[SOLVED] Liquid Cooling that doesn't require water replacement

[Prawnapple]

I am looking to upgrade soon, and I am looking at water cooling for my AMD CPU. This is what I am looking at currently: https://www.wootware.co.za/fractal-...6-bk-celsius-s36-360mm-liquid-cpu-cooler.html - However, any recommendations are welcome. Do water cooling systems still need replacing every so often? Are they safe to use? Am I in some way insured if they were to indeed leak?

 

[Lutfij]

You're located in South Africa? Your choice of an AIO isn't bad, just wanted to give you an FYI, make sure that the cooler you're choosing is compatible with your case.

Might I ask what your specs are? List them like so:
CPU:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:

 

[Prawnapple]

You're located in South Africa? Your choice of an AIO isn't bad, just wanted to give you an FYI, make sure that the cooler you're choosing is compatible with your case.

Might I ask what your specs are? List them like so:
CPU:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:

Yes, South Africa indeed.

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 Hexa Core 3.6GHz (Looking at)
Motherboard: MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS (Looking at)
Ram: G.Skill F4-3200C16D-16GTZR TridentZ RGB 16GB
SSD/HDD: 2 x Mushkin MKNSSDSR 500GB
GPU: Gtx 1070
PSU: Antec EAG750 EarthWatts Gold Pro Series 750W 80+ Gold Semi-Modular Power Supply
Chassis: Phanteks PH-ES614PTG_BK Enthoo Pro Tempered Glass Black Steel E-ATX Full Tower Desktop Chassis
OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

[rubix_1011]

That cooler should use a glycol coolant, so you shouldn't need to replace or flush any coolant unless you really wish to.

 

[Prawnapple]

That cooler should use a glycol coolant, so you shouldn't need to replace or flush any coolant unless you really wish to.

Hi Rubix,
Thanks, is that the standard? Can I just look to ensure that it's using glycol coolant and then i'll know i'm good and that it won't need replacing unless I want to?

 

[rubix_1011]

Glycol coolant isn't intended to be used 'forever' as the lifespan of a cooler generally is less than 5 years. New models and sockets continually come out and glycol eventually can break down, but likely beyond the 5 year warranty period.

 

[Prawnapple]

Glycol coolant isn't intended to be used 'forever' as the lifespan of a cooler generally is less than 5 years. New models and sockets continually come out and glycol eventually can break down, but likely beyond the 5 year warranty period.

Thanks. How often does one encounter the type that you need to refill or check every few months or do those no longer exist?

 

[Karadjgne]

There's 3 basic types of liquid cooling.

The most common is the AIO or CLC which is a closed loop cooler / all in one. That kind has zero maintenance other than dusting like normal. Lasts @ 5 years before things go downhill, and when that happens you just replace the whole thing. Since ppl usually don't keep a pc longer than 5 years, it's not a likely issue.

Second most common is full custom loop. That's the massive tubing wrapping around everything kind of loop that you build yourself. It's an open loop, so does require periodic replacement, flushing of fluids, leak checking etc. Also by far the most expensive, but being open loop it's totally customizable to any configuration of cpu or gpu or radiator or pump setup you choose.

Last is the hybrids. Fractal design, Swiftec and a few others have taken an AIO and outfitted it with standard custom loop fittings. This allows access to the coolant, so as long as the pump is still good, you can flush and refill or topoff the fluid as many times as you like or need to, far extending the usable 5 year time period of a standard AIO. It also means you can add a component, like a gpu, if you so choose to, just buy the normal full custom water block and plug it in. Most of the companies branding the hybrids also sell the correct fluid, so sticking with a particular brand is somewhat important unless you totally swap out the fluid.

As far as the hybrids go, they are really nothing more than a common AIO mostly, they don't leak anymore than an AIO does, so fluids don't need to be checked. They just have that ability if you choose to.

As for insurance, that's company specific. Corsair brands the most popular series of AIO's world-wide, and has been known for fact to have replaced entire pc's after a disaterous leak by their product. Whether that's true of any other company, I can't say as I've not heard of it, but then again, leaks like that are exponentially rare, and YouTube isn't that old, and not many brag about full system replacements and happy happy joy joy. You only see comments handed down by clueless ppl or videos about the damage caused by the piece of junk.

AIO's/hybrids are warranty items in that if there is any leak anywhere it's usually replaced. Full custom loops are individual warranty items, if a rad springs a leak or a pump, it's covered, but not anything you do like a fitting leaking at the hose etc.

 

[Prawnapple]

There's 3 basic types of liquid cooling.

The most common is the AIO or CLC which is a closed loop cooler / all in one. That kind has zero maintenance other than dusting like normal. Lasts @ 5 years before things go downhill, and when that happens you just replace the whole thing. Since ppl usually don't keep a pc longer than 5 years, it's not a likely issue.

Second most common is full custom loop. That's the massive tubing wrapping around everything kind of loop that you build yourself. It's an open loop, so does require periodic replacement, flushing of fluids, leak checking etc. Also by far the most expensive, but being open loop it's totally customizable to any configuration of cpu or gpu or radiator or pump setup you choose.

Last is the hybrids. Fractal design, Swiftec and a few others have taken an AIO and outfitted it with standard custom loop fittings. This allows access to the coolant, so as long as the pump is still good, you can flush and refill or topoff the fluid as many times as you like or need to, far extending the usable 5 year time period of a standard AIO. It also means you can add a component, like a gpu, if you so choose to, just buy the normal full custom water block and plug it in. Most of the companies branding the hybrids also sell the correct fluid, so sticking with a particular brand is somewhat important unless you totally swap out the fluid.

As far as the hybrids go, they are really nothing more than a common AIO mostly, they don't leak anymore than an AIO does, so fluids don't need to be checked. They just have that ability if you choose to.

As for insurance, that's company specific. Corsair brands the most popular series of AIO's world-wide, and has been known for fact to have replaced entire pc's after a disaterous leak by their product. Whether that's true of any other company, I can't say as I've not heard of it, but then again, leaks like that are exponentially rare, and YouTube isn't that old, and not many brag about full system replacements and happy happy joy joy. You only see comments handed down by clueless ppl or videos about the damage caused by the piece of junk.

AIO's/hybrids are warranty items in that if there is any leak anywhere it's usually replaced. Full custom loops are individual warranty items, if a rad springs a leak or a pump, it's covered, but not anything you do like a fitting leaking at the hose etc.

Hi Karadjgne, okay that's perfect thanks a lot for the response.

 

[Prawnapple]

You're located in South Africa? Your choice of an AIO isn't bad, just wanted to give you an FYI, make sure that the cooler you're choosing is compatible with your case.

Might I ask what your specs are? List them like so:
CPU:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:
OS:

https://www.wootware.co.za/phanteks...k-steel-e-atx-full-tower-desktop-chassis.html
Do you think that cooler will work for this case?

 

[Karadjgne]

3x140mm or 3x120mm on top (420mm/360mm)
2x120mm or 1x140mm on front (240mm/140mm)
1x120mm on rear
2x120mm or 1x140mm on bottom (240mm/140mm)

So yes, it'll fit the S36 on the top only.

 

[Prawnapple]

3x140mm or 3x120mm on top (420mm/360mm)
2x120mm or 1x140mm on front (240mm/140mm)
1x120mm on rear
2x120mm or 1x140mm on bottom (240mm/140mm)

So yes, it'll fit the S36 on the top only.

Thanks a lot. Appreciate it

 

[Groveling_Wyrm]

If you are putting it in the Phanteks Enthoo Pro, you will need to remove the fans from the AIO, place them on the TOP of the case, screw them down into the radiator, so that you will have enough room to fit it in correctly.

Otherwise, there is a good chance that you will have space issues with your motherboard.