Intel Vs. AMD

[BigGZG]

Hi, I want to buy a new proc. but I don't know wich is better?

What is better to play a game like crysis?

1. CPU AMD Athlon64 X2 6400+ "Black Box Edition" (64-bit, integ.DDR2 mem. kontr., 2M L2 on-chip cache, 3200 MHz, 125W, 1.35V-1.40V), Socket AM2

OR

2. Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 BOX, (4×2.4GHz, 1066MHz, 8MB, Kentsfield, potrošnja:105W), 65nm, Socket 775, Quad Core

Thanks!

 

[yomamafor1]

Q6600.

Although Crysis doesn't offer any performance gain from dual to quad, Q6600 is still faster in general.

 

[Heyyou27]

I'd get the Q6600 even though Crysis won't really take advantage of the 4 cores; at the very least your CPU will be prepared for newer titles that will utilize all 4 cores.

 

[weskurtz81]

I would just go with a good dual core, and then later get a Penryn when the prices drop.

 

[cnumartyr]

Buy a P35 or X38 and get an E2160. Buy a Q9450 or 9300 when Penryn drops.

 

[itotallybelieveyou]

Q6600 hands down. Future prove.

 

[3Ball]

Q6600, no comparison imo!

Best,

3Ball

 

[itotallybelieveyou]

Go Q6600?

 

[dragonsprayer]

Q6600.

Although Crysis doesn't offer any performance gain from dual to quad, Q6600 is still faster in general.

http://www.hothardware.com/articleimages/Item1057/cry.png

lol and thats not overclocked!

overclock it to 3.6ghz and extend that bar

 

[AMDGamer]

I love when people compare apples to oranges. Since both chipes are different by far you have to go by a price standpoint. The price difference between the two above are not even in the same ballpark. The quad 6600 is $265, and the 6400+ is $179. Compare the Intel E6320 and the 6400+ and benchmark them. AMD runs cooler, and more stable which leads to a greater O'clock %. Intel 's newest technology bats out AMD, but AMD hasn't put theirs out. Hence the price difference. Remember Apples to Apples.

 

[cnumartyr]

I love when people compare apples to oranges. Since both chipes are different by far you have to go by a price standpoint. The price difference between the two above are not even in the same ballpark. The quad 6600 is $265, and the 6400+ is $179. Compare the Intel E6320 and the 6400+ and benchmark them. AMD runs cooler, and more stable which leads to a greater O'clock %. Intel 's newest technology bats out AMD, but AMD hasn't put theirs out. Hence the price difference. Remember Apples to Apples.

6400+ has more OC headroom than a E6320? lol...

Apples to apples btw would be a G0 E6750.

 

[Thanatos421]

Yea, I hate to agree with you, cause I love AMD as well, but Intel is a clear winner in overclockability. I just took an E6550 from 2.3 to 3.4 on 1.325 volts. I can't get my Opteron 185 from 2.6 to over 3.1 (which may be user error, but HT seems to die anything above that)

 

[yomamafor1]

Apples to apples also mean Q6600 vs. Phenom 9700...

EDIT: Actually, considering the price point, its Q6600 vs. Phenom 9500...

...and we all know how the story ends 😛

 

[ro3dog]

The X2 64 B.E will OC Real good on AMD's new chipset(790) with there new tweak software.The AMD 5000 B.E O.C'ed to 3.5, so yes it should OC well.Google it

 

[cnumartyr]

The X2 64 B.E will OC Real good on AMD's new chipset(790) with there new tweak software.The AMD 5000 B.E O.C'ed to 3.5, so yes it should OC well.Google it

Who said it wouldn't OC well? He's saying it will OC better with more headroom.

5000+ -> 3.5 GHz is a good jump.
6400+ -> 3.5 GHz not so much a large % OC.

Perhaps we should find some of the E6550s or E6420/6400s that OC so well. Or even some of the E21x0 that will pull 100% overclocks.

Noone is saying AMD's don't OC well. However the argument was a touch off base.

 

[skittle]

Compare the Intel E6320 and the 6400+ and benchmark them. AMD runs cooler, and more stable which leads to a greater O'clock %.

Where do these people come from?

 

[Thanatos421]

Not to mention that the 45nm chips are hitting over 4GHz on air. That IS the EE version, but I suspect that the majority of bins will be capable in the right hands.

 

[speedbird]

Well reading the OP's question I didn't actually read anywhere that they wanted to overclock? Why does everybody assume that every person is going to overclock their CPU lol some people might actually want to keep their warranty intact.

As to the original question.....

The Quad core has the advantage because it's fast in single core applications, but it will really shine with crysis and other upcoming games that can take advantage of the 4 cores.

AMD 6400+ X2 is fast, but the jump in price from the 6000+ for a measly 200mhz gain is not good value. That little more extra cash gets you the Intel quad!

 

[cnumartyr]

Not to mention that the 45nm chips are hitting over 4GHz on air. That IS the EE version, but I suspect that the majority of bins will be capable in the right hands.

I'd venture that 3.6-4.0 GHz will be pretty common... Even on the quads (with a good mobo).

 

[Thanatos421]

I sure do hope so. I didn't spend 300 bucks on the Maximus Formula to OC a 6750 😛

Damn Newegg and their price hikes!! I bought one MF for my friends build, at 279, not on sale. 2 weeks later, the price has jumped 30 bucks@!!!!!@!@ /rant off

I got this board and memory with a nice hefty Penryn Quad overclock in mind. I'll be drooling with anticipation til January I guess.

 

[KyleSTL]

G0 Q6600. No questions. Remember when everyone was saying a couple years ago that games could not take advantage of two cores. Well, that's over now and the this talk about lack of multi-threading for quads should be over within the year.

 

[cnumartyr]

I sure do hope so. I didn't spend 300 bucks on the Maximus Formula to OC a 6750 😛

Damn Newegg and their price hikes!! I bought one MF for my friends build, at 279, not on sale. 2 weeks later, the price has jumped 30 bucks@!!!!!@!@ /rant off

I got this board and memory with a nice hefty Penryn Quad overclock in mind. I'll be drooling with anticipation til January I guess.

HD3870s were $220 at launch. They are now close to $270 waiting on stock. Darn the supply/demand economics.

 

[Zorg]

Get the Q6600 G0.

 

[cisco]

I'm not a Intel fanboy, I often cheer on AMD to keep competing. That being said, I would definitely go with the Q6600 hands down. Quad Core will have more head room in the future. As more applications take advantage of the multiple cores the Q6600 will really start to pull away.

 

[cnumartyr]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i145/Soldier36/amd-black-edition-08-20.jpg
Ive got to be the balancing act here, too many intel bandwagon faboys on these forums. Who cares if it gives you 2 more frames per second in this game or that. Where were you fanboys when Amd was kicking the crap out of Intel P4s couple years ago. Next year Phenom 3 + Ghz quad cores will own penryn...Let the flames begin...LOL

Where was I? I was putting Athlons in builds for people because AMD held the performance crown. Where am I now? Back with Intel, because they hold the performance crown.

You are right though, most games will be CPU limited. However unlike you I do more encoding/RAR's and the like, and some of my stuff does take advantage of all 4 cores.