Gtx 670 and 2550 x 1440 monitor? I need help. :D

[ArcticWonder]

Hey everyone, I plan to use a gtx 670 to power a Yamakasi Catleap 2550 x 1440... Will that work? How well? Like bf3 @ max settings? Please note I have not purchased the card OR the monitor so it's the prime time to guide me! I feel like I could take gaming to the next level by going from a Gtx 570 W/ a 1080p monitor to this new setup. Please post and respond I'm very curious about this! And how big of a leap is it from 1080p to 1440p? Really any advice is appreciated I've never ventured into this expensive level of gaming so... I'm very wary and don't want to waste money but DO want an awesome gaming experience. Thanks 😀

 

[ArcticWonder]

And remember let me know the differences between 1080p and 1440p... Is it incredibly way more totally awesome? Or just a little better? And btw if I do buy the monitor I want to try to do the 120hz hack on it..

 

[sherlockwing]

Hey everyone, I plan to use a gtx 670 to power a Yamakasi Catleap 2550 x 1440... Will that work? How well? Like bf3 @ max settings? Please note I have not purchased the card OR the monitor so it's the prime time to guide me! I feel like I could take gaming to the next level by going from a Gtx 570 W/ a 1080p monitor to this new setup. Please post and respond I'm very curious about this! And how big of a leap is it from 1080p to 1440p? Really any advice is appreciated I've never ventured into this expensive level of gaming so... I'm very wary and don't want to waste money but DO want an awesome gaming experience. Thanks 😀

with 1440p you could run into the Vram wall with 2GB GTX 670 with high AA settings(like 8X, 2X might be fine), since you haven't bought the card yet I recommend getting a HD7970 or HD 7950 as both come with 3GB of Vram.

1440p & IPS are both awesome sauce, however with FPS games like Battlefield 3 you might be better off with a TN 120Hz monitor since they only have 2ms input delay as oppose to 6ms+ with IPS panels so you get less ghosting.

 

[andrewcarr]

I'd recommend the 7970 since it can overclock better (which you'll most likely want to do) and you can run higher AA with a lower performance hit (compared to the 670).

 

[bystander]

with 1440p you could run into the Vram wall with 2GB GTX 670 with high AA settings(like 8X, 2X might be fine), since you haven't bought the card yet I recommend getting a HD7970 or HD 7950 as both come with 3GB of Vram.

1440p & IPS are both awesome sauce, however with FPS games like Battlefield 3 you might be better off with a TN 120Hz monitor since they only have 2ms input delay as oppose to 6ms+ with IPS panels so you get less ghosting.

There is no 2GB wall with any playable setting on a single 670, even with 5760x1080. The only time the 2GB become a wall is when you have 2-3 GTX 670's in SLI on 5760x1080 with AA. The reason it takes 2-3 in SLI before it can become an issue is until that point, on a 5760x1080 monitor setup, a single 670 does not have enough power to turn up the setting high enough that the Vram becomes a limitation.

 

[ArcticWonder]

I'm probably not going to get an AMD card. And no, it's not because I hate AMD, I have an 1100t... But I like the idea of physX and I've seen demos for Borderlands 2 wit hand without physX and there is a noticeable difference.. If the gtx 670 plays games @ 1440p with like... 60 fps I'd be happy

 

[ArcticWonder]

Also, I've heard that with 1440p and only one monitor 2gb won't matter at all compared to 4gb version..

 

[sherlockwing]

There is no 2GB wall with any playable setting on a single 670, even with 5760x1080. The only time the 2GB become a wall is when you have 2-3 GTX 670's in SLI on 5760x1080 with AA. The reason it takes 2-3 in SLI before it can become an issue is until that point, on a 5760x1080 monitor setup, a single 670 does not have enough power to turn up the setting high enough that the Vram becomes a limitation.

Data doesn't lie, anything above 1080p you are better off with AMD's 3GB Vram and superior bus speed. Not to mention 7900 series have more overclock headroom due to unlocked voltage.

 

[bystander]

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/images/bf3_2560_1600.gifhttp://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/images/bf3_5760_1080.gif

Data doesn't lie, anything above 1080p you are better off with AMD's 3GB Vram and superior bus speed. Not to mention 7900 series overclocks much better due to unlocked voltage.

Your charts did not show any wall at all. It showed the 670 performing normal on both charts. It did show the 7970 GHz edition performed quite well, but when you OC the 670 to a GHz, it will perform almost as high (about the same difference as the non-GHz 7970 to the non OC'ed 670).

The only thing holding back performance at that resolution is bandwidth, and the loss in performance is quite small.

 

[sherlockwing]

Your charts did not show any wall at all. It showed the 670 performing normal on both charts. It did show the 7970 GHz edition performed quite well, but when you OC the 670 to a GHz, it will perform almost as high (about the same difference as the non-GHz 7970 to the non OC'ed 670).

The only thing holding back performance at that resolution is bandwidth, and the loss in performance is quite small.

Look at it again:

Instead of looking at Ghz, look at 7970 vs 670.

1920X1200 4X AA
GTX 670: 65.9 FPS > HD7970 64.4 FPS

2560X1600 4X AA
HD 7970 42 FPS > GTX 670 40.4 FPS

Notice how the table turned on 670 when the resolution went from 1200p to 1600p?

 

[bystander]

Look at it again:
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/images/bf3_1920_1200.gifhttp://tpucdn.com/reviews/AMD/HD_7970_GHz_Edition/images/bf3_2560_1600.gif

Instead of looking at Ghz, look at 7970 vs 670.

Yes, I'm looking. There is a 1-2 FPS difference. How is that a wall?

 

[sherlockwing]

Yes, I'm looking. There is a 1-2 FPS difference. How is that a wall?

It is that you are paying the same for less FPS, with 8X AA the gap will be even bigger. Maybe there isn't a wall, but HD 7900 series performs much better at high AA & high Resolution.

 

[bystander]

It is that you are paying the same for less FPS, with 8X AA the gap will be even bigger.

Omg, 1-2 FPS, the game is unplayable.

Seriously, he already mentioned he wanted Nvidia for PhysX. If he has PhysX games he wants to play, then he should get an Nvidia card. So what if he loses a couple FPS. That is nothing.

You also should realize the vram size would not make up any of the FPS. In fact, the 4gb cards either perform the same, or 1-2 FPS slower. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/palit_geforce_gtx_680_4gb_jetstream_review,21.html

 

[sherlockwing]

Omg, 1-2 FPS, the game is unplayable.

Seriously, he already mentioned he wanted Nvidia for PhysX. If he has PhysX games he wants to play, then he should get an Nvidia card. So what if he loses a couple FPS. That is nothing.

You also should realize the vram size would not make up any of the FPS. In fact, the 4gb cards either perform the same, or 1-2 FPS slower. http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/palit_geforce_gtx_680_4gb_jetstream_review,21.html

Do ditch your fanboy hat and consider:

HD 7970 pulls ahead of GTX 670 on higher than 1200p resolution.

These benches are run at stock clock rates, HD7970 price is not much higher than 670 while 7950 prices are $70 lower at least:

HD 7970 series comes with a 915 stock clock and can be overclocked to 1150-1200 on average(check OCN)-> 25%-31% Overclock

GTX 670 comes with a 980 boost clock at least (the average kepler boost is another 90 higher than that), so they run these Benchmarks at about 1050 Mhz clock minmum, your chance to get a 1300mhz GTX 670 is about 50/50 depend on silicon luck & thermal throttling and that's only a 21% Overclock.

So when Overclocked), the edge to 7970 will be larger and OCed 7950s will reach or surpass 670 in performance while costing much less.

In Conclusion, GTX670 is not the optimal price/performance GPU for 1440p gaming with high AA.


But if you really need PhysX, GTX 670 will be just fine.

 

[andrewcarr]

He wants PhysX. He believe it is noticeable enough to only consider NVidia GPU. How can you not get this through your head?

Yes I do prefer the 7970 over the 670 but I understand what he wants thus I'm not arguing like an idiot like you are.

 

[bystander]

Do ditch your fanboy hat and consider:

These benches are run at stock clock rates:

HD 7970 series comes with a 915 stock clock and can be overclocked to 1150-1200 on average(check OCN)-> 25%-31% Overclock

GTX 670 comes with a 980 stock boost(the average kepler boost is another 90 higher than that), so they run these Benchmarks at about 1050 Mhz clock minmum, your chance to get a 1300mhz GTX 670 is about 50/50 depend on silicon luck & thermal throttling and that's only a 21% Overclock.

So when Overclocked), the edge to 7970 will be larger and OCed 7950s will reach or surpass 670 in performance while costing much less.

In Conclusion, GTX670 is not the optimal price/performance GPU for 1440p gaming with high AA.

You could also buy a cheap old Nivida GPU to run PhysX only while running your HD7950/70, it is not rocket science.

Dude, he wants PhysX. I don't care about which brand he uses. You called the 2GB of vram as a limitation, which I clearly showed it isn't, even at 5760x1080. The only person being a fanboy is yourself.

If he didn't want PhysX, you'd still be wrong about 2GB running into a wall at 2560x1440, but the 7970 would be a good choice, but that is not what he asked for.

 

[sherlockwing]

He wants PhysX. He believe it is noticeable enough to only consider NVidia GPU. How can you not get this through your head?

You could buy a 9800 GTX for dirt cheap and have it run PhysX only, how could you not comprehend that?

Dude, he wants PhysX. I don't care about which brand he uses. You called the 2GB of vram as a limitation, which I clearly showed it isn't, even at 5760x1080. The only person being a fanboy is yourself.

Look at Sig, see GTX 670 in SLI-> Jokes on you.

 

[andrewcarr]

Unless you use modded drivers you can't run a PhysX only GPU with any AMD main card.

Theirs a reason you don't yet have any medals in this section, you just don't know everything. For that matter neither do I, but I don't argue a failing point.

 

[sherlockwing]

Unless you use modded drivers you can't run a PhysX only GPU with any AMD main card.

Use it then, if you want Phys X so bad you use a 2GB card on 1440p resolution with a gimped BUS.

 

[bystander]

You could buy a 9800 GTX for dirt cheap and have it run PhysX only, how could you not comprehend that?

You never presented that as an option and a 9800gt isn't enough power for many games that use GPU accelerated PhysX (it probably would be enough for Borderlands 2, however). You also need a hack to make it work, and it still costs about $60 added to the cost.

If you want to insult people for not comprehending something, you need to first have written something about it first.

 

[sherlockwing]

Hey everyone, I plan to use a gtx 670 to power a Yamakasi Catleap 2550 x 1440... Will that work? How well? Like bf3 @ max settings? Please note I have not purchased the card OR the monitor so it's the prime time to guide me! I feel like I could take gaming to the next level by going from a Gtx 570 W/ a 1080p monitor to this new setup. Please post and respond I'm very curious about this! And how big of a leap is it from 1080p to 1440p? Really any advice is appreciated I've never ventured into this expensive level of gaming so... I'm very wary and don't want to waste money but DO want an awesome gaming experience. Thanks 😀p

I don't see " PhysX" here.

 

[sherlockwing]

And remember let me know the differences between 1080p and 1440p... Is it incredibly way more totally awesome? Or just a little better? And btw if I do buy the monitor I want to try to do the 120hz hack on it..

Didn't see he really needed PhysX, in that case 670 will be perfectly fine.

 

[andrewcarr]

I'm probably not going to get an AMD card. And no, it's not because I hate AMD, I have an 1100t... But I like the idea of physX and I've seen demos for Borderlands 2 wit hand without physX and there is a noticeable difference.. If the gtx 670 plays games @ 1440p with like... 60 fps I'd be happy

But it does right here. :lol:

The added cost of a dedicated PhysX card doesn't make it worth his time for all the issues you'll run into for an extra few FPS.

 

[mouse24]

1-2 fps could even be a small enough difference to most certainly fall within testing anomalies or a small margin of error. He said he wanted physx in the 6th post down.

I don't see why you are getting so hostile over this, so you were wrong. So what? And though I have no experience with the modded drivers so if I'm wrong here please excuse my lack of knowledge. Doesn't the modded drivers actually reduce performance? Not to mention if you get a physx card thats to slow it will have to wait on the physx to get done processing the information before they can be drawn to the screen by the main gpu thus lowering your overall fps.

 

[sherlockwing]

Didn't see he really needed PhysX, in that case 670 will be perfectly fine.

But it does right here. :lol:

The added cost of a dedicated PhysX card doesn't make it worth his time for all the issues you'll run into for an extra few FPS.

I did say if he needs PhysX then 670 will be fine.