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IF men or women can't argue over a few fps gains from a cpu then i don't want to live on this planet anymore! But really preference more then anything.
 


I am all for discussing it but man some of these responses are getting too heated.

I have considered both and for my next build I am highly considering a LGA 2011 build but there is no clear winner between Intels high end enthusiast range and their entry level extreme range except for in specific use scenarios.
 
]1) Dur... No maximum FPS. It's average. You now have nothing to say since both of us read the graph incorrectly.

Still an obvious GPU bottleneck compressing results. One reason I hate techspot, since they always end up with compressed CPU benchmark results.

2) It doesn't take as much threads to do 768P as 4K. Physics would be much less requiring.'

Resolution output and physics processing are entirely separate entities that are handled differently.

Physics falls into the "embarrassingly parallel" category anyway, and really shouldn't be performed on the CPU in the first place. That's one reason why all games use very simple physics engines, in order to drive down processing requirements. In any case, pretty much all games reduce physics down to just on game thread, since the implementation is so simple.

Pixel pushing is pure GPU horsepower. The number of threads for rendering remains constant regardless of the resolution you are trying to push.

3) Sigh... I don't know if you're bothering to read my reply. I said that where more threads are utilized (e.g.: video editing), more threads are better. In 4K, that apparently happens. That's why the i7-5820K pulls more FPS than i7-6700K at 2K or 4K.

A task like video editing scales nicely, and I would expect a linear performance increase as you increase the number of CPU cores.

Games do not scale nicely, at all. Games at 1080p. 2k or 4k use the same number of threads, since pixel output is the domain of the GPU, not CPU.

I also note the lack of benchmarks given to support your claim the 5820k is faster at 2k/4k, since a casual search on my end failed to confirm this.

4) No, I don't subscribe to the AMD fanboy logic. More cores doesn't equal more FPS. FX-8150 isn't the most powerful. What I said was, where games benefit from more threads, it's there that you pull more FPS if you had more cores. i5 is king at 1080P because it has enough single-threaded performance and cores. At 2K and 4K, like I said, i7-5820K has enough single-threaded performance and cores to do well there. At 720P, games were satisfied with Core 2 Duo. It's a combination of single-threaded performance and cores, not just cores.

See above point.

OK guys lets take a step back, take a breath and agree to disagree. Honestly why are people arguing over two great CPUs?

Because it's not OK to be technically wrong, then making an argument based on an incorrect understanding of how things worse. If we are going to recommend a product to others, we have to be correct on the reasons for recommending it. Simple as that.

Now, I'd love to give actual benchmarks to prove my point once and for all, but it seems every review site under the sun loves testing CPUs in GPU bottlenecked situations now, so every comparison I've found between the two lineups of CPUs comes up null, given the GPU compressing results. Really no reason sites shouldn't be doing these reviews right by using SLI'd 980 TIs or something.
 
X99 is superior platform. I can use a 5820k, and 3x sli, with an MSI X99S SLI Plus, without the need for a PLX chip. That is not possible with a 6700k. Or run 2x SLI, and still have another x16 slot, running @ x8 for any addon card I want.
 
Haswell vs Skylake, the performance differences are so minor, they would even be noticeable, except in benchmarks. Skylake isn't even vastly superior to Ivy, much less Haswell. With a few exceptions, it isn't much better than even Sandy, as sandy can overclock better. Lack of competition, from AMD, has made the CPU performance increases crawl ever slowly. 5820k also has more cache, than a 6700k. Buy the 6700k all you want, but I cannot see paying more for what is really an inferior alternative. Due to intel's supply issues, buying a 6700k makes little sense right now. If it was priced more like the 4790k, then I could see the 6700k being a good buy.
 


Even with a competitive offering from AMD I don't think the performance increases from Intel would be much better.

And with all of Intels releases, it seems to me that the performance increases are in areas we don't need or are due to software not being able to utilize the new features.

 
I haven't the time to read every reply to this, unfortunately. But in your personal opinions, if I were to be building a computer in roughly 4 months, would it make sense to wait a little while longer for the possibility of Broadwell-E? Less NMs, 50% more cores over 6600 (I'm currently set on that at the moment), etc.
I'm pretty disappointed with the performance per generation of Intel I series, since there's not a massive difference that I could see propelling me to get a certain one over another.
I don't know a lot about CPUs, obviously, but from what I've read above you guys don't seem sold on the 7th gen of Intel at the moment. Am I wrong? Let me know please.
I think I'm just foaming at the mouth for something new like a 5 year old seeing his friends with the newest Schwinn bike.
 


Don't get me wrong their are improvements it just depends on the chip you're comparing it to. If you have an old i7 nehalem or even older then yeah an i7 6700k most definitely will be a nice bump up. But you have to know what your current tech is what you're upgrading too. Plus the simple reality is chip manufacturers, will not make big leaps, because it would be bad for business and they'd risk alienating a ton of customers. Not to mention the logistics of making such a big supposed leap, it's just not going to happen for the foreseeable future, it's not worth it.
 
All I use my PC is for gaming @ 1440p

X99 or Z170 for future cpu upgrades?

I screwed my self 6 years ago with a socket that got killed (lga 1366)

I want a socket that can last for future cpu technolgy.
 


 
Yeah but gpu scaling isn't linear anything more then 2 gpu's is pointless, if we're talking about a pure price v performance standpoint 6 cores or more are pointless. Because the buy in to build that kind of system is much higher then skylake sure the cpu price's right now are 450, but if you factor in the cost of a good z170 mobo vs the cheapest x99 motherboard theirs just too big of a price jump to justify it.
 
5820k vs 6700k comes out pretty close, depending on board costs. I have found an i5 to be insufficient, for my needs, as I game and do other things at the same time. An i7 6700k would be better, for what I do. But if the plan is to keep the system an extended length of time, as I will be forced to do, the advantage goes back to the 5820k. Multithreaded support is coming, even if it is slower than we would like. Thankfully I also have a microcenter close enough to sweeten the deal. I am trying my hardest to wait for the 6800k.



 


6800K Skylake?
Have link?
 


Thank you.
Is there any link info?
I'm assuming this could be a $1000 chip?

 
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