Intel's Future Chips: News, Rumours & Reviews

[juanrga]

^^^ Not a chance. AMD has zero interest for Intel.

 

[Turb0Yoda]

I agree.

 

[gamerk316]

Details on Knights Landing:

http://semiaccurate.com/2015/03/31/intel-talks-knights-landing-architecture/

With a die that big, no way it's going to be profitable. And DDR4 is really going to hurt it in memory bound tasks.

 

[de5_Roy]

Intel Core i3 vs. Core i5 vs. Core i7: A Value and Performance Analysis
http://www.techspot.com/review/972-intel-core-i3-vs-i5-vs-i7/
only haswell/refresh cpus. half-decent read for people on the fence about which intel cpus to get. the igpus are still useless hahaha (never get tired of saying that).

 

[Cazalan]

Details on Knights Landing:

http://semiaccurate.com/2015/03/31/intel-talks-knights-landing-architecture/

With a die that big, no way it's going to be profitable. And DDR4 is really going to hurt it in memory bound tasks.

The higher end models are usually in the $4500 range.

Why the memory concern? Did you not read the full article? 16GB of MCDRAM (custom HMC 3D memory) + DDR4.

Edit: HMC not HBM

 

[juanrga]

Details on Knights Landing:

http://semiaccurate.com/2015/03/31/intel-talks-knights-landing-architecture/

With a die that big, no way it's going to be profitable. And DDR4 is really going to hurt it in memory bound tasks.

Giant dies are rather popular on HPC. Did you miss the 16GB of MCDRAM? It is faster than the GDDR5 currently used in GPU cards.

 

[juanrga]

Intel Core i3 vs. Core i5 vs. Core i7: A Value and Performance Analysis
http://www.techspot.com/review/972-intel-core-i3-vs-i5-vs-i7/
only haswell/refresh cpus. half-decent read for people on the fence about which intel cpus to get. the igpus are still useless hahaha (never get tired of saying that).

The iGPUs are enough for the 80--90% of customers.

 

[jdwii]

Intel Core i3 vs. Core i5 vs. Core i7: A Value and Performance Analysis
http://www.techspot.com/review/972-intel-core-i3-vs-i5-vs-i7/
only haswell/refresh cpus. half-decent read for people on the fence about which intel cpus to get. the igpus are still useless hahaha (never get tired of saying that).

Very nice review and i agree with the reviewer 100% at the end.

 

[Cazalan]

The family get togethers are always enlightening for what the "kids" are playing these days. They're what I'd call retro gaming because more of their friends can play on just about any hardware. Half-life 2 based Garry's mod was one that came up. They have a PS4 but limited budget for games, so they spend more time on the PC playing these ancient games.

 

[jdwii]

Cazalan nice, the main reason i became a PC gamer is over me not having a lot of money at the time. I still say a 400$ gaming rig with new and used parts is better then a console and Steam sales and free games just make the final decision that much clearer.

 

[de5_Roy]

Skylake 15W mobile SKUs getting Iris graphics
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/notebooks/37472-skylake-15w-mobile-skus-getting-iris-graphics
After Haswell Refresh business users get Skylake-S
http://www.fudzilla.com/news/processors/37469-after-haswell-refresh-business-users-get-skylake-s

Braswell: MSI Launches Three Mini-ITX ECO Motherboards
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9147/braswell-msi-launches-three-miniitx-eco-motherboards
HEVC support, top clockrate 2.4 GHz, passively cooled. as long as it doesn't stutter....new HTPC contender...?

Intel's Client Computing Group combines PC and mobile divisions
http://techreport.com/news/28082/intel-client-computing-group-combines-pc-and-mobile-divisions
gotta hide those mobile losses.

 

[gamerk316]

The family get togethers are always enlightening for what the "kids" are playing these days. They're what I'd call retro gaming because more of their friends can play on just about any hardware. Half-life 2 based Garry's mod was one that came up. They have a PS4 but limited budget for games, so they spend more time on the PC playing these ancient games.

Those "ancient" games also tend to be more fun. There's very few games I really enjoy anymore, to be honest.

 

[de5_Roy]

Those "ancient" games also tend to be more fun. There's very few games I really enjoy anymore, to be honest.

i like my fave games turn "ancient" then play them. cheaper, less buggier and easier on present hardware (i.e. moar fps). hehe

edit:
Intel Makes Splash In China With Atom x3 (SoFIA) LTE-TDD, IoT Expansion, New Intel RealSense Camera For Smartphones
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/intel-china-atom-x3-iot-realsense,28902.html
so... not launching in italy as i presumed..

Zotac Goes Broadwell With New ZBOX M-Series Nano PCs
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/zotac-intel-broadwell-nano-zbox,28900.html
Analyzing Intel Core M Performance: How 5Y10 can beat 5Y71 & the OEMs' Dilemma
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9117/analyzing-intel-core-m-performance

edit 3:
Four LGA-1150 Motherboards Under $60
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asrock-b85m-dgs-asrock-h81m-hds-asus-h81m-e-msi-h91m-e34,4099.html
very useful if you're el cheaposkato like me.

edit 4:
U.S. Government Restricting Supercomputer Chip Exports To China
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/supercomputer-chip-exports-restricted-china,28908.html
intel screwed?

edit 5:
Xeon Phi chips will fuel 180-petaflop DOE supercomputer
http://techreport.com/news/28092/xeon-phi-chips-will-fuel-180-petaflop-doe-supercomputer
may have spoken too soon..

edit (rly lzy) 6:
Future-proofing HTPCs for the 4K Era: HDMI, HDCP and HEVC
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9152/futureproofing-htpcs-for-the-4k-era-hdmi-hdcp-and-hevc

 

[Turb0Yoda]

Well, I'm off to play Quake and Unreal Tournament. on my ancient E5300

 

[Cazalan]

edit 4:
U.S. Government Restricting Supercomputer Chip Exports To China
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/supercomputer-chip-exports-restricted-china,28908.html
intel screwed?

Gotta love policy changes that entice the majority of computer production to China, and then block your own countries sales further. Basically they want US companies to fail. Meanwhile the flood gates are open for cheap Chinese imports due to China currency manipulation.

 

[juanrga]

http://wccftech.com/intels-6th-generation-skylake-desktop-processors-platform-detailed-95w-enthusiast-quad-cores-confirmed/

 

[Turb0Yoda]

Well, if that is true(and if I read it right), then the "high end" CPU(I assume the successor to the i7-4970k) Will have a TDP decrease from 145 to 95... Dang

 

[gamerk316]

Intel's still pushing Thunderbolt? I mean, sheesh, just kill it already.

 

[de5_Roy]

Beelink Pocket P1 review, a micro-PC with a twist
http://www.fudzilla.com/reviews/37526-beelink-pocket-p1-review-a-micro-pc-with-a-twist
contra revenue benefits geting out of intel's hands...

Intel Rolls Out Energy-efficient Core i3-4170T Dual-Core Processor
http://www.techpowerup.com/211692/intel-rolls-out-energy-efficient-core-i3-4170t-dual-core-processor.html
coming up: 3.7GHz core i3 4170. that's a ht dual core cpu running at 3.7 GHz. wth.

Intel Reports Q1 2015 Earnings: Lower PC Sales And Higher Data Center Revenues
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9159/intel-reports-q1-2015-earnings-lower-pc-sales-and-higher-data-center-revenues

Panasonic Toughpad 4K 20-inch Tablet gets Broadwell update
http://hexus.net/mobile/news/tablets/82387-panasonic-toughpad-4k-20-inch-tablet-gets-broadwell-update/

Well, if that is true(and if I read it right), then the "high end" CPU(I assume the successor to the i7-4970k) Will have a TDP decrease from 145 to 95... Dang

you're comparing two different platforms, mainstream LGA 11xx with HEDT LGA 2011. in terms of mainstream (LGA 11xx)platform, TDP will increase from 88w to 95w.
from the leaks, intel isn't launching standard voltage parts, the -S suffix is usually reserved for low voltage parts with lower TDP. the "enthusiast" parts seem to be standard voltage parts.

 

[juanrga]

Well, if that is true(and if I read it right), then the "high end" CPU(I assume the successor to the i7-4970k) Will have a TDP decrease from 145 to 95... Dang

4970k doesn't exist. The 4790k is 88W. There is no decrease but increase.

from the leaks, intel isn't launching standard voltage parts, the -S suffix is usually reserved for low voltage parts with lower TDP. the "enthusiast" parts seem to be standard voltage parts.

No. The S suffix denotes sockeatable and the top part will be an unlocked 95W. The low voltage, low TDP will be the Y, U, and H parts.

 

[de5_Roy]

Intel sees better 14nm yields, ‘Broadwell’ ramp ahead of the plan
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-sees-better-14nm-yields-broadwell-ramp-ahead-of-the-plan/
Intel: We are excited about ‘Skylake’ processors and Windows 10
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-we-are-excited-about-skylake-processors-and-windows-10/

No. The S suffix denotes sockeatable and the top part will be an unlocked 95W. The low voltage, low TDP will be the Y, U, and H parts.

if true, seems like intel has changed naming schemes again. post the source, preferably intel's official statement saying S isn't for lv desktop parts anymore.
this is the latest i got:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/processor-numbers.html
i'd like to know if intel has anything changed.

 

[juanrga]

Intel sees better 14nm yields, ‘Broadwell’ ramp ahead of the plan
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-sees-better-14nm-yields-broadwell-ramp-ahead-of-the-plan/
Intel: We are excited about ‘Skylake’ processors and Windows 10
http://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/anton-shilov/intel-we-are-excited-about-skylake-processors-and-windows-10/

No. The S suffix denotes sockeatable and the top part will be an unlocked 95W. The low voltage, low TDP will be the Y, U, and H parts.

if true, seems like intel has changed naming schemes again. post the source, preferably intel's official statement saying S isn't for lv desktop parts anymore.
this is the latest i got:
http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/processor-numbers.html
i'd like to know if intel has anything changed.

Therefore you confirm that you didn't read the link that I provided, neither the included slides

Thanks!

 

[de5_Roy]

Therefore you confirm that you didn't read the link that I provided, neither the included slides
http://cdn.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Intel-Skylake-S-Platform-Details1.jpg
http://cdn4.wccftech.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/Intel-Motherboard-Chipset-Roadmap.jpg

Thanks!

the spamming was utterly unnecessary and you didn't confirm anything. i read the whatcakecopperftech article. it clearly states lower power, differentiates standard and low power parts. one of the ways to get the correct info would be to get the disclaimer slide from that deck. i think it'd refer to how the tdp will be denoted in model numbering.
besides, i asked for official information.
and you're making a huge deal out of something as trivial as model numbers. keep that in mind.

 

[Cazalan]

Have to go with de5_Roy on this one. Multiple suffixes are socketable (K/S/T).

S stands for "Performance-optimized lifestyle"

 

[juanrga]

Therefore you confirm that you didn't read the link that I provided, neither the included slides

Thanks!

the spamming was utterly unnecessary and you didn't confirm anything. i read the whatcakecopperftech article. it clearly states lower power, differentiates standard and low power parts. one of the ways to get the correct info would be to get the disclaimer slide from that deck. i think it'd refer to how the tdp will be denoted in model numbering.
besides, i asked for official information.

Providing a pair of Intel official slides answering your question is not spamming.

I see you didn't pay attention to the slides given to you. If you had done, you would see that Skylake-S includes "enthusiast quad core: 95W" and unlocked processors (overclocking). The slides also show that Skylake-S is coming to the Z170 chipset. I don't know how to say this to you... but your pretension that "Intel isn't launching standard voltage parts" because Skylake S are "low voltage parts with lower TDP" is plain wrong.