Question Got a challenge. Building a PC for a friends little brother.

Anthony_F_Thompson

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The kids only a middle schooler so you don't have to go bananas. However, I wanted to apply some rules for a guaranteed significant gain over his older system with a GT 640 and Pentium G2030, 4GB of DDR3 1333MHz RAM and a 250GB HD. I want him to get the best bang for his buck.

Rules

Operating System has to be Windows 10.

The case has to have at least 2 case fans. 1 for intake and 1 for exhaust. Nothing fancy.

Keyboards and mice are not included.

Sticking with TN panel monitors with free sync and 2TB Barracuda

Powersupply must be Bronze or better with full modulation.

Qualifying CPUs are Ryzen 5 3600, i5-7600, i5-8500, i5-9400F, i5-9400, i3-9100, i3-8100, Ryzen 5 2600X, Ryzen 5 3400G, Ryzen 5 2600, Ryzen 7 2700, Ryzen 3 3200G, Ryzen 5 1600, Ryzen 5 2400G, Ryzen 3 2200G, Ryzen 3 1200.

Qualifying GPUs are RX 590, RX 580, RX 570, RX 560, RX 550. Must have 4GB or more.

RAM must be 8GB in duel channel with MHz at least native or high speeds of its paired CPU. Ryzen 5/3 2933 - 3200MHz, 2400MHz i5 and i3 7th, 8th and 9th gen.

Must play Fortnite at 60 FPS at max settings 1080P or close give or take. He really likes games like this bad has broken his cheap mice because the performance is so bad.

Budget is $600 - $800.
 
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Mandark

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you already went bananas with your parts list apparently. I guess the kid's a Rothschild..... i9-9900 and RTX 2080Ti super? your 800 dollar budget would never accommodate such extravagance.

I suggest you use PcPartpicker.com to spec out a 600-800 system and you will see what I mean when using parts off your parts list

here's a price for your RTX 2080Ti Super... 1099 dollars for just a video card.. really? why bother putting any of the supers on the list, let alone the latest generations of any video card.

 
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you already went bananas with your parts list apparently. I guess the kid's a Rothschild..... i9-9900 and RTX 2080Ti super? your 800 dollar budget would never accommodate such extravagance.

I suggest you use PcPartpicker.com to spec out a 600-800 system and you will see what I mean when using parts off your parts list

here's a price for your RTX 2080Ti Super... 1099 dollars for just a video card.. really? why bother putting any of the supers on the list, let alone the latest generations of any video card.

Exactly. There's a BIG difference between i3s and i5s, not to even mention an i9.
 
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So, here is the parts list:
Parts List v1
Just pirate the Windows from a torrent and you're good to go.

Or, if for some reason actually like wasting money, here is another list with the operating system:
Parts List v2

Peace. If this helped, mark it as an answer and/or like.
 

Anthony_F_Thompson

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Well, I certainly didn't expect people to get triggered over just putting a list of qualifying parts whether or not they magically fell in the budget. I don't know why I expect people to just act normally and stay relevant to the topic here.
So, here is the parts list:
Parts List v1
Just pirate the Windows from a torrent and you're good to go.

Or, if for some reason actually like wasting money, here is another list with the operating system:
Parts List v2

Peace. If this helped, mark it as an answer and/or like.
Not when they're set to private.
 
There aren't any IPS panels with low millisecond response time within the price range. My recommendation is a TN panel for lower input lag which will benefit tremendously in games like Fortnite. Since requirements are only 60fps, I went with a 75hz display, and the RX 580 will be able to match FPS to that monitor's refresh rate and then some.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($135.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($70.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Computer 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card ($185.78 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($66.40 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($105.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSLL-120-WT 41.8 CFM 120 mm Fan ($8.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: LG 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($126.99 @ B&H)
Total: $936.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 08:35 EDT-0400
 
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Mandark

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no need to pirate windows either, that is really bad advice. you can use windows 10 free as long as you like unactivated with a very few restrictions like changing background wallpaper. Use Microsoft's Windows Media Creation Tool found on the web

what your request should have been is simple, just give budget, where you are located (makes a huge difference) and levels of performance you want. many of the gurus will give you pcpartpicker builds to fit those needs and budget constraints.
 

Anthony_F_Thompson

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you already went bananas with your parts list apparently. I guess the kid's a Rothschild..... i9-9900 and RTX 2080Ti super? your 800 dollar budget would never accommodate such extravagance.

I suggest you use PcPartpicker.com to spec out a 600-800 system and you will see what I mean when using parts off your parts list

here's a price for your RTX 2080Ti Super... 1099 dollars for just a video card.. really? why bother putting any of the supers on the list, let alone the latest generations of any video card.


it's just a list, bro. It can't hurt you.
 

Anthony_F_Thompson

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There aren't any IPS panels with low millisecond response time within the price range. My recommendation is a TN panel for lower input lag which will benefit tremendously in games like Fortnite. Since requirements are only 60fps, I went with a 75hz display, and the RX 580 will be able to match FPS to that monitor's refresh rate and then some.

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($135.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($70.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Computer 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card ($185.78 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($66.40 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($105.89 @ OutletPC)
Case Fan: Fractal Design FD-FAN-SSLL-120-WT 41.8 CFM 120 mm Fan ($8.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Monitor: LG 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($126.99 @ B&H)
Total: $936.77
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 08:35 EDT-0400
Nice. But not perfect. No extra purchases of fans needed. The case doesn't even have to be great quality. As long as it has got some intake and exhaust, I doubt budget parts will be a heat issue. I bet his mom will live without being able to check her email on the fly so we might be able to take out the OS. Shrink that price even more for a cheaper lower capacity ram, it's not like he's playing any massive MMOs. The SSD could be 120GB for only $20 bucks. As long as the OS and everything else is snappy it should be perfect for just a kid. All he needs is HDD speed which the barracuda is great for. I also agree on the monitor. His old one isn't doesn't even use an HDMI. Doubt he'll have the intellect to judge the difference and will like the response time over beauty.
 

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I bet we could just stick with AMD GPUs and cheap TN panels that have free sync. That'll certainly improve things, won't they? I guess we don't need to go any higher than a 580 8GB. Updating the list. Now that I've seen what's been offered to pop a few of my own light bulbs. Let's stick with 8GB of ram that is at least native to the CPU. He doesn't know how to overclock so a cheap motherboard will also be fitting. Does he really need an SSD? No. He's just got a lot of big games he likes to play. Let's stick with the 2TB Barracuda.
 
Nice. But not perfect. No extra purchases of fans needed. The case doesn't even have to be great quality. As long as it has got some intake and exhaust, I doubt budget parts will be a heat issue. I bet his mom will live without being able to check her email on the fly so we might be able to take out the OS. Shrink that price even more for a cheaper lower capacity ram, it's not like he's playing any massive MMOs. The SSD could be 120GB for only $20 bucks. As long as the OS and everything else is snappy it should be perfect for just a kid. All he needs is HDD speed which the barracuda is great for. I also agree on the monitor. His old one isn't doesn't even use an HDMI. Doubt he'll have the intellect to judge the difference and will like the response time over beauty.
As you wish and good luck acquiring perfection. Deducted the extra fan, feel free to take one of the front intakes and mount it as a rear exhaust. I wouldn't go lower than 3000mhz memory for Ryzen as performance will be negatively impacted. I chose the 3200mhz kit because it was so close to 3000mhz competition in price.
Feel free to choose any capacity ssd of preference:

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($135.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($70.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SanDisk SSD PLUS 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Computer 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card ($185.78 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($66.40 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($105.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($126.99 @ B&H)
Total: $900.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 09:19 EDT-0400
 

Anthony_F_Thompson

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As you wish and good luck acquiring perfection. Deducted the extra fan, feel free to take one of the front intakes and mount it as a rear exhaust. I wouldn't go lower than 3000mhz memory for Ryzen as performance will be negatively impacted. I chose the 3200mhz kit because it was so close to 3000mhz competition in price.
Feel free to choose any capacity ssd of preference:

PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($135.88 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450M DS3H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($70.89 @ OutletPC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: SanDisk SSD PLUS 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($32.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Computer 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 580 4 GB Gaming 4G Video Card ($185.78 @ OutletPC)
Case: Fractal Design Focus G Mini MicroATX Mini Tower Case ($66.40 @ Walmart)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($60.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($105.89 @ OutletPC)
Monitor: LG 24MK400H-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($126.99 @ B&H)
Total: $900.78
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-23 09:19 EDT-0400
Is that true? I feel like I heard something about that from Jayz2Cents where the ram matters on whether the CPU is running at peak condition or not.

Well, Intel CPUs seem to be around the same price range and have some higher single-thread speed which is better for gaming. Buuutt he has friends he likes to stream over with so this is conflicting. Could just have him use the GPU encoder and it probably won't matter to them if Nvidia has the better codec quality. Ram prices have really dropped hard, lately, though. I remember this set of 32GB 3600 I kept my eye on that was sitting at 230 something. Can you believe its down to 150?
 
Is that true? I feel like I heard something about that from Jayz2Cents where the ram matters on whether the CPU is running at peak condition or not.

Well, Intel CPUs seem to be around the same price range and have some higher single-thread speed which is better for gaming. Buuutt he has friends he likes to stream over with so this is conflicting. Could just have him use the GPU encoder and it probably won't matter to them if Nvidia has the better codec quality. Ram prices have really dropped hard, lately, though. I remember this set of 32GB 3600 I kept my eye on that was sitting at 230 something. Can you believe its down to 150?
Both processors will exceed matching the monitor's refresh rate via FPS performance. Choosing the R5 2600 with three times more threads will ensure smooth game play along with additional overhead for streaming (better multicore performance), as well as superior system longevity for future triple A title releases.
 

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