Just Buy It: Why Nvidia RTX GPUs Are Worth the Money

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Thanks for chiming in. This article made me lose faith in tomshardware but you have partially restored it. I have relied on your reviews in the past and I always look forward to a Chris' best GPU/price articles. If I got your ear, please include VRAM usage the next time you do a comparison between GPUs with different memory size such as the 1060 3GB vs 1060 6GB. I'd be willing to bet the performance gap is due more to less CUDA cores and not the memory size.
 
The end of the article has a disclaimer that it's just an opinion piece. Problem is, the article is riddled with sophistry, word salad and meaningless appeals to peer pressure as a reason for buying something. There are no actual arguments in the article based on facts, reason and evidence.

Dear toms editor, something being an opinion does not make it worthy of publication. Could you really not find anyone who was capable of writing a more reasoned piece about all this as a counter to Derek's article? Even if it was just something along the lines of, well some people like being the ones who can boast they are first with the latest tech? (and hence, if they have the money and are happy to spend it, who cares, despite the supposed social benefits of being an early adopter likely being a lot less than they think they are) One could write something like that without sounding like a shill. This article though, and calling it an article is a real stretch, read more like a shout out to the crowd who like to post "First!!" on any youtube video (creds to GN for that neat way of putting it).

If someone like Derek writes a reasonable article about why it makes sense to delay buying an RTX card, merely negating what was said and mixing it up with word salad does not constitute an argument. What we end up with is basically someone saying buy something precisely because it's expensive because then you can boast about it. Sheesh...
 
As an aside, how the heck does one edit comments these days? I want to correct a typo in my post and add a nod to GN for pinching their excellent YT ref, but I can't seem to logon to the UK site anymore (which looks weird now), while the US comments layout has no editing buttons.
 


Just above the first comment in the article, there is a "COMMENT FROM THE FORUMS" link, from there you can find and edit your comment.
 
Maybe its just me but I already play games at 4k resolution on an overclocked 1080 ti with a steady (capped) 60fps. Most games on either high or ultra settings.

If new upcoming games turn out too heavy for the 1080 ti I will switch from the 4k monitor to my 1440p one - a much cheaper solution.

Nobody needs more then 60fps, your brain does nothing with the extra frames.
 


Probably yes to both ... I really have no idea since all I do is make sure people behave appropriately in the forums.

I can't speak for the staff ...
 


Some good points ... thanks for the candour and the polite way you put things ... refreshing.
 
This is probably the worst article I've ever read on Toms hardware. Avram Piltch, you should be fired, for such a terrible horrible article. Isn't Tom's in the business of reviewing hardware? Doesn't this article just defeat the whole reason this site exists? This feels like a PR machine for Nvidia.
 


Getting fired for it is a bit strong.. But I agree with your points.
 

Opinion is fine and dandy, everyone has one.
But when someone publish an article in your site, be it your Editor in Chief, or really anyone involved in journalism... one would hope that there is a shred of common sense in your article.

Do you guys expect ppl to take your site seriously after this when your own Editor in Chief is ACTUALLY recommending people to buy a product WITH ZERO data of his own to back it up (like LITERALLY the only data he can state is Nvidia's statement), when your very site normally is one of the source of the benchmark and analysis that people expect to make that decision?

Like... do you guys seriously fail to realize how INSANE that is?

The article is basically removing your very own purpose, because frankly... if we are ACTUALLY THAT DUMB, and pre order products with zero checked facts to back that decision... (one of the worst choice a consumer can make)

then why do need to bother with your site?
 


Well it is just one person's excited viewpoint ... not the site's stance.

:)
 
You know what. I bought the GTX 1080ti at 599 when it first came out. I not only saved myself hundreds of dollars in artificial spikes in prices but I can say in one area I enjoyed what was basically the best you could get for a long time now (no matter how rich I get I refuse to pay for the Titan models, it just seems like gluttony with no real reason behind it). But the price jumps from the ti to the titan was like I could buy 2 or 3 GTX 1080tis and the titan wouldn't offer much more for me. Sometimes you have to pick areas in life to treat yourself on something. Pick something. No one has ever gone wrong buy purchasing the latest NVIDIA high end drives. I bought the GTX970 and got screwed on that. Especially since I could prove when I bought it but it was too late to claim my stake in the civil lawsuit. I honestly doubt anyone will be disappointed with the RTX series. That being said I am okay waiting a month. There's no reason to believe it will skyrocket in demand. And I'll sell my GTX 1080ti for basically what I paid for it if not a little extra and then buy the RTX model. If the RTX2070 is that good though it may be worth just waiting for that. In any case I set my hardware up so the GPU is the only factor that needs changing for about 5-6 years before any bottlenecks creep in. To the person who found a GTX Titan xp for under $800. BUY IT! Don't talk about it, go buy it! I can't find any at that price. some are close buy still have days to go in auction. And I am talking if its new. Although I've found one used for under 800 but that will go up towards the end of the auction. A GTX titan xp under 800 dollars is a better deal and a known quantity so fits your judgemental parameters that make you feel superior. If that man wants to get a card from day one and he makes a logical argument in so far as treating yourself to at least the luxury model of something without waiting for reviews when you know its going to perform up to the task if it fits in with every other NVIDIA release of a new GPU. He isn't saying blindly buy unknown expensive quantities of something from a company just starting out. He's saying feel free to enjoy the luxury model from NVIDIA. I would bet half my fortune it holds a candle to its expectations since NVIDIA has released great leaps forwards in the past. Its been long enough that they thoroughly tested the cards. Even under real world situations they are going to perform incredibly well regardless of this one aspect being focused on. This is only if you can afford it though. Its also just as fine to get a GTX1080ti or GTX980. They both will perform well. The ti much more so than the 980. I have the ti right now and it kicks ass. For me its more about if a game is out on the PC that I want to play that will benefit from an upgrade. But right now I'm playing PS4 games catching up on that. Amazing what can be accomplished from inferior hardware when developers know everyone will have the same inferior hardware. I know computers technically far outpace consoles (at least mine do) but developers can squeeze so much more out of consoles. Its a shame there's no process like this for computers. Like program a game assuming everyone owns a GTX1050 or higher. Memory, processor,etc. or the AMD equivalent and they really were equivalent. I think consoles and mining kept AMD where it is for the time being since their gpu's did not perform well enough and their cpu's are great if you have 2k to spend on one processor.
 
I've been following Tom's Hardware since Dr. Thomas Pabst was still the host way back in 199x...(damn I'm getting old).

Not sure about other articles, but for this particular one, how Tom's hardware has fallen.

This is more like an infomercial with nothing more than Nvidia's own number. But it's using Tom's Hardware's reputation to "recommend" this new Nvidia product to end-users.

A review is a review with real data. Don't masquerade a commercial into one.
 


So as one of only two people who has actually benched the new card and written most of the article Igor ... is it 25% faster or more?
 
I can see NVIDIA taking a significant hit over this since the overwhelming assumption is that they've used their newly acquired ray traced powers to maintain the article's visibility, virtually in its original form, conceding little.

Oddly, I seem to have changed my mind on possible gfx upgrade options. I wonder if they properly risk assessed this side effect.
 
I can see all of the deleted posts and these are either abusive, breaching the TOS or duplicates ... sometimes we still get double posts ... so the second iteration is deleted.

There are no useful posts deleted that I can see ... and I have admin rights.

I have edited a couple that had useful content but the odd swear word ... I simply delete the swear word ... not change anyone's post.

Ditto for the other mods ... I can see their edits and the other guys are doing a great job.

 
Wow what is this even saying. The article title is "Just Buy It". Since when did toms hardware stop relying on performance metrics and results in favor of marketing bullcrap?

I am dissapointed.
 
Well... That was an interesting read.
Sure you can have your own opinion on when to buy the RTX cards etc.. But come on buddy... Editor-in-chief... You do know that people who builds they're first computer use sites like this to read up on parts and how to build a computer... And you are telling people to run off and buy parts you have not tested yourself or have any other info than the ones that comes direct from Nvidia... That is some really poor "journalism"
Best answer I seen so far to this "post" has to be from Steve Burke @ Gamers Nexus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu7pxJXBBn8
 
My faith in Tom's has been shaken after reading this article by the editor n chief. His article doesn't make sense. Just as the video that Steph at Gamers nexus posted. What the hell was this dude think. JUST BUY IT. BAHAHAHAHA
 
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