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A comparison between on-board sound and a sound card:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/08/13/intel/page11.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/08/13/intel/page11.html
Finally, someone is over exaggerating the benefits of a dedicated soundcard. The only real benefit gained from a dedicated soundcard is the improved sound quality.
hmm, although i never buy a soundcard for FPS increases i am willing to help test this regardless iof the test accuracy.
one thing that i am not sure that has been mentioned though and one reason why i doubt the accuracy of any testing is the amount of processing that is done by each sound device.
as i'm sure most people know, anything but creative's cards are limited at eax 2.0.
now the thing that worries me is that a soundcard in new games will be using eax 4.0 or 5.0.
i am not sure how much more processing power it takes between 4 or 5 and 2 but i do know it should be quite a bit as the newer ones support more environmental sound such as bleding between rooms or environments if that is the rightw ay to put it and also how much individual sounds can be heard.
so i am not sure if i would need old games which don't use more than 2.0 or if i can limit the eax version used in some games.
wouldn't mind hearing others view on this. will the eax version affect the amount of processing enough to muddy the waters.
Finally, someone is over exaggerating the benefits of a dedicated soundcard. The only real benefit gained from a dedicated soundcard is the improved sound quality.
Depends entirely on what game you are talking about. That's why people say some games are "CPU Limited" VS "GPU Limited".I have to call BS, switching to a much faster CPU shows very little gains in framerate once resolution goes up, the bottleneck is not the CPU but the GPU. Offloading a little bit of work from the CPU is not going to give a 15% increase in framerates unless you're running at 640x480, in which case it shouldn't matter. That being said dedicated sound cards do have an impact (though very minor) and the sound quality is usually better, so an ultimate gaming rig should definitely include one.
G’day I’m from aus here and I’ve been reading from THG for quite sometime now , I often see some of you wankers say crap about having a sound card doesn’t improve at all which is a load of BS. I recently brought a XFI and I play games at 12801024 and there is improvement in my FPS. Even my GF could notice the difference. I often wonder if any of you guys have even owned a sound card before you say your 2cents. It’s like you have a voice with nothing to back it up. You don’t even address people’s problems correctly in some forms, you just say buy this…hardly anything else….Anyhow this is my
first say in THG and the whole form deal.
I've always used SoundBlaster cards in the few PCs I've owned over the years. Onboard sound has always been kinda crappy to me. However, I think performance loss would be small if using a very fast single core CPU, or any dual core CPU. I'm guessing the 15% loss in performance would be for older systems with slow CPUs.
HehePeople who spend a lot of money on overclocking represent a minority of geeks. Most people either don't know about all those beautiful ways of wasting time and money, or figure out that money is better invested on one important upgrade from time to time than small, sometimes psychological and often risky "tweaks".
What bothers me with your initial statement is that it sounds like "no wonder you're getting bad framerates, you're using onboard sound". That's like saying "no wonder you're getting bad framerates, you're not even overclocking the hell out of your rig".
Why are you guys using synthetic benchies? Why not use real games?
i have gained about 2fps more in doom 3, 5fps more in CSS source, and about 6 fps more in quake 3 using the same gfx drivers.
hmm, although i never buy a soundcard for FPS increases i am willing to help test this regardless iof the test accuracy.
Please don't tell me you're using a synthetic benchmark to measure the performance improvement of adding a dedicated soundcard. :lol:Yeah, installing that X-Fi sounds card only boosted my 3dmark06 score from 6350 to 6580. Not a big jump in performance at all. :roll:
Yea, that was a real good post you dolt :roll:A very impressive entry! Welcome to the forumz, brother. It is nice to see someone who speaks his mind without being unnecessarily "politically correct" in a very annoying true-blue mannerKeep it up and don't let anyone force you to second-guess every word you say. Again, welcome.
Good to see another aussie hereG’day I’m from aus here and I’ve been reading from THG for quite sometime now , I often see some of you wankers say crap about having a sound card doesn’t improve at all which is a load of BS. I recently brought a XFI and I play games at 12801024 and there is improvement in my FPS. Even my GF could notice the difference. I often wonder if any of you guys have even owned a sound card before you say your 2cents. It’s like you have a voice with nothing to back it up. You don’t even address people’s problems correctly in some forms, you just say buy this…hardly anything else….Anyhow this is my first say in THG and the whole form deal.
P.S I'm only 21 and i can even notice how full of crap some of you guys are.
Lol good point, why is it here anyway?This thread belongs in the freakin' sound card forum anyways....it has nothing to do with graphics cards :roll:
If he paid no attention to them then where would the debate be? No debate = one-sided point of view and possibly misleading/false info.Nice thread Slava. Don't pay attention to the people that don't believe the increase in performance, they just dont have a damn clue what they are talking about.