News Intel Teases Rocket Lake Core i9-11900K, Intends to Retake Gaming Crown With 19% IPC Increase

[Admin]

Intel shared more information about its upcoming Rocket Lake-S flagship, the Core i9-11900K, claiming that it will retake the gaming performance crown.

Intel Teases Rocket Lake Core i9-11900K, Intends to Retake Gaming Crown With 19% IPC Increase : Read more

 

[Mfarooq360]

I'll be waiting for AMD's response, and it'll start with the 5000 XT series.

 

[sizzling]

Ah I needed a new space heater anyway

 

[PCWarrior]

I'll be waiting for AMD's response, and it'll start with the 5000 XT series.

AMD' response should be better availability, not binned SKUs with an even scarcer availability than the existing ones. Essentially AMD's response should be to actually launch what they paper-launched in October 2020. As for the Intel cpus they are retaking the single and light-threaded throne as expected.

 

[Makaveli]

Curious to see how many people will go to a 500 series chipset that is limited to 8c/16T cpu. Aderlake will be DDR5 and a new socket so there will be no upgrade path at all on that chipset.

As for ST it looks to be close enough on both sides that the deciding factor will be MT performance for most.

 

[philged]

2% increase over AMD with an additional estimated 25W TDP. Sounds like they're just overclocking the pants off of a 10900K and calling it the fastest chip. Not really a technical advancement, just POWERRRR.

Wouldn't be surprised if AMD just comes right back and does the same thing to reclaim the crown.

This competition is great though

 

[Giroro]

For me, a ~%5 increase at 1080p on a GPU that is foolish to buy for 1080p is not worth the loss of 4 cores and at such high power draw.
Plus I'm expecting Intel to raise the price of their chipset, again.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

IPC increase is impressive.

But the same clock speed and less cores seems rather unimpressive if price will be the same.

 

[RodroX]

Can't wait to get one of this Ryzen 9 5900X, or even better one of the future i9 11900K, to pair with a "no where to be found and veery expensive" RTX 3080 and hook up that amazing system to play at with a 1080p monitor........ really?


I think that we got to a point in time on which, to my regret, the CPU for gaming it actually doesnt matter much anymore. I mean right now we have at least 6 or maybe 8 decent CPUs (perhaps more) on several price tags, that can fit everyones budget and needs. CPUs that unless a very narrow and small niche (esport gaming at 720p or 1080p @ 240HZ or higher) are more than enough to run any GPU and give enough performance so that the system is well balanced.

Competition is good, and its nice to see intel striking back the best they can with its 14nm++++++ "terminator" node, but until we can get ourselfs some very powerfull GPUs at a decent price theres no much reason for more powerfull CPUs. We need decent and cheap GPUs first!!!

 

[bdcrlsn]

I'd be more impressed if their increases over the Ryzen was more than ~5%.

 

[jimmysmitty]

2% increase over AMD with an additional estimated 25W TDP. Sounds like they're just overclocking the pants off of a 10900K and calling it the fastest chip. Not really a technical advancement, just POWERRRR.

Wouldn't be surprised if AMD just comes right back and does the same thing to reclaim the crown.

This competition is great though

I have no idea where they get the 25W extra when the CPU is dropping two cores yet keeping the same turbo clocks as the 10900K.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

I have no idea where they get the 25W extra when the CPU is dropping two cores yet keeping the same turbo clocks as the 10900K.

The different architecture.

 

[jimmysmitty]

The different architecture.

Still doesn't give a good reason. We know nothing about it to assume power draw would increase that much especially from a new uArch, more refined 14nm and two less cores. I would say similar or less power draw before I would guess more.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Could potentially be due to boosting algorithms.

 

[Zerk2012]

I thought Intel was still king for gaming since the only AMD processors you can find are the 3XXX ones and you can buy any of the 10X00 processors?

 

[jimmysmitty]

Could potentially be due to boosting algorithms.

Possibly but that would still not explain much. Unless they are doing it to allow for longer top end boost times.

I guess we will see when the official specs come out and we can see real benchmarks. Otherwise its just speculation right now.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Intel is having stock issues too. 10100/f and 10400/f both bounce in and out of stock and prices fluctuate. But still better than AMD 5xxx which is mia.

 

[jasonf2]

I'd be more impressed if their increases over the Ryzen was more than ~5%.

Intel is still pretty impressive with this considering that they are still stuck at the 14++++++++++ node.

 

[Zerk2012]

Intel is having stock issues too. 10100/f and 10400/f both bounce in and out of stock and prices fluctuate. But still better than AMD 5xxx which is mia.

Just the F models I would rather have the built in graphics in case stuff went to crap.

EDIT 115 and 177 bucks for the non F. Always been the short coming to AMD in my personal opinion as if that means anything LOL.

 

[spongiemaster]

I'd be more impressed if their increases over the Ryzen was more than ~5%.

A 19% uplift in IPC over Coffee Lake should put Rocket Lake comfortably ahead of the 5000 series clock for clock in actual CPU dependent benchmarks. 1080p gaming is not the best application to test that.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Only if these applications do not see much benefit from AMDs additional cores

 

[jeremyj_83]

A 19% uplift in IPC over Coffee Lake should put Rocket Lake comfortably ahead of the 5000 series clock for clock in actual CPU dependent benchmarks. 1080p gaming is not the best application to test that.

19% wouldn't do that since Zen 2 was already about 5-7% faster clock for clock over Comet Lake. Zen 3 is another 19% faster than Zen 2 clock for clock so in the grand scheme of things Rocket Lake will be slower clock for clock against Zen 3.

 

[NightHawkRMX]

Ipc is VERY workload dependent

 

[spongiemaster]

19% wouldn't do that since Zen 2 was already about 5-7% faster clock for clock over Comet Lake. Zen 3 is another 19% faster than Zen 2 clock for clock so in the grand scheme of things Rocket Lake will be slower clock for clock against Zen 3.

You're correct. I should have said that RL will have the per core performance advantage, not the clock for clock advantage.

 

[jeremyj_83]

You're correct. I should have said that RL will have the per core performance advantage, not the clock for clock advantage.

We also don't know about that either. Intel claims "Up to 19% IPC" advantage. Those higher advantages are probably only going to be in specific workloads. It will be interesting to see the benchmarks though.