[citation][nom]de5_Roy[/nom]i bet there are others like me who'd love to see some oc benches (fx4300, a10-5800k, fx 6300 and fx8320) against the i3 and sub $200 i5 cpus. since the apus and fx 6300 turned out to be decent gaming performers, i am hoping that the next sbm builds(like q4 2012 one) might have one or two as well.i've read your numerous(as in too many to count) claims of not being able to notice fps difference between i5 cpus and fx/apus in gaming. yet, mid-single digit fps difference due to motherboard choice gets you this worked up. i hope you're absolutely, absolutely, absolutely sure that your amd-bias isn't clouding your judgement. underlined the bit for future references.[/citation]
No De5_Roy, I just don't know how people can be spoon fed that a i3 is better than every AMD CPU to date. I started with the Motherboard issue, that Z77 board will inflate the i3's results over anything a B75 or H61 (the chips realistic chipset) can produce, we have done this before and have found that the general difference is 2-5FPS from mid to high end can be around 10FPS from a low end to high end board, that is the reason why you pay so much. If performance was the same then they wouldn't cost it. Also what possible reason is there not to use the Crosshair V formula Z update which every reviewer will tell you is the best undisputed AM3+ board available.
The 2500k SKU listing on Intels site is $225 why is it even listed? and this is largely irrelevent as we know the 3970X barely ever makes notable difference over a 3570K yet the LGA2011 is 2-3x the costing. That said it should not be a Sub $200 but CPU in general. Thereafter we need to look at the total value of setup. That ASRock A85 board has basically everything that $400 board has including 3 way xfire/sli support all at just over $100. AM3+ has tended to give a lot of features for a lower cost. When looking at intel B75 and H61 is a disaster, Z77 is expensive (like Z68 was) so why not a full spectrum review on build off's to price point and relative performance.
And just another for the road, a i3 is certainly far from better than any AMD CPU made, this is a perversion that some casual bystander is going overlook and end up with a i3 only to be hopelessly miserable with it.
No De5_Roy, I just don't know how people can be spoon fed that a i3 is better than every AMD CPU to date. I started with the Motherboard issue, that Z77 board will inflate the i3's results over anything a B75 or H61 (the chips realistic chipset) can produce, we have done this before and have found that the general difference is 2-5FPS from mid to high end can be around 10FPS from a low end to high end board, that is the reason why you pay so much. If performance was the same then they wouldn't cost it. Also what possible reason is there not to use the Crosshair V formula Z update which every reviewer will tell you is the best undisputed AM3+ board available.
The 2500k SKU listing on Intels site is $225 why is it even listed? and this is largely irrelevent as we know the 3970X barely ever makes notable difference over a 3570K yet the LGA2011 is 2-3x the costing. That said it should not be a Sub $200 but CPU in general. Thereafter we need to look at the total value of setup. That ASRock A85 board has basically everything that $400 board has including 3 way xfire/sli support all at just over $100. AM3+ has tended to give a lot of features for a lower cost. When looking at intel B75 and H61 is a disaster, Z77 is expensive (like Z68 was) so why not a full spectrum review on build off's to price point and relative performance.
And just another for the road, a i3 is certainly far from better than any AMD CPU made, this is a perversion that some casual bystander is going overlook and end up with a i3 only to be hopelessly miserable with it.
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