John Carmack is a wanker

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Yes it's more work, but this same scenario has been going on since DX7. They'll get over it.

As for Carmack... i acknowledged the dude used to be a powerful force in gaming. But he just isn't anymore. He's a nobody... and he probably prefers it that way. Why the hell else would he be writing cell phone games? He probably just wants to have a stress free job and spend his money. That's cool. But Aanadtech idolizing him and pretending like the guy still matters is just obnoxious.

Call me when he goes back to work for Id, Crytek, or Valve. Until then, in my opinion, he has nothing important to say.
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You can't re-enforce your argument, because in every post the only thing you re-enforce is lame opinionated argument.

You say he's a nobody. Who are you? Maybe you should work for Epic Games, Crytek or Valve before you judge Carmack. Carmack is a force that people won't disregard. Companies will always be companies, but genius developers have the power to make millions no matter what company they work for. Carmack was behind Doom, behind Quake and could easily turn around and bring something else out that will turn gaming around again.

You talk about Carmack like he's a retired boxer. This is PC Gaming, not the NFL or the UFC. Doom 3 might be old news now, but that's because the PC gaming industry moves fast. Doom 3 still only came out a few years ago. How long was the gap between Half Life and Half Life 2? How long was the gap between Halo 2 and Halo 3? How long was the gap between Warcraft III and World of Warcraft?

You don't get it do you? Patient developers conquer the industry because instead of making crappy $4-6 million net profit titles once every year, they save their good ideas and drop 50-100$ million + titles every 3-5 years. Carmack is still raking in millions for the Quake 3 and Doom 3 engines, so I'm tempted to agree with whatever he says, even compared to developers like Epic or Bungee.

He could be making Gameboy Advance games and I'd still value his opinion over any other developer, because he's BEEN here since the beginning and has a higher sample size than any other developer. He could make a multi million dollar title, with great graphics, a great engine and great online support for half the resources any new developer could.
 
First let me say the guy is a GOD

He used OpenGL for his game engines, and from what i have seen open GL is better and will better then Direct x 10 so i think his point is well taken

Also If it were not for him there would be NO FPS games. or at least it would not be as advanced as it is today.

Go back and play wolf 3D, doom 1,2,final and Quake 1,2,3 and then try and say with a strait face that he sucks.. Also the guy builds rockets and collects cars how more do you want out of a guy.

Also you have to take into account the his speeches are so technical the you have to be in CS to get anything out of them, chances are that this interview was watered down and a lot of stuff was lost in doing so
 
OK.. you're misunderstanding what i'm saying. A thousand apologies.

When I say DX10 titles, I'm refering to the games coming out that are written with DX10 in mind. Those titles would be Crysis, Alan Wake, and Bioshock to name a few.

99% of the gaming world is refering to those titles as "DX10 titles/games" However, they're all being written for DX9 too. Thus, all those titles will work on WinXP.
 
There was a tournament hosted in California, and one of my room-mates friends competed in it.

It was a Quake 3 Arena tournament and the winner got to meet John Carmack and keep whatever car he drove in on.

He gave away a Ferrari 355 and to put it bluntly, the winner said, "The car isn't as much of a big thing to me as meeting Carmack".

Any veteran gamers feel the same way. You don't because you're probably some teeny bopper that hopped on PC gaming when Counter-strike became popular.

It's okay guys, he's just some kid whose parents really need to restrict internet access.
 
You say he's a nobody. Who are you? Maybe you should work for Epic Games, Crytek or Valve before you judge Carmack.
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If you only knew. Consequently that argument is the same one everyone uses to defend arseholes like Bush. "Oh yeah... if you think you can do better run for President..."

Carmack hadn't invent 3d gaming, he invented the FPS... the whole industry was moving that way back then anyways. It was inevitable. (I guess you forgot that StarFox for SNES was released just months after Wolf 3D... StarFox was developed by Japs who had never even heard of Wolf 3D until it was nearly released). You probably also don't realize that Pilot Wings for SNES was released before Wolf 3D....

So I'll give credit to him for FPS style, but not 3D. Many 3D games existed before Wolf 3d.
 
There was a tournament hosted in California, and one of my room-mates friends competed in it.

It was a Quake 3 Arena tournament and the winner got to meet John Carmack and keep whatever car he drove in on.

He gave away a Ferrari 355 and to put it bluntly, the winner said, "The car isn't as much of a big thing to me as meeting Carmack".

Any veteran gamers feel the same way. You don't because you're probably some teeny bopper that hopped on PC gaming when Counter-strike became popular.

It's okay guys, he's just some kid whose parents really need to restrict internet access.
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Continuing with the personal attacks. <sigh> And FYI, i started gaming w/ an Atari 2600. I still remember the first time i played Wolf 3d and where I was. I'll never forget it.

I'm probably older than you. But go ahead... say it. I'll give you the last word even though I know what you're going to say.
 
You say he's a nobody. Who are you? Maybe you should work for Epic Games, Crytek or Valve before you judge Carmack.
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If you only knew. Consequently that argument is the same one everyone uses to defend arseholes like Bush. "Oh yeah... if you think you can do better run for President..."

Carmack hadn't invent 3d gaming, he invented the FPS... the whole industry was moving that way back then anyways. It was inevitable. (I guess you forgot that StarFox for SNES was released just months after Wolf 3D... StarFox was developed by Japs who had never even heard of Wolf 3D until it was nearly released). You probably also don't realize that Pilot Wings for SNES was released before Wolf 3D....

So I'll give credit to him for FPS style, but not 3D. Many 3D games existed before Wolf 3d.

Thanks for making what was already an easy flame victory for me, oh so easier and sweeter.

It was released in the spring of 1993 for the SNES.
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It was created by id Software and published by Apogee Software on May 5, 1992 for DOS.
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And to add, calling Japanese "Japs" isn't a proper abbreviation, it's a racial slur that was used in the 1940's when Japanese-American innocent civilians were thrown into concentration camps and racially discriminated against during the World War II. The only people that say it's a proper abbreviation are idiots.

And to further add, how does a game that was released after Wolf 3d, take credit for 3d gaming? Firstly, Starfox wasn't 3d. It used polygon graphics and rendering yes, but it wasn't 3d. It was platform plane shooting from a first person perspective. Top Gun on NES could easily be called 3d, but it isn't either. What made Wolf 3d different and unique was the independent control from a 3d first person perspective.
 
a thousand apologies. i was a few months off. here's a fcuking cookie, you got me.


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a thousand apologies. i was a few months off. here's a fcuking cookie, you got me.


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I'll translate this message for other people so they can see what you were really saying.

Hey I lost an argument, so I'm gonna cuss and post a picture to try to make myself seem credible and intelligent
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Grow up buddy, I don't need to hear your estimations of how old either of us is, to know you're immature.

EDIT: And neither John Carmack nor Nintendo takes credit for 3d gaming. Credit for that goes to a game called Spasim which was released in 1974 and is the most earliest noted 3d game.

John Carmack takes credit for, and get ready for this because I said it before, making PC gaming what it is today! I said NOT ONE THING about console gaming.

I said, quite simply and I'll put it in a nice quotable format-
"Without Carmack, gaming on PC wouldn't be where it is today, at all."

No one would've taken PC gaming seriously. John Carmack made the first huge PC title that was so good, people ported it to console systems.

If John Carmack and ID software didn't make Wolf 3d, we wouldn't have graphics accelerator cards or direct X. PC Gaming just wouldn't have been a big scene.
 
@ mpjesse, NamelessMC, djgandy, and so many others: :roll:

@ John Carmack: :trophy:

I never realized being a leading game engine programmer and a rocket scientist would be so hard. I'd give up games entirely and fly off into space myself if this is what the average gamer is like.
 
look dude, i GET that DX10 titles have to be written to work w/ DX9. but no current title in development is DX10 only yet. and it won't be for a long time. :roll:
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You are demonstrating more and more that you know nothing of actual game development.

Game Design Documents are already being drawn up and have been already for DX10 only and for the Xbox 360 replacement since late 2006, for development work commencing in 2007.

Oh, and before you mock mobile gaming, you clearly have NOT been anywhere near E3 for the past 3 years, or you'd know precisely where publishers are raking in their money from.
 
Wanker :lol:

All these programers now day, all they do is cry because they just dont want to change they way things are. We do not like change at all, so i can see why they would rather have the speed race, instead of the multicore race. Get off your lazy asses and make it work you buch of crying bastards you get pay to improve programing not whine about it.
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Developers can actually change a lot quicker than you think. Unfortunately, 90% of user's systems cannot in order to keep up.
 
I'm glad to see that there's a few posters here that respect what Carmack's done for the industry....and the guy isn't done yet, so I hate talking about him in past-tense. To all the haters, type "megatexture" into your search engine, and understand that the guy is still revolutionizing the game industry in terms of programming and optimisations, and once again let me comment on how disappointing this forum is to me now, because it judges key players in our industry on the way the appear in person :roll:

If you care about the way another man looks, it says a lot about you as a person, and I'd personally rather you didn't post here.

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Let me add that I recently judged another by his looks that posts here, and in recompense, I ended up feeling pretty stupid about it, hence my objection to you guy's doing the same thing to John Carmack. It's simply bad character.
 
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Let me add that I recently judged another by his looks that posts here, and in recompense, I ended up feeling pretty stupid about it, hence my objection to you guy's doing the same thing to John Carmack. It's simply bad character
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you guys havent seen a pic of me.
if you did the forums would be empty :lol:

***all members running and screaming in fear of their lives***
 
Well said.
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which part :lol:

me making fun of myself?

or that carmack,s statments?

seems he wants to optimize current hardware and software.
im all for that.

everybodyelse wants to jump to the next level, without
seeing what can be done with current stuff.

i understand taking it to the next level. thats evolution.
carmack seems reluctant on that part though.

thats what suprised me about some of his statements.

but i can kinda understand him as im in the automotive field
and get an idea of what he is talking about,.
 
Yeah, I agree jesse. He's getting more acknowlegement than he deserves right now.
1993, ofcourse. He was god. Doom changed the whole basis of 3D. Physics, lighting, sectors. It was beautiful and a 180 degree turn from Wolf3D. I fully understand the credit given there. Quake3 and Doom3 were all ground breaking and massively popular, but taking credit where it shouldn't be taken deserves a few bad credit marks.
 
anyway. hows it going g.w. you holdin out in this ice world we now have. :lol:
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Solid freakin' ice! 😀

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Where do you live?

Nice image noise, is that ISO 800? We got some frost, but it's been below average lately, I have mild winters.
 
anyway. hows it going g.w. you holdin out in this ice world we now have. :lol:
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Solid freakin' ice! 😀

2h7mid1.jpg


Where do you live?

Nice image noise, is that ISO 800? We got some frost, but it's been below average lately, I have mild winters.

-3 F and 4 inches of snow here. Drove my car into a ditch outside my house. :lol:
Just last week it was 55 F. :?
 
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