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The most interesting part of that is the Frame Time. If you watch you see a lot of dips with the Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge and Haswell CPUs but almost none with the Skylake CPU. That is IF that is to be believed.



In gaming, no. Honestly the CPUs that Intel has been producing for the last 5 years have just been phenomenal and it is hard to take what is already good and improve in a place where they are not the major bottleneck. GPUs are what need improvement along with API overhead. Then maybe CPU improvements will benefit games but not when it is already fast enough.



The reason to run the game at lower resolutions with a super high end GPU is to make the bottleneck be the CPU. That way you can see how well the CPU is handling the game and not the GPU.
 


I5's are already available everywhere at least on the states side of things, i'm holding out for the i7. Seems to be 249 across the board.
 


I could almost walk to the Chandler FAB32 and ask for a CPU. I do have a friend on the inside... might have to try to get a hold of him.
 


Yup, I know the i5s are available. My fear is that as I hold out for an i7, there may come a period where the i5 has sold out and the i7 is still unavailable, and I'm sitting past the 30 day return window for much of my hardware. Sure, my fault for jumping before everything was available, but I didn't want to get stuck in the reverse situation where I had a processor and couldn't get the mobo I wanted. Hopefully IDF will signal boxed i7 availability, or at least give us a timeframe.

I do notice that you CAN get an i7 in the US... if you buy it as part of a pre-built system. Part of me is tempted to get in i5 now, and try to sell it for $200 once I get my hands on an i7. I'm also contacting some Australian stores to see if they will export.

In the meantime, I put in a pre-order at B&H. I figure since they just opened up their pre-order, I should be near the top of the list of those to get a 6700k once B&H gets it. I also figure that NCIX probably has a ton of pre-orders since they have been taking them for about a month now. But if anybody gets it before B&H, I'll order from whomever gets it first, and cancel my B&H pre-order.
 


>: ( lucky. i've been having a lot of problems with dual posting.
 
That or it's all a ploy, by intel to squeeze as much money as they can from the i7 with inflated prices across the pond. An i7 in pounds is going to be significantly more expensive then a one in usd, oreuro's for that matter . Almost like they're forcing consumers to pay more money to get the same goods. Well i guess they can really get away with it considering theirs literally no competition from amd at the moment.
 
Intel must be shorting the market of i7s to sell i5s to desperate or over-eager enthusiasts and to drive up the price of i7s. I mean, I understand it. Intel is a corporation with a legal obligation to try to provide a profit to investors, but it seems underhanded. A necessary evil of capitalism I guess.
 
I mean we'll get it eventually just you know. Not when they said they'd make it available. I find it funny how they say supplies are limited in some areas of north america. I don't think any store anywhere in north america has an i7 chip to sell. At the very least big box companies like newegg and amazon would have at least had some kind of stock. Just you know if you don't have the chips just say it, instead of using semantics to lie to the masses into blindly searching everywhere for it. Heck if you search in amazon for i7 6700k it doesn't even show up anymore, only way to find it is if you have a direct link to the page.
 


How will it help Intel? They are selling the i7s to OEMs and vendors for the set tray price. Any price increase would usually result in profits for the vendors not Intel.

More than likely they are just a bit constrained on supply as 14nm is still newer so yields are not quit at their best yet. By the time the holiday season comes there will probably plenty of i7s with more models available.
 


Capitalism with "rules" assumes theirs a fair competition. Capitalism by nature is lais·sez-faire. Which isn't to say amd is doing bad, but for the most part in terms of performance you could argue intel has a partial monopoly on it. At least until zen comes out whenever that is. Well at least an over all majority in market share compared to every other processor maker in the market.
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If that were they case why weren't chips released everywhere? I mean if they had a limited stock wouldn't they want to evenly distribute chips everywhere? Instead of all the chips going to one area. Unless they have all their fabrication in only one single area in the middle of europe, seems fishy.
 


Actually a smart company goes after their major markets first then distributes to their smaller markets second. That is why Vaio is selling in Japan now (Japanese are pretty loyal to their own products first) and Vaio will slowly roll out their new products to the rest of the world. Even the US is considered a smaller market.
 
The thing is, the i7 is for sale, if you buy it inside a pre-built system. I don't know if Europe perhaps has less system builders, or if different rules over here allowed the system builders to gobble up every last i7 before it was released, but it seems that the only i7s available in North America all went to system builders. So they are technically for sale, just not as a single boxed item. I still fault Intel to some extent - they should have tried to balance the supply between the system builders and the retailers.
 


Let's not forget AMD owns X64.

In terms of total CPU sales, Intel is a niche player, since Intel is dwarfed by other CPU architectures in terms of sales. And a semi-major consumer OS (Linux) is fully capable of running on other architectures (ARM, PPC, POWER, SPARC, etc).

So no, under US and European law, Intel isn't even close to being considered a Monopoly. You've got plenty of non-X86 options, especially now that ARM is a thing.
 
So... since Skylake has already been in China for a while, does that mean China is Intel's biggest market currently? True turning point when they outnumber us in enthusiasts. I doubt the Chinese government is purchasing these chips on any scale which means it would be the Chinese wealthy and middle class purchasing them.
 




Granted maybe 5 or so years back. I will say however, amd has yet to show any major plays in the cpu/apu market. Ever since vishera a few years, back it's been pretty silent.

I will say however amd does have the value market cornered. Nothing intel releases for that low of a price compares to amd's chips.
 
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