Question Frametime spikes and stuttering on an AMD setup ?

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HI,
i have this amd rig for 2 years now, and ever since i can remember i have a lot of stutters in games. I have tried pretty much everything but to no avail. The one thing that i tried that vastly improved the experience, was to cap my games using blurbusters guide for smooth gameplay( vsync off in game+wait for vsync on always in adrenaline+ freesync on in the driver)


Things to notice:
  1. I use capframex with rivatuner to monitor my settings;they run in the background
  2. i undervolted my gpu and cpu using pbo2 and co (-30 all cores)
  3. i use two separate gpu cables to connect to the psu
  4. i use a wireless xbox remote controller to play all the games
  5. i am on xmp profile 2 in bios


i am not entirely up to date on the mobo bios version and the chipset drivers; also i am on version 24.5.1 of amd adrenanile software. The temps and everything seem to be more than fine; I don´t know what to do...

Can someone help me with a step by step guide on how to achieve the smoothest gameplay experience possible with my setup?

Thank you

https://imgur.com/a/uEm9IFA
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here are a couple of examples of the issue irl:

https://imgur.com/a/Q7qHVyx
View: https://imgur.com/a/Q7qHVyx


https://imgur.com/a/xj9UrrY
View: https://imgur.com/a/xj9UrrY
 
Hi,
1. Have you updated/uninstalled drivers for the GPU. It may help to uninstall the gpu drivets totally and do a clean install(not update) of the latest gpu drivers.
2. Is each game running on high/maximun graphics settings within the game?
3. Why is the hardware underclocked?
4. Check the percentages/perfomance stats in the Task Manager too.
Cheers.
 
KingLoki said:
Hi,
1. Have you updated/uninstalled drivers for the GPU. It may help to uninstall the gpu drivets totally and do a clean install(not update) of the latest gpu drivers.
2. Is each game running on high/maximun graphics settings within the game?
3. Why is the hardware underclocked?
4. Check the percentages/perfomance stats in the Task Manager too.
Cheers.
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Hi, thanks for answering.

1.no i haven't, i AM a few versions behind.

2. Yes all are at The maximum settings excepto Witcher 3.

3. Its bit underclocked but undervolted.

4.how do i do that irl while gaming? I never really know how to interpret those status.
 
Hey there,

It's very possible you have an unstable undervolt/underclock with either CPU or GPU. Run everything at stock, and only use XMP for ram. Same issue?

PauloSilva93 said:
4.how do i do that irl while gaming? I never really know how to interpret those status.
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You are already doing this with your on screen overlay. Just add in the CPU metrics too. You are looking for anything that may be pegged at 100% usage all of the time, which may correlate with your stuttering. Task manager is basic for this. Use HWinfo to monitor your system.

Your bios is not the most recent, so it's worth updating that, as it could also be a bios related issue.

Are all system drivers including chipset up to date?
 
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Check event viewer for Whea errors. -30 across the board is pretty aggressive. Best to go -15 to -20 on the preferred cores.

But to test first disable all background software.

If issues persist remove the CPU underclock and then GPU if issues still continue...

Assuming bios is up to date, ram tests ok, storage isn't close to full, temps ok.
 
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Roland Of Gilead said:
You are already doing this with your on screen overlay. Just add in the CPU metrics too. You are looking for anything that may be pegged at 100% usage all of the time, which may correlate with your stuttering. Task manager is basic for this. Use HWinfo to monitor your system.
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Sorry i am still a noob até this, how exactly do i do this? I already monitor The stats with capframex on screen overlay. I also have hwinfo64 . Can you explain more? Thanks you
 
PauloSilva93 said:
Sorry i am still a noob até this, how exactly do i do this? I already monitor The stats with capframex on screen overlay. I also have hwinfo64 . Can you explain more? Thanks you
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So for the CPU stats, you should be able to toggle the ones you need on or off and athem to the overlay. Then just watch for anything running at 100%. Your GPU running at 100% is fine, as this is expected when gaming.

HWInfo is very good for accurate measurements of your components. You can ALT-Tab out of a game while playing and look at the HWInfo screen to see what speeds your CPU is hitting, or voltage is too high, among many other things.
 
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PauloSilva93 said:
but if i don´t have the overlay with the frametime graph i won't know if the stutters occur or not.
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Yes, this is true. But then you can't be 100% sure it's not the overlay causing the issue. Overlays can ping your CPU (polling rate) many times a second.

Turn the overlay off, play the game, and 'feel' if it's better or worse. You have to try it to be sure.

Maybe try MSi afterburner instead.
 
Roland Of Gilead said:
Yes, this is true. But then you can't be 100% sure it's not the overlay causing the issue. Overlays can ping your CPU (polling rate) many times a second.

Turn the overlay off, play the game, and 'feel' if it's better or worse. You have to try it to be sure.

Maybe try MSi afterburner instead.
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Hi, i tried The games without capframex and riva tuner, and on One off The games i felt no stutters on The other i felt a few , but i AM not sure on either case because its may just be a feeling . Care to wheigh in your thoughts? Thanks you
 
Stuttering is usually caused by a temporary lack of a critical resource.
Usually CPU.
You may have higher priority tasks running that are stealing cpu from your game.

It occurs to me that if you can't detect stuttering without some sort of a monitor, then perhaps it is not such a big problem.
 
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geofelt said:
Stuttering is usually caused by a temporary lack of a critical resource.
Usually CPU.
You may have higher priority tasks running that are stealing cpu from your game.

It occurs to me that if you can't detect stuttering without some sort of a monitor, then perhaps it is not such a big problem.
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Thats The issue, i can't BE sure
 
Roland Of Gilead said:
And what res do you game on, native?

What happens when you use vsync/gsync/freesync? Still choppy? Also, why are you capping at 60fps?
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Native 1440p. I have freesync on in The driver and in The monitor Controller. I have a smooth experience 95% of The time but Then a big Spike happens thats totally breaks The immersion. I CAP at 60 FPS in order to have a smoother experience as per this blurbustersguide to smooth gameplay.
 
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PauloSilva93 said:
Native 1440p. I have freesync on in The driver and in The monitor Controller. I have a smooth experience 95% of The time but Then a big Spike happens thats totally breaks The immersion. I CAP at 60 FPS in order to have a smoother experience as per this blurbustersguide to smooth gameplay.
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Yes, but if you cap at 60, and your 1% lows are lower than 48, you will have serious stutters. You have a 6800XT. You need to unleash that puppy, and get some gaming goodness going. I bet you have very low GPU usage?

This is what I would do.

Set freesync (VRR/Adaptive Sync) on. Uncap your games/system. At native 1440p, your GPU is strong enough to push high FPS in those games. Limiting the GPU FPS does not make for a better gaming experience when you have a strong GPU. I don't know why blurbusters would suggest holding back a system like yours. By letting your games/fps run faster the gaming will be smoother, and along with freesync should be very smooth.

I'm struggling to understand why at 60fps cap, your 1% lows are dropping down so much. It shouldn't really be like that at such low FPS. But anyway, try the above ^
 
Just to illustrate:

You're gaming at 60fps cap, with 1% lows of mid 30's, this causes/feels like stutter. If for example, you are running the game with no cap, and you're hitting 140fps, with 1% lows of 100fps, which do you think would be smoother? The answer is the latter. To have good in game smoothness when panning from side to side or up or down, your 1% lows need to be above 60fps. This is considered like a baseline for game smoothness. So with the 140fps high/100fps 1% low, your game 'feels' smooth. I hope that help you to see the relationship.

I probably didn't explain that at all well.
 
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Roland Of Gilead said:
Yes, but if you cap at 60, and your 1% lows are lower than 48, you will have serious stutters. You have a 6800XT. You need to unleash that puppy, and get some gaming goodness going. I bet you have very low GPU usage?

This is what I would do.

Set freesync (VRR/Adaptive Sync) on. Uncap your games/system. At native 1440p, your GPU is strong enough to push high FPS in those games. Limiting the GPU FPS does not make for a better gaming experience when you have a strong GPU. I don't know why blurbusters would suggest holding back a system like yours. By letting your games/fps run faster the gaming will be smoother, and along with freesync should be very smooth.

I'm struggling to understand why at 60fps cap, your 1% lows are dropping down so much. It shouldn't really be like that at such low FPS. But anyway, try the above ^
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But all games with the exception of w3 are hard locked at 60fps...
 
Roland Of Gilead said:
Yes, but if you cap at 60, and your 1% lows are lower than 48, you will have serious stutters. You have a 6800XT. You need to unleash that puppy, and get some gaming goodness going. I bet you have very low GPU usage?

This is what I would do.

Set freesync (VRR/Adaptive Sync) on. Uncap your games/system. At native 1440p, your GPU is strong enough to push high FPS in those games. Limiting the GPU FPS does not make for a better gaming experience when you have a strong GPU. I don't know why blurbusters would suggest holding back a system like yours. By letting your games/fps run faster the gaming will be smoother, and along with freesync should be very smooth.

I'm struggling to understand why at 60fps cap, your 1% lows are dropping down so much. It shouldn't really be like that at such low FPS. But anyway, try the above ^
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But all games with the exception of w3 are hard locked at 60fps
Roland Of Gilead said:
All games? Which ones do you mean? If they are hard locked there isn't much you can do. It is an option to edit game .ini files to increase the FPS or take off the hardlock. So that could be an option.
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One piece pirate warriors and jump force are hard locked to 60fps, Witcher 3 is uncapped and it still stutters. I will try that. Thank you
 
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