GURPS deities and heroes

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Ingo Siekmann wrote:

>Gentlemen, Gentlemen...
>As everybody knows, there is only *one* way to proper handle a duel:
>Shotguns and observation balloons.
>
In this group, I'd think the one way to handle a duel would be:

150 points. No mental disadvantages. No exotic advantages or disads.
No points for IQ below 10.

Just choose a TL, get an impartial judge to referee the match, and have
at it.

 

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On Mon, 6 Jun 2005 16:29:37 -1000, "Warren Okuma" <wokuma@lava.net>
wrote:

>> Additionally, I find it helpful to have human-sized stats for the
>> various deities, as if they'd been turned into mortals. Seeing Thor
>> have a ST of 19 or something seems much more helpful to me than just
>> *guessing* how muscular he looks with only super-human stats to go by.
>>
>Hmmmm... Gurps Who's Who: Legends and Avatars?

Hehe! That sounds like an interesting idea. Oh, and by the way, has
SJG provided a full list of upcoming publications -- you know, the
"one hardcover a month", scheduled three years out?

It would be nice to see what they're planning on re-doing in the next
few years, though I suppose that could cut into sales of their
remaining 3rd edition books.

-- Matt Jozwiak

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:10:49 +0200, Ingo Siekmann
<Ingo-Siekmann@web.de> wrote:

>Gentlemen, Gentlemen...
>As everybody knows, there is only *one* way to proper handle a duel:
>Shotguns and observation balloons.

Do you mean we ride the balloons or shoot at them in competition?

-- Matt Jozwiak

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 05:45:41 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

>>You're the one who accepted the challenge, but now you try to weasle
>>your way out with words? I've already stood my ground. Either back
>>up your snyde remarks or cower in silence.
>
>Pay my way. Or come out here. Or grow up. Your choice.

Instead of doing something poignant like buying you a one-way ticket,
I'll instead apply the money to my boat fund. That both protects my
investment (since you'd could just tear up the ticket) and allows me
to visit you in comfort and convenience (and with surprise).

Provided I don't forget this incident, I'll be seeing you later.

-- Matt Jozwiak

 

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"Douglas Berry" <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> ha scritto nel messaggio
news:7579a11n5pm0u2g1p5ptvrhmhrgft81kar@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 13:21:51 -0400, Red Beard <Akahige@HotPOP.com>
> drained his beer, leaned back in the rec.games.frp.gurps beanbag and
> drunkenly proclaimed the following
> >On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 15:47:00 GMT, Douglas Berry
> ><penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>Several times in your message you've made belittling remarks and
> >>>insinuations. If you continue to insult me, I shall react strongly.
> >>
> >>This is me not shaking in my boots.
> >
> >So be it. Where would you like to duel?
>
> East Range, Schofield Barracks, Hawaii. The weapon of choice is the
> M-24 Sniper Weapon System.

Will they let you shoot at a human living target in the barracks? I guess
the training is more realistic than one would suppose, nowadays.

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:10:49 +0200, Ingo Siekmann
<Ingo-Siekmann@web.de> drained his beer, leaned back in the
rec.games.frp.gurps beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
>Red Beard schrieb:
>>
>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:54:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
>> <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
>>
>> >I see you've never been a sniper. But if you prefer, barehanded it
>> >is!
>>
>> I could never get used to it. I guess for some it's a power trip, but
>> it just made me feel like a pervert or something. As for bare-handed,
>> though that's not what I was suggesting, I guess that's fine too. If
>> you want my opinion, old-fashioned melee weapons are best.
>
>Gentlemen, Gentlemen...
>As everybody knows, there is only *one* way to proper handle a duel:
>Shotguns and observation balloons.

Broadswords at 50 paces.

This "Red Beard" guy is an amusing loon.
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"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
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On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:14:12 -0400, Red Beard <Akahige@HotPOP.com>
wrote:

>On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 23:03:34 GMT, Douglas Berry
><penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
>
>>OK, you pay for everything, including my travel and accomodations, and
>>I'll show up. But I'm not spending a dime to deliver a smackdown to a
>>whiny child who is incapable of doing his own damn research and cries
>>about how mean everyone is.
>
>You're the one who accepted the challenge, but now you try to weasle
>your way out with words? I've already stood my ground. Either back
>up your snyde remarks or cower in silence.

Looks like somebody flubbed his Savoir-Faire roll.

You challenged, he accepted. As the challenged party, he has the right
to set the conditions of the duel, as long as they're reasonable.

I think that easily-obtainable weapons used at a weapons range intended
for said weapons is quite reasonable...

--
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"As far as Doug is concerned, "dignity" is just a tragic disease that
other people suffer from."
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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 17:02:22 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:10:49 +0200, Ingo Siekmann
><Ingo-Siekmann@web.de> drained his beer, leaned back in the
>rec.games.frp.gurps beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following
>>Red Beard schrieb:
>>>
>>> On Mon, 06 Jun 2005 20:54:26 GMT, Douglas Berry
>>> <penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> >I see you've never been a sniper. But if you prefer, barehanded it
>>> >is!
>>>
>>> I could never get used to it. I guess for some it's a power trip, but
>>> it just made me feel like a pervert or something. As for bare-handed,
>>> though that's not what I was suggesting, I guess that's fine too. If
>>> you want my opinion, old-fashioned melee weapons are best.
>>
>>Gentlemen, Gentlemen...
>>As everybody knows, there is only *one* way to proper handle a duel:
>>Shotguns and observation balloons.
>
>Broadswords at 50 paces.

Axes at two paces.

(Five extra character points for the first to identify the source.)

>This "Red Beard" guy is an amusing loon.

It's better than arguing over some non-GURPS game system...

--
Rob Kelk Personal address (ROT-13): eboxryx -ng- tznvy -qbg- pbz
"As far as Doug is concerned, "dignity" is just a tragic disease that
other people suffer from."
- Bob Schroeck, talking about his V&V character, 15 March 2005

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:42:04 GMT, "Michele Armellini"
<don'tspam.miarmel@tin.it> wrote:


>Will they let you shoot at a human living target in the barracks? I guess
>the training is more realistic than one would suppose, nowadays.

They should go to Florida. Dueling's legal there, now.

But for something a bit more constructive, I was thinking that it
might be interesting to put together an Olympian package.

Morph 100 points
Terror 30 points
Unkillable 2 100 points
Warp (Blind +50%, Warp Jump +10%) 160 points Some but not all
Olympians have Extra Carrying Capacity.
Jumper 100 (Warp Jump +10%) 110 points
Wild Talent 10 (Focused -20%) 160 points
Doesn't Breathe 20 points
Pressure Support 15 points
Vacuum Support 5 points
Unaging 15 points
Invisibility to Electromagnetic Vision (Switchable +10% Can Carry
Light Encumberance Objects +20%, Affects Machines +50%,
Substantial Only -10%) 68 points
See Invisible 15 points
Magery 3 35 points

Total: 673 points.

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:53:10 GMT, rgorman@telusplanet.net (David
Johnston) wrote:

>They should go to Florida. Dueling's legal there, now.

Please elaborate.

>But for something a bit more constructive, I was thinking that it
>might be interesting to put together an Olympian package.
>
>Morph 100 points
>Terror 30 points
>Unkillable 2 100 points
>Warp (Blind +50%, Warp Jump +10%) 160 points Some but not all
>Olympians have Extra Carrying Capacity.
>Jumper 100 (Warp Jump +10%) 110 points
>Wild Talent 10 (Focused -20%) 160 points
>Doesn't Breathe 20 points
>Pressure Support 15 points
>Vacuum Support 5 points
>Unaging 15 points
>Invisibility to Electromagnetic Vision (Switchable +10% Can Carry
>Light Encumberance Objects +20%, Affects Machines +50%,
>Substantial Only -10%) 68 points
>See Invisible 15 points
>Magery 3 35 points
>
>Total: 673 points.

Wow, that's pretty extensive! Some of the parts are not what I
would've expected, so I'm going to go re-read the advantage
descriptions.

-- Matt Jozwiak

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:53:10 GMT, rgorman@telusplanet.net (David
Johnston) wrote:

:On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:42:04 GMT, "Michele Armellini"
:<don'tspam.miarmel@tin.it> wrote:
:
:
:>Will they let you shoot at a human living target in the barracks? I guess
:>the training is more realistic than one would suppose, nowadays.
:
:They should go to Florida. Dueling's legal there, now.

Hell, in Florida you can shoot someone just for
looking at you funny.
:

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democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist
dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the
bidding of the leaders. This is easy. All you have to do is tell them
they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of
patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every
country."
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LukeCampbell <lwcampbe@uci.thetrash.edu> writes:

>Ingo Siekmann wrote:

>>Gentlemen, Gentlemen...
>>As everybody knows, there is only *one* way to proper handle a duel:
>>Shotguns and observation balloons.
>>
>In this group, I'd think the one way to handle a duel would be:

>150 points. No mental disadvantages. No exotic advantages or disads.
>No points for IQ below 10.

>Just choose a TL, get an impartial judge to referee the match, and have
>at it.

Not even the 10 points for Compulsive Behavior: Arguing or the
10 points for Odious Personal Habit: Is Into RPGs?

--
Chimes peal joy. Bah. Joseph Michael Bay
Icy colon barge Cancer Biology
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By reading this line you agree to mow my lawn. NO GIVEBACKS.

 

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On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 19:44:41 +0000 (UTC), jmbay@Stanford.EDU (Joseph
Michael Bay) wrote:

>LukeCampbell <lwcampbe@uci.thetrash.edu> writes:
>
>>Ingo Siekmann wrote:
>
>>>Gentlemen, Gentlemen...
>>>As everybody knows, there is only *one* way to proper handle a duel:
>>>Shotguns and observation balloons.
>>>
>>In this group, I'd think the one way to handle a duel would be:
>
>>150 points. No mental disadvantages. No exotic advantages or disads.
>>No points for IQ below 10.
>
>>Just choose a TL, get an impartial judge to referee the match, and have
>>at it.

I could do that! However, both duelists have to come to my place... 😎

>Not even the 10 points for Compulsive Behavior: Arguing or the
>10 points for Odious Personal Habit: Is Into RPGs?

You don't have to record disads that *everybody* in the game has.

--
Rob Kelk Personal address (ROT-13): eboxryx -ng- tznvy -qbg- pbz
"As far as Doug is concerned, "dignity" is just a tragic disease that
other people suffer from."
- Bob Schroeck, talking about his V&V character, 15 March 2005

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:34:12 -0400, Rob Kelk <robkelk@deadspam.com>
wrote:

>I think that easily-obtainable weapons used at a weapons range intended
>for said weapons is quite reasonable...

Unless I misunderstood his meaning, the location was at a military
base on an island far out in the Pacific Ocean... Did you honestly
believe they'd just open the doors and let us in to fight? No, his
suggestion seems a wee bit shy of "reasonable" to me.

I, on the other hand, suggested that just about any spot in the
continental U.S. would be acceptable. Such would be much easier for
most anyone, assuming it's not some wacky location like a mountaintop
or the middle of a desert.

Booking passage to Hawaii is basically the easiest way for him to get
rid of me without endangering himself. All he'd have to do is inform
the police of this entire thread, and swear out a complaint.

No, his suggestion was definately NOT reasonable, it was a trap.

-- Matt Jozwiak

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:36:06 -0400, Rob Kelk <robkelk@deadspam.com>
wrote:

>I could do that! However, both duelists have to come to my place... 😎

It looks like you're joking... or are you making a legitimate offer?

-- Matt Jozwiak

 

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On , Red Beard <Akahige@HotPOP.com> wrote:

>
>NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 13:22:18 MST
>Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:22:19 -0400
>Xref: news.telusplanet.net rec.games.frp.gurps:208863
>
>On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 18:53:10 GMT, rgorman@telusplanet.net (David
>Johnston) wrote:
>
>>They should go to Florida. Dueling's legal there, now.
>
>Please elaborate.

The Shoot First law.

resorting to the use of deadly force. The bill, signed into law
Tuesday by Gov. Jeb Bush (R), will allow people in Florida -- without
fear of criminal prosecution or civil action -- to shoot, stab or
pummel to death anyone who causes them to fear for their lives outside
of their homes, on the street, or in their cars or businesses. It's
called the "Castle Doctrine," meaning your body, not just your home,
is your castle and that you can stand your ground and meet force with
force virtually anywhere if you reasonably believe injury or death
might occur.

I was of course kidding about legalising dueling which would be a more
extreme interpretation of the law than would be likely in practise.
But of course both participants in a duel could reasonably feel
themselves to be in peril.

>
>>But for something a bit more constructive, I was thinking that it
>>might be interesting to put together an Olympian package.
>>
>>Morph 100 points
>>Terror 30 points
>>Unkillable 2 100 points
>>Warp (Blind +50%, Warp Jump +10%) 160 points Some but not all
>>Olympians have Extra Carrying Capacity.
>>Jumper 100 (Warp Jump +10%) 110 points
>>Wild Talent 10 (Focused -20%) 160 points
>>Doesn't Breathe 20 points
>>Pressure Support 15 points
>>Vacuum Support 5 points
>>Unaging 15 points
>>Invisibility to Electromagnetic Vision (Switchable +10% Can Carry
>>Light Encumberance Objects +20%, Affects Machines +50%,
>>Substantial Only -10%) 68 points
>>See Invisible 15 points
>>Magery 3 35 points
>>
>>Total: 673 points.
>
>Wow, that's pretty extensive! Some of the parts are not what I
>would've expected, so I'm going to go re-read the advantage
>descriptions.

The "focus" of an Olympian's Wild Talent would of course be defined by
what they were god "of". Thus, without training, Ares would be able
to use any weapon or military skill regardless of tech level, Artemis
could use any nature skills (and more importantly nature spells),...

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:15:08 -0400, Red Beard <Akahige@HotPOP.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the rec.games.frp.gurps beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
>On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 05:45:41 GMT, Douglas Berry
><penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:
>
>>>You're the one who accepted the challenge, but now you try to weasle
>>>your way out with words? I've already stood my ground. Either back
>>>up your snyde remarks or cower in silence.
>>
>>Pay my way. Or come out here. Or grow up. Your choice.
>
>Instead of doing something poignant like buying you a one-way ticket,

Feel free!

>I'll instead apply the money to my boat fund. That both protects my
>investment (since you'd could just tear up the ticket) and allows me
>to visit you in comfort and convenience (and with surprise).

No, you send me a ticket, and cover my expenses, and I'll come.

See, little one, I'm a combat veteran. I have killed real people, in
a real war, at everything from knife range to 800 meters. You are a
poseur wannabe.

>Provided I don't forget this incident, I'll be seeing you later.

Translation: "I'm a loon, and I never intended to go through with
this."
--

Douglas E. Berry Do the OBVIOUS thing to send e-mail
Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:00:27 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

>See, little one, I'm a combat veteran. I have killed real people, in
>a real war, at everything from knife range to 800 meters. You are a
>poseur wannabe.

I have no reason to brag about killing people, nor do I need stripes
to prove my worth.

>Translation: "I'm a loon, and I never intended to go through with
>this."

Believe what you will.

-- Matt Jozwiak

 

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drained his beer, leaned back in the rec.games.frp.gurps beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following
>
>Hehe! That sounds like an interesting idea. Oh, and by the way, has
>SJG provided a full list of upcoming publications -- you know, the
>"one hardcover a month", scheduled three years out?

To hard for you to go to sjgames.com yourself? Do you need people to
chew your food for you too?


--

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Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:01:18 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

>To hard for you to go to sjgames.com yourself? Do you need people to
>chew your food for you too?

Actually, I was dis-satisfied with their meager list. If you know of
a more complete list someplace else on their site, why not just direct
me to it instead of making even more rude and condescending remarks?

-- Matt Jozwiak

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:22:19 -0400, Red Beard <Akahige@HotPOP.com>
drained his beer, leaned back in the rec.games.frp.gurps beanbag and
drunkenly proclaimed the following

>>They should go to Florida. Dueling's legal there, now.
>
>Please elaborate.

Do your own research.
--

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Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:01:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

>>>They should go to Florida. Dueling's legal there, now.
>>
>>Please elaborate.
>
>Do your own research.

I'm sorry, I guess I should've been more specific as to whom I was
addressing my request for elaboration.

-- Matt Jozwiak

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:42:04 GMT, "Michele Armellini"
<don'tspam.miarmel@tin.it> drained his beer, leaned back in the
rec.games.frp.gurps beanbag and drunkenly proclaimed the following

>> East Range, Schofield Barracks, Hawaii. The weapon of choice is the
>> M-24 Sniper Weapon System.
>
>Will they let you shoot at a human living target in the barracks? I guess
>the training is more realistic than one would suppose, nowadays.

Schofield Barracks is the primary army base in Hawaii. So named
because unlike Fort Schafter, it wasn't built for a defensive purpose.
The name stuck because it was traditional.

East Range is a huge training area featuring knife-edge ridges, deep
valleys, and some hellacious hills. All tropical rain forest. Great
place for a stalk'n'hunt.

These days, we use the MILES system for training. Great improvment
over the wax bullets of WWII!
--

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Atheist #2147, Atheist Vet #5

"Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as
when they do it from religious conviction."
Blaise Pascal (1623-1662), Pense'es, #894.

 

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:15:07 -0400, Red Beard <Akahige@HotPOP.com>
wrote:

:On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:10:49 +0200, Ingo Siekmann
:<Ingo-Siekmann@web.de> wrote:
:
:>Gentlemen, Gentlemen...
:>As everybody knows, there is only *one* way to proper handle a duel:
:>Shotguns and observation balloons.
:
😀o you mean we ride the balloons or shoot at them in competition?

Both.
:
:-- Matt Jozwiak

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On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 21:01:37 GMT, Douglas Berry
<penguin_boy@mindOBVIOUSspring.com> wrote:

>On Tue, 07 Jun 2005 16:22:19 -0400, Red Beard <Akahige@HotPOP.com>
>drained his beer, leaned back in the rec.games.frp.gurps beanbag and
>drunkenly proclaimed the following
>
>>>They should go to Florida. Dueling's legal there, now.
>>
>>Please elaborate.
>
>Do your own research.

Be fair. Asking me what my joke means is something that research
won't necessarily answer.