Question Is my computer running games as it should ?

tagaria

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Hey everyone,

I'm reaching out because i feel like my computer is lacking in performance.
When I contacted the store where I bought the computer, they just said there's nothing they can do about it and that it’s normal. Asus said the same thing.
But here's the thing: Cyberpunk struggles to get above 50fps on medium and high graphics settings, and Kingdom Come Deliverance struggles to maintain 60fps on high settings.


3DMark:
Default: 5278
Custom: 4677 - 3440x1440

* I have tried a Windows Clean Install .
* Completely remove GPU driverswith guru3d(DDU), and reinstall drivers.



I paid a lot of money for high-tier components because I wanted to play games without constantly tweaking settings. Instead, I've spent all my time fine-tuning games just to get decent performance. I’m trying to figure out if I'm in the wrong here, or if the store is not being honest with me.

The case is, i feel like i got nothing close to what i paid for.


My Computer Specs:

Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix B550-F GAMING
Case: Fractal Design Define 7 Mid Tower (FD-C-DEF7A-01)
Fans: 2x 140mm front, 1x 140mm rear
GPU: ASUS GeForce RTX 3080 TI TUF GAMING OC (TUF-RTX3080TI-O12G-GAMING)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X Processor (100-100000061WOF)
CPU Cooler: Corsair iCUE H100i RGB PRO XT (CW-9060043-WW)
RAM: HyperX Fury DDR4 3200MHz 32GB (HX432C16FB4K2/32)
SSD: WD Black SN850 1TB M.2 NVMe (WDS100T1X0E-00AFY0)
HDD: Seagate BarraCuda 2TB 3.5'' (ST2000DM008)
PSU: Corsair RM850x, 850W, 80 PLUS Gold (CP-9020188-EU)
Additional Fan: Noctua NF-A14 iPPC-3000 PWM 140mm (NF-A14 IPPC-3000 PWM)
OS: Windows 11 Home

Total Cost: $3,534


My Questions:
  1. Are these benchmark scores normal for my setup?
  2. Should I expect better performance in games like Cyberpunk and Kingdom Come Deliverance given my hardware?
  3. Is there something wrong with my configuration, or am I expecting too much?
  4. Any tips on what might be causing these performance issues?

I really appreciate any help or insights you can provide. Thanks!
 

Lutfij

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I have tried a Windows Clean Install .
Where did you source the installer for your OS?

Completely remove GPU driverswith guru3d(DDU), and reinstall drivers.
Removing all drivers(Intel, AMD and Nvidia) in Safe Mode, then manually reinstalling with the latest driver version sourced from Nvidia's support site in an elevated command?

Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix B550-F GAMING (ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING)
BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time?

PSU: Corsair RM850x, 850W, 80 PLUS Gold (CP-9020188-EU)
I'd have asked you to go for a higher wattage PSU for your build, something close to 1KW.

What sort of temps do you see when the platform is taxed? Do you claw back and FPS if you lower the resolution?
 

Phaaze88

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Probably a good idea to go into bios and make sure DOCP(Asus mobos) is enabled for the ram. It's not enabled by default(which is 2400mhz). It might provide a few fps boost; the non-X3D AM4s did better with faster ram.

I paid a lot of money for high-tier components because I wanted to play games without constantly tweaking settings.
~No, high tier parts does not avoid this. Just knowing that there are different game engines means that settings from one title isn't optimal for another/others. Tweaking settings from one title to another comes with the territory.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-founders-edition/10.html
Seems about right if you're talking about 4K.
Seems about the same for KC: D going by a few youtube videos I skimmed through and take with a grain of salt.
 
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tagaria

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I have tried a Windows Clean Install .
Where did you source the installer for your OS?

Completely remove GPU driverswith guru3d(DDU), and reinstall drivers.
Removing all drivers(Intel, AMD and Nvidia) in Safe Mode, then manually reinstalling with the latest driver version sourced from Nvidia's support site in an elevated command?

Motherboard: ASUS ROG Strix B550-F GAMING (ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING)
BIOS version for your motherboard at this moment of time?

PSU: Corsair RM850x, 850W, 80 PLUS Gold (CP-9020188-EU)
I'd have asked you to go for a higher wattage PSU for your build, something close to 1KW.

What sort of temps do you see when the platform is taxed? Do you claw back and FPS if you lower the resolution?
OS Installation Source: I performed a clean Windows installation using the built-in Windows reset function.

I used DDU in safe mode to clean out both AMD and Nvidia drivers. When you say "elevated," are you referring to downloading drivers as admin? Because I don't think I did that.

BIOS Version: The BIOS version for my motherboard is: 2803 x64.

I hope you don't mind that i am asking, but I'm curious about why you recommend 1kW power supply instead of the 850W that the store recommended. I dont doubt you, I'm just interested in understanding the reason, since store said 850W.

During gaming sessions, both GPU and CPU temperatures remain within the range of 50-80°C, but 80°C is rare. During idle periods, temperatures hover between 30-40°C.

I've been adjusting the resolution settings, but I haven't noticed much improvement in performance. Just to let you know, I'm using the ACER PREDATOR X34 GS 34.
 
Yeah, as above, the UQHD monitor is about a 15% tax over normal QHD. The 3080ti is a very strong card, but those games you play are demanding even for it at that res.

Could be a bios related hardware bug. If you are running anything older than AGESA 1.2.0.7 bios, then that could be the issue.
 

tagaria

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Probably a good idea to go into bios and make sure DOCP(Asus mobos) is enabled for the ram. It's not enabled by default(which is 2400mhz). It might provide a few fps boost; the non-X3D AM4s did better with faster ram.


~No, high tier parts does not avoid this. Just knowing that there are different game engines means that settings from one title isn't optimal for another/others. Tweaking settings from one title to another comes with the territory.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-founders-edition/10.html
Seems about right if you're talking about 4K.
Seems about the same for KC: D going by a few youtube videos I skimmed through and take with a grain of salt.
I went to BIOS and enabled DOCP.
I am pretty bad at this, i saw BCLK frequency was at 100 when i enabled DOCP.
I am not sure what BCLK is, and if 100 is correct?

Yeah, i understand. I just feel like i have to do it more than i expected. Just tell me if i am in the wrong here, i dont mind!

It is ACER PREDATOR X34 GS 34, a 2K monitor.
 
I hope you don't mind that i am asking, but I'm curious about why you recommend 1kW power supply instead of the 850W that the store recommended. I dont doubt you, I'm just interested in understanding the reason, since store said 850W.
IN THEORY.
The 3080ti is a 350W card if it runs normally so the power spikes can reach double that at 700W which would only leave 150W for your CPU and everything else in your system. So to prevent crashes or shut downs from transient spikes he is suggesting 1k.
In practice if you don't have any issues don't change anything.
 

tagaria

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IN THEORY.
The 3080ti is a 350W card if it runs normally so the power spikes can reach double that at 700W which would only leave 150W for your CPU and everything else in your system. So to prevent crashes or shut downs from transient spikes he is suggesting 1k.
In practice if you don't have any issues don't change anything.
I see. Thanks!
 
A breakdown on that 3DMark score might be helpful because at first glance it does seem like you're not getting the most out of your system. You should be getting better performance than I am in CP2077, but it doesn't sound like you are.
You are gaming on 1440p ultrawide so larger than 1440p resolution, closer to 4k really. Benchmark for cyberpunk shows 43FPS for 4k and 80 for 1440p
So around 50 could be normal for your resolution.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-founders-edition/10.html
It's not closer to 4k than 1440p and this is something I see claimed far too often.

1440p 16:9 = 3686400 pixels
1440p 21:9 = 4953600 pixels (+34.375% over 1440p)
"4k" 16:9 = 8294400 pixels (+125% over 1440p)
 
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tagaria

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A breakdown on that 3DMark score might be helpful because at first glance it does seem like you're not getting the most out of your system. You should be getting better performance than I am in CP2077, but it doesn't sound like you are.

It's not closer to 4k than 1440p and this is something I see claimed far too often.

1440p 16:9 = 3686400 pixels
1440p 21:9 = 4953600 pixels (+34.375% over 1440p)
"4k" 16:9 = 8294400 pixels (+125% over 1440p)
I am not sure if you requested this or not, but i read into it that you did! So here is a breakdown of a 3DMark test.

Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti
Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
Memory: 32GB DDR4

Graphics Test Score: 46.30 FPS

System Information:
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, 12GB GDDR6X
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, 12 cores / 24 threads
Display Resolution: 3440 × 1440
OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Performance Metrics:

GPU Load: 99%
Average GPU Temperature: 67.44°C
Average CPU Temperature: 53.64°C

Settings Used:
Resolution: 3440 × 1440
Vsync: Off
Fullscreen: Yes
HDR: Disabled
Detailed Scores:

Graphics Test: 46.30 FPS
Monitoring Information:

CPU Clock Frequency: Up to 4940 MHz
GPU Clock Frequency: Up to 1965 MHz
GPU Memory Clock Frequency: 1188 MHz
 
I am not sure if you requested this or not, but i read into it that you did! So here is a breakdown of a 3DMark test.

Graphics Card: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti
Processor: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core Processor
Memory: 32GB DDR4

Graphics Test Score: 46.30 FPS

System Information:
GPU: NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti, 12GB GDDR6X
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5900X, 12 cores / 24 threads
Display Resolution: 3440 × 1440
OS: Windows 11 64-bit
Performance Metrics:

GPU Load: 99%
Average GPU Temperature: 67.44°C
Average CPU Temperature: 53.64°C

Settings Used:
Resolution: 3440 × 1440
Vsync: Off
Fullscreen: Yes
HDR: Disabled
Detailed Scores:

Graphics Test: 46.30 FPS
Monitoring Information:

CPU Clock Frequency: Up to 4940 MHz
GPU Clock Frequency: Up to 1965 MHz
GPU Memory Clock Frequency: 1188 MHz
Not really useful because of the custom resolution. Just run standard settings Time Spy and check the CPU/GPU results and compare them to others using the same. The whole point of benchmarks is standardized settings so you can get an idea whether as to where your equipment is performing.

Clockspeeds and usage seem like they're right, but that's really all one can tell from that.

You should also make sure these show up this way on your results as they have negative performance impact on Win11:
VBS status: Disabled
HVCI status: Disabled
 
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tagaria

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Not really useful because of the custom resolution. Just run standard settings Time Spy and check the CPU/GPU results and compare them to others using the same. The whole point of benchmarks is standardized settings so you can get an idea whether as to where your equipment is performing.

Clockspeeds and usage seem like they're right, but that's really all one can tell from that.

You should also make sure these show up this way on your results as they have negative performance impact on Win11:
VBS status: Disabled
HVCI status: Disabled
I understand, thanks! Im just posting the scores here for future reference, if anyone find them useful.
  • Overall Score: 9,242
  • Graphics Score: 9,702
  • CPU Score: 7,286
Also, i want to add, the score says i can run Red Dead Redemtion 2 Ultra 80+fps. This is not true.