John Carmack is a wanker

[AdamB5000]

i have always said that quad core and dx10 wont be mainstream
for atleast another year.

Adding to that, did you know that the moon revolves around the earth?! Preetty cool stuff. I have always said that it'll continue to do that until something else happens. 😱

 

[chuckshissle]

He's trying to be the next Bill Gates, only he looks more idiotic.

Why do you care about what another guy looks like?....are you fuking gay or something?.....or do you just think that you look so much better than him?

Post a pic of yourself man....let us all be the judge of this.

Oh gee, sorry to hurt your sensitive feelings with a joke. :roll:

 

[dokk]

I cant believe that most of the posters in this thread dont even know who Carmack is....it's freakin' pathetic.

....then to throw up a picture of the guy and complain that he looks like a nerd :roll:

It's time to clean house.

I still get heartfelt nostalgia when thinking about Quake II...


How about Quake 1 on a 50MHZ/340Meg hdd/1Meg video/a logitech "soapbar"
3 button mouse,man!! those were the days,Carmack was a god to all fps players.
You baichers do not know how good and easy you have it now a days,you do not have to load drivers for your cd/dvd's.you do not have to set up your sound cards,your mouse, etc,etc,in fact were it not for Carmack and these with him who developed the original Doom it is hard to say where gaming would be today,just for your entertainment imagine if it had been B.Gates who had designed Doom instead..Eh What ???

 

[mpjesse]

He's trying to be the next Bill Gates, only he looks more idiotic.

Why do you care about what another guy looks like?....are you fuking gay or something?.....or do you just think that you look so much better than him?

Post a pic of yourself man....let us all be the judge of this.

i've had a picture of myself in my signature for months now. and by no means am I a stud... but at least i have a sense of STYLE.

and yes, i'm a dearest comrade.

(dude... chill out. i'm just joking around here at someone else's expense. no need to get all defensive of the uber nerd. i think he's doing just fine without you... and me.)

 

[mpjesse]

In response to everyone who has brought up good points about what Carmack said:

he's still a wanker


(seriously folks, I'm just kidding around. i really think he's irrelevant, but i'm sure he's a nice guy. he's brought us a couple good games in his career and i'm thankful)

 

[ragemonkey]

please define, wanker.

 

[monkeymanuk]

It's a britishism!

wanker=5 knuckle shuffler=bishop basher

 

[muffin]

Apologies for the off-topic post here, but what's the "Britishism" for a woman doin' the same thing? I know a woman who watches Coronation Street (ugh!) and also "messes with" herself when I'm not around. It'd be fun to spring a new term on her.

 

[monkeymanuk]

I believe the term is strumming!

 

[muffin]

LOL! Thanks, that's a good one!

 

[djgandy]

http://www.dailytech.com/John+Carmack+Speaks+on+DX10+Vista+Xbox+360+PS3+Wii/article5665.htm

Is it just me, or is he out of touch with the rest of the gaming world? He's turning into another American McGee... a victim of his own celebrity status.

On dual core/multicore processors:
“So we’re dealing with it, but it’s an aspect of the landscape that obviously would have been better if we would have been able to get more gigahertz in a processor core. But life didn’t turn out like that, and we have to just take the best advantage with it.”

Ok buddy... most of your peers disagree and Doom3 still sucks.

On DX10:

“All the high-end video cards right now -- video cards across the board --are great nowadays,” he said. “Personally, I wouldn’t jump at something like DX10 right now. I would let things settle out a little bit and wait until there’s a really strong need for it.”

I guess he hasn't seen the Crysis trailers. 75% of all games in development are DX10 titles. The only shite game that isn't is his Quake Wars.

This guy is officially irrelevant IMO.

You obviously know nothing about the work that is put into game development, or how long it actually takes to make game.
Also because 10 is larger than 9 it doesn't automatically make it better.

Oh you also forgot that to use DX10 you need vista. Carmack is obviously smarter than you and has realised he can target a larger userbase by using DX9.

 

[cleeve]

I'd like to add that, if I'm not mistaken, all the games that Id software publish are OpenGL based.

I get the feeling, if he's pimping the X360 now, that their next engine will be Dx based...

 

[NamelessMC]

I'm glad a thread surfaced like this.

Why? Because I have a profound respect for John Carmack and everything he's done for PC Gaming and programming in general, and I also get to see who all the idiots are on this forum in one convenient little spot.

I get to make the Naughty and Nice list for later dates when I can come out and clean up shop.

First-
Just because you read articles on processor technology and bench-mark PC parts, doesn't mean you know jack squat about programming. Programming, quite simply, is the most difficult aspect of gaming. You spend hours and hours putting code together, just to see "Conflict" "Conflict" "Error" "Error" because of one or two wrong letters or figures.

Multi-core processing was convenient for Intel/AMD but inconvenient for software developers. "Hey I don't see us hitting 5 gigahertz cheaply on a single core. Let's just put two cores together and let those stupid developers deal with it." He's 100% right about how development in general would've been much easier with the gigahertz race than it is now. And don't say stupid **** like, "Well he just has to deal with it." No... YOU have to deal with it. Everyone does. When a conflict like this happens, where hardware manufacturers aren't listening to the most popular developers, you start to have things not working in sync.

Second -
No one can deny what he said about Vista and DX10. You need Vista to use DX10? All it has are upgraded shaders. What could possibly be so complicated about the shader technology that would require the necessity of an entirely different operating system? Windows XP has been called the most stable version of Windows ever.

Microsoft knew that people would need something more concrete than "increased security" and "visual upgrades" to need to upgrade to Vista, so they decided, "Hey let's make Direct X10 Vista-only".

He saw right through it, and guess what? When Quake Wars releases, people aren't going to be able to tell what the differences are between the shading in a DX9 game and a DX10 game, they'll only blindly say Crysis is better looking because they're on the whole DX10/8800/R600 bandwagon.

And for all of you talking trash, I seriously doubt anyone in this thread is some good looking model, and I'd take a guess that over 80% of the posters in this thread are over-weight unhealthy low-income slobs, so I don't get where you can post a picture of John Carmack and insult the man who single-handedly reconstructed PC Gaming to the level it is now.

Epic Games, EA Games, Sierra (Valve), Ubi Soft, Bungee... Wanna know what kinds of games they were making back when Doom came out? Quake?

Epic could make 3 more hit sellers like Gears of War and they wouldn't be able to touch the tip of how much John Carmack made off of Quake III Arena alone.

None of you would even be on this site doing anything PC related if it weren't for John Carmack. There just wouldn't have been a need for it. The best PC games people would be playing right now is Minesweeper 2007 if it weren't for Carmack.

 

[mpjesse]

Oh you also forgot that to use DX10 you need vista. Carmack is obviously smarter than you and has realised he can target a larger userbase by using DX9.

Genious,

DX10 games will be backwards compatible with DX9. So vista adds nor removes any userbase.

And yes, i get that DX10 is all about selling copies of Vista. But gee... what profound observation Carmack has made. The rest of the world has only been saying this for 8 months now.

The man is irrelevant. Only thing he's got going on right now is that stupid cell phone gig, which isn't exactly breaking any new ground.

 

[djgandy]

Oh you also forgot that to use DX10 you need vista. Carmack is obviously smarter than you and has realised he can target a larger userbase by using DX9.

Genious,

DX10 games will be backwards compatible with DX9. So vista adds nor removes any userbase.

And yes, i get that DX10 is all about selling copies of Vista. But gee... what profound observation Carmack has made. The rest of the world has only been saying this for 8 months now.

The man is irrelevant. Only thing he's got going on right now is that stupid cell phone gig, which isn't exactly breaking any new ground.

Where did you read it will be backwards compatible?
Please enforce your arguement.
Last time i checked, if a dll is missing the windows loader will not run the process. So a game relying on a dll from dx10 is not going to run on windows XP unless the developers write it to.

 

[NamelessMC]

Oh you also forgot that to use DX10 you need vista. Carmack is obviously smarter than you and has realised he can target a larger userbase by using DX9.

Genious,

DX10 games will be backwards compatible with DX9. So vista adds nor removes any userbase.

And yes, i get that DX10 is all about selling copies of Vista. But gee... what profound observation Carmack has made. The rest of the world has only been saying this for 8 months now.

The man is irrelevant. Only thing he's got going on right now is that stupid cell phone gig, which isn't exactly breaking any new ground.
"DX10 games will be backwards compatible with DX9. So vista adds nor removes any userbase."

You couldn't be more wrong, but then again, from a poster like you, what can one expect? DX10 is not backwards compatible with DX9. Developers have to write separate DX9 code line to MAKE it DX9 compatible. Crysis isn't fully implementing DX10 code and it doesn't have full DX9 support, hence it will run like crap no matter what card you have.

What an idiot. You don't know anything about computer gaming or PCs in general. You are entirely worthless not only to the majority of this board but to the world entirely and undoubtedly to those around you as well.

If you don't know how important Carmack is to the PC Gaming industry, even today, you only make it more self evident how ignorant one can be.

 

[mpjesse]

HOLY cow. So you're telling me you actually believe that Crysis will only run on Vista? OR that you'll need a 8800 series or R600 to play Crysis? Dude, I'm not even bother reinforcing my argument because I'm right. DX10 titles WILL run on Windows XP/DX9 for at least a year or two. If you don't believe me then go ahead and wallow in your ignorance. But I suggest you go do some reading on DX10.

No one is going to write DX10 only titles for at least another year.

 

[mpjesse]

Buauhahahaah... so you're saying that when I install Vista (w/ DX10) that all my old DX9 games won't work anymore? lmao. get lost.

look dude, i GET that DX10 titles have to be written to work w/ DX9. but no current title in development is DX10 only yet. and it won't be for a long time. :roll:

 

[djgandy]

HOLY cow. So you're telling me you actually believe that Crysis will only run on Vista? OR that you'll need a 8800 series or R600 to play Crysis? Dude, I'm not even bother reinforcing my argument because I'm right. DX10 titles WILL run on Windows XP/DX9 for at least a year or two. If you don't believe me then go ahead and wallow in your ignorance. But I suggest you go do some reading on DX10.

No one is going to write DX10 only titles for at least another year.

I don't need to read up on it. I know how graphics API's work thanks.
I also know that it will mean building 2 seperate versions.
If DX10 is so advantageous it would mean a lot of extra work. If it's not then why are we bothering?

If you are writing an engine which a lot of games are to be based on the idea is to make it easy to develop for. If programmers are going to have to hack in loads of code to make it work for 2 different versions of an API they are going to get pissed off.

 

[NamelessMC]

HOLY cow. So you're telling me you actually believe that Crysis will only run on Vista? OR that you'll need a 8800 series or R600 to play Crysis? Dude, I'm not even bother reinforcing my argument because I'm right. DX10 titles WILL run on Windows XP/DX9 for at least a year or two. If you don't believe me then go ahead and wallow in your ignorance. But I suggest you go do some reading on DX10.

No one is going to write DX10 only titles for at least another year.

That's not what you said, Captain Ignorance. You said DX10 is DX9 backwards compatible. You should really correct yourself before you stick your foot in your over-rated mouth.

DX10 is NOT backwards compatible with DX9. EVERY SINGLE DX10 GAME that has DX 9 support had to have TWO API's in development

Get it through your skull no matter how thick the bone is.

You're the one who needs to read up on what you're talking about. It's a known fact that one of the reasons Crysis is having playability issues is because it's too early in DX10 lifetime to fully implement the shaders and code, and it's too late in development to make a fully implemented DX9 code path with how much time they used programming the DX10 code path.

In fact, it's a safe bet that all the games in the next year or two that use DX10 are going to SUCK horribly, because development time will have been used implementing DX9 and DX10.

Why is John Carmack a genius? He's making a game that's gonna sell like hot-cakes that only uses one API in development, so he's going to spend more time on the other issues of gaming that games like Crysis won't get.

Do you have ANY idea how long it takes to program a game with two APIs? That means TWO phases of trouble-shooting, beta testing and code correction. Carmack said, "Screw all that, DX9 is good enough, we'll make our game only use that API. DX10 cards can render DX9 shaders anyway."

 

[djgandy]

Buauhahahaah... so you're saying that when I install Vista (w/ DX10) that all my old DX9 games won't work anymore? lmao. get lost.

look dude, i GET that DX10 titles have to be written to work w/ DX9. but no current title in development is DX10 only yet. and it won't be for a long time. :roll:

This has changed with DirectX 10, which uses a legacy version of DirectX 9.0c (9.0 EX) to support older platforms.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX

Yes you can still run your old games. You were argueing that DX10 games would run on XP though. They won't. If they do then they are NOT DX10.
Simple logic will explain this.

 

[mpjesse]

Yes it's more work, but this same scenario has been going on since DX7. They'll get over it.

As for Carmack... i acknowledged the dude used to be a powerful force in gaming. But he just isn't anymore. He's a nobody... and he probably prefers it that way. Why the hell else would he be writing cell phone games? He probably just wants to have a stress free job and spend his money. That's cool. But Aanadtech idolizing him and pretending like the guy still matters is just obnoxious.

Call me when he goes back to work for Id, Crytek, or Valve. Until then, in my opinion, he has nothing important to say.

 

[djgandy]

heh, when i read your first post i thought, "wow, someone who knows what they are talking about".

I wasn't wrong 😉

 

[mpjesse]

where did i say DX10 will run on XP? what i said is games written FOR DX10 will work with DX9 (or WinXP)... for the time being.

as i said, no title in development is being written for DX10 ONLY. none that I know of anyways. Crysis, Bioshock, Alan Wake, etc are all going to be backwards compatible with DX9.

 

[djgandy]

DX10 titles WILL run on Windows XP/DX9 for at least a year or two. If you don't believe me then go ahead and wallow in your ignorance. But I suggest you go do some reading on DX10.

If its DX9 its NOT DX10, so what are you trying to say here then.

DX 10 titles will run on Vista
DX 9 titles will run on windows XP

Oh wait, we already knew that!

EDIT: I never said you said DX10 would run on XP. I said you said DX10 games will. Now If DX10 wont work on xp how will the games work? It's the API they rely on to run. Without it they CANNOT run.