Question Games run poorly on Good system after fresh install. (3700x plus 3070ti)

[Billybob37]

I have a 3700x 3070ti system that I built for my girlfriend. It has 3200 16g vengeance ram, 700 watt thermaltake smart, Gigabyte A520M AORUS ELITE, 1 Terabyte NVME.

Everything seems to be working fine until I try and run games. It tells me the frames are really high but the games feel terrible. The screen tears when moving around fast and in some games some pretty annoying frame drops.

Her monitor is 1080p 144 MSI.

Confused why it doesn’t work very well, seeing as it was my old computer with a fresh windows instal.

Things I have tried:
I updated all drivers and chipsets(I think)
I updated Bios
I did many many fresh windows installs, even tried windows 10.

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Gigabyte A520M AORUS ELITE
+
I updated Bios
What BIOS version are you on for your motherboard? Did you clear the CMOS after you'd verified the BIOS was flashed to the latest version?

700 watt thermaltake smart
Thermaltake have a number of PSU under the Smart lineup, which one do you have and how old is the PSU? I wouldn't have paired an RTX3070 Ti with that PSU in the build.

I did many many fresh windows installs, even tried windows 10.
Where did you source the installer for the OS? Did you install the OS in offline mode, to later install all drivers with the latest versions relevant to your platform in an elevated command, while disconnected from the internet?

 

[Billybob37]

Hey! Thanks for the fast reply!!

Bios: F17D 09/02/2024
Did not clear CMOS.

Yeah not the best power supply, bought in 2020. Worked perfectly with this build for 4ish years though.

I took it from the online download and put it on a flash drive. I installed Online, not offline. Only have the one drive.

 

[beyondlogic]

I have a 3700x 3070ti system that I built for my girlfriend. It has 3200 16g vengeance ram, 700 watt thermaltake smart, Gigabyte A520M AORUS ELITE, 1 Terabyte NVME.

Everything seems to be working fine until I try and run games. It tells me the frames are really high but the games feel terrible. The screen tears when moving around fast and in some games some pretty annoying frame drops.

Her monitor is 1080p 144 MSI.

Confused why it doesn’t work very well, seeing as it was my old computer with a fresh windows instal.

Things I have tried:
I updated all drivers and chipsets(I think)
I updated Bios
I did many many fresh windows installs, even tried windows 10.

700 watts smart thermal take fire hazard. Replace that with a better PSU like a seasonic focus 750w.

That PSU isn't suited to power that hardware effectively.

Power supplys lose efficiency over years the PSU is 4 years in as well.

Also under display and GPU turn off GPU acceleration as some games hate this and it plays havoc with Nvidia

 

[Zerk2012]

It has 3200 16g vengeance ram

Is that 2X set of 8GB, set to 3200, and in the correct slots 2 & 4 going away from the processor?
Download OCCT and run the CPU stress test, and video card stress test, what are the temps of both? You can also run the power supply test.

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

It tells me the frames are really high but the games feel terrible. The screen tears when moving around fast and in some games some pretty annoying frame drops

what sort of fps are you seeing reported?
and have you verified that the monitor is running at it's rated MHz?

and what do consider "frame drops";
just quick flashes back & forth from high to low fps,
scenes seem to skip around losing milliseconds of time, etc..?

 

[Billybob37]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Gigabyte A520M AORUS ELITE
+
I updated Bios
What BIOS version are you on for your motherboard? Did you clear the CMOS after you'd verified the BIOS was flashed to the latest version?

700 watt thermaltake smart
Thermaltake have a number of PSU under the Smart lineup, which one do you have and how old is the PSU? I wouldn't have paired an RTX3070 Ti with that PSU in the build.

I did many many fresh windows installs, even tried windows 10.
Where did you source the installer for the OS? Did you install the OS in offline mode, to later install all drivers with the latest versions relevant to your platform in an elevated command, while disconnected from the internet?

Ok, found some time to do some more troubleshooting. Cleared Cmos - did nothing.
Bios: F17D 09/02/2024
I took the OS straight from the windows website, Did install in online mode.
I have the 80 plus 700 watt smart not modular - I understand it’s not the best but it worked with these components for years really well so it’s weird that it would be causing the problem now.
Thanks!!

 

[JohnBonhamsGhost]

the 80 plus 700 watt smart not modular - I understand it’s not the best but it worked with these components for years really well so it’s weird that it would be causing the problem now.

not weird at all.
lower quality units don't hold up to extensive use like gaming as well over time.
exactly why their warranty lengths are usually noticeably shorter.

 

[Syntaximus]

Don't cheap out on a PSU, get something gold rated with a 10+ year warranty.
Seasonic are their own OEM, they are my first choice - Corsair are also good however.

 

[Billybob37]

Is that 2X set of 8GB, set to 3200, and in the correct slots 2 & 4 going away from the processor?
Download OCCT and run the CPU stress test, and video card stress test, what are the temps of both? You can also run the power supply test.

Yeah it is, XMP enabled. Correct slots.
I ran a CPU test and the temps were stable around 83 C which seems a bit high to me? I redid the therma paste cuz it’s been a few year but it didn’t help. Got down to 82 C ish.
I need to run the test still for power and gpu.

 

[Billybob37]

not weird at all.
lower quality units don't hold up to extensive use like gaming as well over time.
exactly why their warranty lengths are usually noticeably shorter.

Good point, I will run a test on it.

 

[Slumy__57]

I do think upgrading the PSU is a good idea in this case, but your issues sound like they're stemming from the graphics/monitor settings in my opinion.

Screen tearing can happen when your frame rates are too high, some monitors do it worse than others. I would make sure your refresh rate is correct on the monitor, in the windows display settings, as well as the nvidia control panel; play around with vsync (and gsync if applicable) settings in game, and in the nvidia control panel; and make sure your graphics drivers are updated using either nvidia's software, or directly from the GPU manufacturer.