort. We all deride each other in jest, but we are a team.

Congrats to everyone on our 5 million point day and another notch up to #42. !!!!!!!!
at this pace we will pass a few more teams shortly.
Keep up the great work. :)

 
I am going to fire up the GPUs again now that it is getting cooler out.

I have been in and out of the top 20 lately. That is good because it takes a lot more PPD to make the list than it did when I started.

I may have to upgrade to an R9 280X if the prices work out to $300ish. Should be less power (heat) and considerably more PPD than my current setup. It should crack 90k right?
 
It is the same as a 7970 at 1Ghz, which should be between 93-100k, and of course could be OCed for more.

Though you might be able to find a 7970 a little cheaper right now and get the full never settle game bundle.
 

I've powered down for a bit because of the power cost but I'll be back when it gets colder around here.
 
I'm considering an upgrade too, but AMD have caught me in a bit of a pickle here. My previous object of desire was the HD 7950, but they're not introducing a real replacement for it.
I'd prefer a little more than the R9 270X / 7870 (even more so since the 270X isn't impressive in performance per dollar), but the 280X is just a bit of a stretch for my wallet and gaming needs. They're making both a 290 and a 290X, why can't they make a plain 280? 🙁

PS: Mousemonkey, one word - Pitcairn. 😀
 


You mean Curacao surely?
 
Howdy Y'all!

I'm looking for ideas to change the Chimp Challenge, into a cooperative teams race or effort, of some kind, instead of a team vs. team format. The main reason is that I see no way to make the race "fair", or even close to it, when we have teams whose folders are earning millions of points per day. (for example, Brilong is currently folding 9 Million+ points per day)

We did not have time to make all the changes needed before the last CC, but we do have time now, if we get working on it.

I'd like to do some brainstorming with you clever guys (and other teams as well) for ideas, and see which of them have a good vibe to them. No idea is a bad one! The more we have to consider, the more likely we can find a good idea for the next race.

Any idea's? What would you like to see in a cooperative multi-team effort?

 

Well, there is always a handicapping system like they use in sports. I think they use the same system in European Football as they do in American Football, Golf, Horse racing, and other sports so everyone should understand how it works without any problem. Remember, it's not who wins or loses, it's the point spread... 😀

Perhaps you can even come up with some sort of "Tote Board" page that everyone can watch during the contest to see where everyone stands raw points wise and then with their handicap included.

There are 3 basic ways to do this:

1) Calculate how many points each team should earn during the challenge from the teams history and give each team points at the beginning to make the end total come out even for everybody. This makes the weakest team in first position at the start and the strongest team last at the start. It then becomes a contest of holding off the team behind you or catching the team in front. There is a bit of an excitement factor there. :bounce:

2) Calculate a performance percentage for each team based on it's performance over the last few months with the strongest team given a handicap factor of 1, and each trailing team given a handicap factor based on how much poorer it is as compared to the leading team. Each team has it's true points multiplied by it's handicap factor to arrive at its handicapped race points. The total handicapped points determines the winner. This gives the team with above average participation during the race a clear advantage over the others and provides a sort of neck and neck horse race feel during the entire race. 😉

3) A combination of 1 and 2 above. This would be fairly complex and a formula would have to be carefully thought out but it has the advantage of being exciting like 1 and more representative of the relative performance like #2. In my opinion the best choice though the more difficult to figure out and explain to the teams.😍

It's too bad we can't bet on the outcome. If we could we could use some sort of Parimutuel system like used in horse races to determine handicapping.:no:

Bill
 


Sadly, while I'm decent at spreading news and pretty good at following the rules of things...

I'm horrible at altering the rules or creating new idea's to make things fair.....


Although to help generate more idea's, I have mentioned your question to the Linus Tech Tips team for there input as well.

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/64730-upcoming-chimp-challenge-idea-changes/
 


Sorry, can't think of a reason why it's doing that...

Maybe something will come to mind later but I got nothing.
 
@bHolland2:
The handicapping system I used last year, was a simplified system based on horse racing handicapping (your #2 above). I agree that staggered starts are a fun way to race - definitely!

But right now, I'm trying to find a cooperative team event/race format that could be fun, as well.

@king smp: You have the v7 control program working, but not the interface, fully. Check your slots to be sure the gpu's are starting at 0, with the cpu slot numbers, higher.

I'd also download a newer version, and re-install. They've been finding and killing bugs in the v7 software, right and left. Be sure all the old version is gone before you re-install.

@warmon6
Thanks for taking my post over to LinusTechTips. I was looking for their bookmark.

Thanks for any and all help on these cooperative event/race ideas. I'm drawing a blank on how this could work, so far.





 

Yah, you were having the fahcontrol.exe error before, weren't you?
These problems are always caused by errors in the binary in RAM.
There are 4 basic things that can cause that sort of problem.
They are:
1) A bad/scrambled exe file (we tried that, that wasn't it)
2) Data being scrambled as it is loaded into RAM from the disk.
3) RAM failing and corrupting its data.
4) Your power supply just barely deals with the load and sometimes drops too low.

The problem has to be 2) , 3), or 4) since we already tried 1).
Here is what I suggest first. Remove the CPU overclock and see how it does for a couple of days. Remember, when you overclock your CPU you are also overclocking your RAM and there may be a spot on your RAM that won't take that speed. Also, overclocking increases the clock to the disk controller and it may not be able to take it. Thirdly, overclocking places more stress on the power supply. I have experienced all 3 of these problems in the past. All this depends on what board you have. So, lets check out the overclocking first, just because it's stable doesn't mean it's going to work and just because your power supply was enough last week doesn't mean it is enough now, they deteriorate over time.

You know, I just recalled an issue that sometimes occurs in the fall. The computer is placed in a location where hot air from the furnace or a heater causes it to run hotter than it did during the summer when the air conditioning was on. Could that have something to do with your situation? It's a little odd but I have actually run into it twice in the past.

There is actually an even more rare problem that can be going on but, lets try the more likely stuff first.

Anyway, remove the overclock and see if the machine becomes stable and we'll go from there.

Bill

P.S. "@king smp: You have the v7 control program working, but not the interface, fully. Check your slots to be sure the gpu's are starting at 0, with the cpu slot numbers, higher."

Oh yah, I forgot about that one. I was thinking strictly hardware because of the original problem.
 
@adak

It is hard to get a all round fair result. But I think it needs to go back to raising awareness and getting people to join. How did the result go down with the other teams last year. For the tiered levels it seemed pretty fair.

@ Everyone else, randomly my computer crashes when the monitor wakes from sleep. I have F@H set to idle. It happened before, I have done a clean install onto an SSD, updated the mobo bios. (I might check the chipset drivers for updates). Apart from that any ideas?
 

I had a few of those.
I never found a good fix.
My solution is to set the computer to never sleep/hibernate/turn off hard drives or monitor.
When I an done on the computer I turn the monitor off.
I fold on both video cards and cpu, so power saving solutions are pointless with everything folding 24/7/365.

 
Okay I should be back at full folding status
I had to reinstall windows 7 yesterday on my 1100T/660Ti rig since the advanced view didnt work plus I was getting half of the PPD I usually get
now seems to be working fine <fingers crossed>
 


Good to hear you got it sorted out.
I have the urge to upgrade, but with all of the problems people have been having lately, I figure just let it run until I have to upgrade.
 
I just had a weird idea. Could I enable my motherboard's iGPU (HD 3300 or something as sad) and fold with it or do I have to downgrade my Catalyst driver for that?
 
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