Intel CEO Says Windows 8 is Not Fully Ready

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I have been using win8 on 4 systems at home full time, and I have it on another system at work for people to play with and see 'what's next' and have not had a single issue with RTM (had quite a few with RP and CP though).

Perhaps Paul is complaining more about the win8RT, which is not finished as an OS, and it is already announced that the Office suite packaged with it will be incomplete even after release. The other reference could be WP8, which is still under tight wraps, and shares a lot of code with the as-yet incomplete win8RT. Surely if WP8 was finished then we would have a completed feature list, and reviewers would be getting their phones now to start doing reviews for next month... but it is not happening yet. I really hope wp8 is not delayed... I really want to move up to a smartphone, and if they deliver just on the things promised so far then it would be perfect for me... but if things get delayed then it is going to be a SGS3 (or 4 if it comes out soon as rumored?) for me.
 
Get over the start button, jesus people. Windows 8 is faster, and easier to operate then win 7 ever was. Me I like to look and feel of windows 8, other then a few programs I have yet had any issues with windows 8.
 
LOL. Windows operating system copies sold does not equal processors sold. It doesn't matter if 100 million buy windows 8 or 1 million, cpu sales won't be hurt at all with this.

Biggest problem for CPU sales would be market saturation, which hasn't happened for over 5 years.
 
Well! do not try Visual Studio Express for windows desktop, I tried it, still quite a few bugs! I could never get the windows registration to work, I could log in to my windows live acount, but the part that was supposed to give me a software KEY never worked, and now If I wanted to dowload and install an earlier version of VS express, well, the registration with that will not work also! I hear that people are having trouble registering VS express through IE 9, but it is impossable to reach anyone at microsoft who can help, online or over the phone. Why microsoft needs a software KEY to use a Free product, confuses the hell out of me! Microsoft your attempt at offering software for educational and other hobby use is a total failure if no one can install and register the FREE version of your IDE! Good luck getting trained programmers for your software mills in the future! I am now looking for an open source IDE to use, instead of VS express! Microsofts entire help network is disfunctional, and the MSDN knoledge base is a unmanaged heap of null pointers!
 
[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]What makes Windows8 worth the price of admission for someone that already has Windows7?[/citation]
I wasn't justifying upgrading to Windows 8 (the only reason I have it is for testing development compatibility). I was just pointing out that Paul took a swing at Windows 8 without claiming anything specific.
 
[citation][nom]jimmysmitty[/nom]I am amazed that people forget that Intel has probably the largest software dev team in the world and yet they doubt what can be said. While most users may not see the bugs, it may bore more akin to the AMD Phenom TLB bug that did affect servers more than users and servers need near 100% stability.That said, I don't see 8 as a viable upgrade for gamers or PC power users. For AiOs or Tablets, sure. But normal users will lose efficiency since Metro is designed for touch screens.Strange to see MS alienate so many users for one group.[/citation]
I hate statements like these, there's still a desktop-environment, Metro is just a fullscreen start menu. You really aren't losing anything, especially if you are a "power user".
 
I actually rather like Win8 RTM---the new minimalist desktop feels snappier than 7, and other than a strange "COM surrogate has stopped working" message that pops up like once a day, I havent had any issues at all (not really much of an issue, IMHO). And if you almost never reboot, you will almost never see the Metro start screen (which yes, I do find rather useless for a desktop PC, but like I said, I very rarely see it, so it really doesnt matter).
 
[citation][nom]halcyon[/nom]What makes Windows8 worth the price of admission for someone that already has Windows7?[/citation]
Why use a car when a horse and buggy will still work? Why use a fork instead of your hands? Why buy Iphone 5 when Iphone 4 works, or Samsung GIII over GII. Yes all the old items will work but there are functions that people want inthe new one, or the "got-to-have-the-newest".

The majority of people will buy it because 8 > 7, so it has to be better and never use any more advanced features. In an corp. there are many improvements, and some companies will upgrade to "get-an-edge" on competition, or cut staff needed (once out and stable).
For 99% of desktop users no there is no reason, but there is no reason for the majority of "new" products.
 
is it mean that W7's price will slighty goes cheaper, 😵 . ..???!
for me it is not much important to use 7 or 8, the most significand is "the price".
 
[citation][nom]the_brute[/nom]Why use a car when a horse and buggy will still work? Why use a fork instead of your hands? Why buy Iphone 5 when Iphone 4 works, or Samsung GIII over GII. Yes all the old items will work but there are functions that people want inthe new one, or the "got-to-have-the-newest". The majority of people will buy it because 8 > 7, so it has to be better and never use any more advanced features. In an corp. there are many improvements, and some companies will upgrade to "get-an-edge" on competition, or cut staff needed (once out and stable). For 99% of desktop users no there is no reason, but there is no reason for the majority of "new" products.[/citation]

Yeahs, but in most cases there's some new compelling reason to upgrade. That was my point. However, I don't see Windows 8 as a compelling upgrade. Why buy a horse and buggy when you already have a BMW?
 
[citation][nom]Bloob[/nom]I hate statements like these, there's still a desktop-environment, Metro is just a fullscreen start menu. You really aren't losing anything, especially if you are a "power user".[/citation]

In theory this is true. However I've found the charms bar particularly infuriating to use (since it makes use of an unresponsive hover function) and that without my Windows key on my keyboard I would be significantly more annoyed with the Start Menu.

Add to that the hover function for accessing open programs and pretty much every other hover function used throughout the OS and it's still a pain to use. Ultimately I'll have to learn the relevant keyboard shortcuts in order to make full use of the OS.

I cannot stress enough how annoying I've found those hover functions. They aren't instantaneous like a mouse click or finger tap and they serve only to get in the way.

Answer me why those things benefit the OS as a whole and I'll be on board. Till then, I'll hold off.
 
I have been using windows 8 from technet since early-September 2012, and the more I use it, the more I like it and the less I feel justified about my early fears. Lack of start button has been highly (and mostly justifiably) criticised, but I find that it does not affect me in terms of time/clicks taken to execute most commands. The key thing is that most will see the absence of a start button, and stick to win 7.

 
Perhaps Intel should look at its own recent record and not release stuff before it is ready
1. Sandy Bridge 2011 flaw
2. SSD AES 256 bit encryption flaw in 2012
3. Buggy drivers and drivers being pulled off from website soon after release.
4. RSTe bug with SMART.

These are just some that I have personally seen.
 
[citation][nom]firstonevorlon[/nom]That´s a load of bull............... I have been using Windows 8 (with Classic Shell to bring the good old start screen) and Windows Server 2012 in many customers. ROCK SOLID so far, running all the previous applications and almost all of the peripherals are working flawlessly. Maybe there are bugs in the ModernUI interface, but I'm not using that one whatsoever. The good old Desktop is working like a charm, especially if you install Classic Shell to bring it to Windows 7/Windows XP start menu like interface. There's absolutely no true to these comments from the 50+ workstations and servers I have running on Windows Server 2012 and Windows 8.[/citation]

Notice how he's not registered (grey text). This is a Microsoft employee paid to promote it.
 
Why is this news? Even Apple releases operating system upgrades with flaws. Mountain Lion comes to mind with its issues of poor battery life and compatibility problems. Don't know why users have yet to learn that early adopters take a chance on any new upgrade as possible creating issues that will need to be worked out. I don't like Windows 8 and won't be upgrading but its not because I think its unstable. I just do not like being forced into a user interface for tablets so that Microsoft can sell tablets with Windows 8. If I could have had a choice in UI settings I think I would have been more interested in Windows 8.
 
[citation][nom]jimmysmitty[/nom]I am amazed that people forget that Intel has probably the largest software dev team in the world and yet they doubt what can be said. [/citation]
They can't even get their IGP drivers right for years.
 
I've been using Win8 RTM for as month or so (contrary to comments on the first page this is NOT a beta, ie. it is the identical build as the final public release), and have found it mostly ok, and generally very compatible with existing apps.
Like guardianangel42 I am finding the Charm interface simply hopeless. Trivial things like shutting down your PC are a chore and it feels convoluted and illogical. As for Metro, you don't really need to ever see it or use it and I don't.
I suspect for most users there is no compelling reason to install Win8 over 7 (and vice versa). It's a case of take it or leave it for me at least.
 
Why...precisely?

Huh...you mean puke-y?


Huh? I know everyone has different experiences...but is comparing Mountain Lion to windows 8 appropriate here?

1. Mountain Lion costs what? windows 8 costs who?
2. Problems w/battery life, eh? I've not seen that on my MacBook Pros...at all...not even a little bit. ...will have to investigate.
3. I think most Mountain Lion customers would agree that they didn't sacrifice anything (worth noting). I wonder if most windows 8 users will say the same?
 
[citation][nom]CaedenV[/nom]Perhaps Paul is complaining more about the win8RT, which is not finished as an OS, and it is already announced that the Office suite packaged with it will be incomplete even after release.[/citation]
CV may have a point there. Porting an app to another architecture requires more work and test, more so porting an OS. Some low-level calls may not be available or may not work exactly the same across different architectures. You either eliminate the offending feature or do rewrites for work-around solutions. So win8 for x86 might work fine as a lot suggested but win8rt may need more ironing.
 
[citation][nom]nitrium[/nom]Like guardianangel42 I am finding the Charm interface simply hopeless. Trivial things like shutting down your PC are a chore and it feels convoluted and illogical. .[/citation]

Don't know if you've tried this yet, but Ctrl-Alt-Delete takes you to a screen which on the bottom right allows you to log out, shut down, or restart. It actually ends up being faster than 7, Vista, XP. Just found that yesterday, LOL.
 
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