No, your GPU is probably the biggest cause for low framerates. There's built-in Intel GPUs that have more performance than that GPU. Although, 4GB of RAM is not exactly enough RAM either. Looking at your overall package makes me think "everything needs to be upgraded..."I want to get more ram. Now I have 4 gb ddr3 1600mhz ram. I want another 4 gb
GT 640 1GB
If I double my ram can I get better fps in games Like rust, rainbow six siege?
I have an ASUS B75M-PLUS motherboardNo, your GPU is probably the biggest cause for low framerates. There's built-in Intel GPUs that have more performance than that GPU. Although, 4GB of RAM is not exactly enough RAM either. Looking at your overall package makes me think "everything needs to be upgraded..."
A simple test you can try is to use Intel XTU and try a slight overclock and slight underclock of the CPU to see what effect it has on your performance. If you have significant changes going either way then your CPU is the problem. If there's very little either way then it's either the RAM or GPU that is the issue.
I'll outline the two games and point out the issues compared to your system.
Minimum requirements for Rust (I know these aren't perfect but they illustrate a point):
CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 / AMD FX-9590 or better
RAM: 8 GB
VIDEO CARD: GTX 670 2GB / AMD R9 280 better
DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 2048 MB
Notes: Your CPU has too few cores, you do not have enough RAM, your GPU has too little performance, and your GPU has too little VRAM.
Minimum requirements for Rainbow 6 Siege:
CPU: Intel Core i3 560 @ 3.3GHz or better, AMD Phenom II X4 945 @ 3.0Ghz or better
RAM: 6 GB
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460, AMD Radeon HD 5770, And DX11 cards with 1GB VRAM
DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 1 GB
Notes: You do not have enough RAM and your GPU has too little performance.
After looking at the two minimum GPUs your current GPU is half the performance of Rainbow 6 Siege's and a quarter the performance of Rust's.
Here's a few examples of upgrades you can do. Keep in mind that I'm not suggesting these specific parts but more that these would be something you could consider.
"New" CPU with 4 CPU cores: ~$34 on the second-hand market.
Example: $34 (Incl. shipping) - Core i5-3340S from Ebay
Note: Does not meet minimum requirement for Rust but is significantly better. I'd also need to know what your specific make and model motherboard you have or the make and model for the pre-built computer (HP/Compaq/Gateway).
New RAM: ~$26 for the bargain bin sticks.
Example: $26 - G.Skill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 9-9-9-24-2N 1.5v
Note: As with the CPU I'd like to know what make and model motherboard or pre-built system you have before committing to any suggestions.
New GPU: ~$130 for the minimum I'd suggest that stays within the minimum requirements of those two games.
Examples: $130 - AMD RX 570 (Note: requires a decent PSU) | $170 - Nvidia GTX 1050 Ti (Note: Does not need a powerful PSU but is a HUGE rip-off)
Note: This one highly pivots on what the output and quality of PSU you have. I'd need the make and model of the PSU or the make and model of the pre-built computer. Also, if you're willing to risk the second hand market you can find great deals on used GPUs like a GTX 960 (~$66).
I have a 450W power supply.That stick of RAM and CPU should work just fine in that motherboard.
What kind of power supply do you have?
Did you try doing the overclock/underclock I mentioned using Intel XTU?
Why? I don't get it :S If I get the same RAM stick are they didn't work?Adding extra memory to your existing memory have no guarantee to be compatible together.
Exact match, identical, same thing have no guarantee to be compatible together.
Memory is guaranteed in the form sold. I suggest you buy a kit of two.
I'm searching now a GPU, I don't want to spend too much money, I'm trying to get the best deals.Will it perform better? Yes.
How much? Not much, your handicap on that system is a CPU just above the minimum, and a GPU well below the minimum for the games you are playing.
There are better ways to spend your money... like saving it for a bigger upgrade than 4gb of ram.
Yeah with a limited budget like that thats all you can do. Try and get your hands on a used GTX 970 and an 8gb ram kit, or a single 8gb dimm. Getting a matching DIMM to the one you have has no guarantee of working.I have about 125 USD budget, I'm whatcing the local second hand market
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000005657/boards-and-kits.html#dualWhy? I don't get it :S If I get the same RAM stick are they didn't work?
Actually, he does know what he is taking about. And what did I say about personal attacks?Calvin doesn't know what they're talking about.
"Rules to enable dual-channel mode
To achieve dual-channel mode, the following conditions must be met:
- Same memory size. Examples: 1 GB, 2 GB, 4 GB.
- Matched DIMM configuration in each channel.
- Matched in symmetrical memory slots.
The following conditions do not need to be met:
The slowest DIMM module populated in the system decides memory channel speed."
- Same brand
- Same timing specifications
- Same speed (MHz)
If your PSU doesn't have the proper connectors, buy a new PSU. DO NOT use such adapters, they are dangerous garbage.I've got another question. I bought Gigabyte windforce 960 2gb and that is need 2x6 pin connectors. My PSU only have 1x6 pin connectors. If I buy a 1x6pin to 2x6 pin adapter (idk what is the name) that's can work? Or I need another type?
I have multiple anecdotal examples, as well as links specifically to Intel's and AMD's statements, that oppose this predication. Even my signature system "Gramps" is an example that opposes this notion. Yes, motherboard/chipset and CPU IMC's can be finicky at times but it is not the fault, necessarily, of the RAM. In fact, I know that it is the CPU IMC that asserts compatibility since the Core i7-900s were released. The Core i7-900s/Xeon X54xx/X56xx never state that they support addressing any RAM stick with a capacity above 4GB (All consumer boards claim 4GB/slot) but yet Gramps here does work just fine with 8GB sticks. The requirement for it to work, after cross-referencing the technical documents for the IMC of the Xeon's (which is the same IMC in the i7-900s), is that the composition cannot exceed 512Mb/chip. Thus, dual rank (total of 16) 512Mb composition sticks will work in the system. This was not a function of the RAM being "finicky" but it is, in fact, the Integrated Memory Controller inside the CPU that dictates this. Well, unless the Memory Controller resides in the Chipset, like it does in older systems, in which case this puts the onus on the motherboard/chipset (Remember VIA?). Lastly, there is a RAM slot topology and trace design that can effect overclocking. 1DPC, Daisy chain and T-topology can effect overclocking. 1DPC is the best for overclocking with daisy chain being 2nd best but only when using 2 DIMMs. Using 4 DIMMs then you want T-Topology for the best overclockability. Go figure, most RAM manufacturers use 1DPC or daisy chain motherboards, with cherry picked CPU IMCs, for their DDR4-3866+ kits.Ram can be VERY finicky, and in many situations not using a matched set results in a system that either is not stable or doesn't boot at all. Thats what he was referring to. If you want your best chance of it working and not being stuck with ram that you can't use you need to either buy a matched set, or at a minimum buy the identical DIMM to what you have. For example if you try to run a Samsung and a Hynix DIMM in the same system in most cases it won't work at all.
Ya, OK. Sure.Actually, he does know what he is taking about.
You can purchase the same model stick and be fairly confident that it will work. Unlike the misinformation I've seen being pushed. Also, most RAM manufacturers offer lifetime warranties. So, if you get a dead-on-arrival (DOA) stick then you can go through the retailer or the manufacturer to get a working one. I suggest G.Skill because they're very accommodating with warranty RMAs.I want the same RAM stick. You say don't risk it?
The 750 Ti uses a max of 150w so it should be completely fine with most any system. Nvidia's specification actually states a max of 60w but that one probably uses more. You GT 640 actually uses more power than the 750 Ti. That 750 Ti represents a roughly 3x increase in performance. My previously mentioned RX 570 would be too much load for your PSU. The GTX 1050 Ti, which I find to be a rip-off, would be your next best choice but perhaps consider waiting for Nvidia to release their GTX 1650. Hopefully it is entirely powered by the slot (no PCIe power, 75w) or uses a 6-pin connector (75w connector + 75w from slot, 150w total).and I've got a pretty good deal ASUS GTX 750Ti Formula OC for ~65 USD
the only question is, my PSU can handle it?
I'm not going to sit here and line by line your thread. Aside from your condescending tone trying to "educate me" your anecdotal evidence doesn't trump anyone elses. In many many years working with this I know my statements to be correct. So instead I'm going to tell you you have the best possible resource right here, an account on this forum. Spend any time in the memory or systems areas of this forum and you will see how wrong you are.I have multiple anecdotal examples, as well as links specifically to Intel's and AMD's statements, that oppose this predication.
I'm searching now a GPU, I don't want to spend too much money, I'm trying to get the best deals.
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