Intel Stands Behind Controversial Tests That Favored Its CPU Over AMD's

[SkyBill40]

It’s 1998 all over again Athlon vs PIII. Intel benchmarks were biased. Clock for Clock the PIII couldn’t hold a candle to the Athlon until the coppermine refresh hit.

I had an AMD Thunderbird @ 1.4Ghz and that thing was awesome for the time. I still have it, truth be told, though it and my Athlon 64FX San Diego core are both boxed up.... but still working if I ever wanted to go full on nostalgia mode. The glory days of AMD for sure and when they were eating Intel's lunch.

 

[littleleo]

"As usual, we advise readers to wait for reviews instead of plunking down their hard-earned cash based solely on vendor benchmarks."

What no just buy recommendation on the new Intel 9th Gen too? They must not have paid enough to Tom's for that.

It will be interesting to see more balanced benchmarks after they actually start shipping the 9th gen chips.

Well to be fair that was an opinion piece by one guy and it was a counter article to Derrick's "wait" opinion piece. But anyway yeah I still see people talking about it, and not just here. PCGamesN's original coverage (they took the results on blind faith) of this Intel-paid controversy was drawing comparisons to that incident in their comments. Anyway yes, the just buy it article did a lot of damage, which is a shame because the actual review was both fair and well-written IMHO, and yet many randos will only recall the one piece and assume coverage must have been biased.

It takes years to build loyalty and trust and just one stupid article to tear it all down. I hope it was worth it to Tom's Hardware, but I fail to see what the positive was. I don't know if I will ever really trust Tom's as much as I did before. Maybe you guys should make a opinion section (clearly labeled) for such fluff pieces.

 

[mac_angel]

when does Toms and other sites' NDA lift?

 

[SkyBill40]

when does Toms and other sites' NDA lift?

As I recall it, the NDA lifts on the 19th.

 

[mac_angel]

when does Toms and other sites' NDA lift?

As I recall it, the NDA lifts on the 19th.

That's shipping date. Sometimes they lift their NDA before then. Toms, and other reputable tech sites have already got them, if not yet, they will soon. Well before the 19th. Gives them time to run their benchmarks, work through any problems, talk to Intel and motherboard manufacturers about issues (I personally know that MSI is good at working with people and writing specific BIOS updates to help with issues). With all the crap that is going on with Intel and these latest "benchmarks" I well imagine the NDA will be the same as the shipping date so Intel can wrack up as much pre-sales as they can.
I do believe the Core i9 9900k will be faster than the AMD, it's just a matter of how much, and if it's worth the price difference. I personally hope that it's NOT worth the price difference, enough so that Intel will be forced to drop the price on it. Sadly, I really doubt that will happen though. Shame, because I'm really wanting to upgrade my 6850k. Contemplating sticking with the HID platform now.

 

[mlee 2500]

It really is a shame that more people didn't notice the fact that it was a counter article to the wait article. I took it as the Tom's crew just having some fun with it and it's too bad that so many took offense. The review, the actual serious tech press stuff was pretty fair I thought. But I'm off topic so I'll shut up.

I might buy that....if the same author of the piece didn't also publish an extensive bit equating people who use add-blockers with being thieves. That's the sort of person you're dealing with.

https://www.tomsguide.com/us/ad-blocking-is-stealing,news-20962.html

 

[littleleo]

when does Toms and other sites' NDA lift?

It depends, if the product is very good and performs as good as hyped or better the NDA will be lifted about a week before to get the hype to a fever pitch before the product actually starts shipping.

If the NDA isn't until the date the product actually ships. Then the manufactures expect the product to not perform as well as hyped, or there are issues with the product. Like it requires too much power, has disappointing OC numbers, is way over priced, has poor yields, or some issue the manufacturer wants to keep from becoming public and blunting the launch. Whenever you see a NDA last until the actual release date that should be a red flag so buyer beware!