[SOLVED] Memtest86 errors, possible culprits (Cpu, MoBo, RAM)?

[Tydring]

Hello, I've finally decided to write in this forum because I've become quite desperate. A couple of months ago I started having some BSOD's with the stop code "Memory_Management", "Page_fault_in_non_paged_area", and "IRQL_not_less_or_equal". At first, I dismissed it as random crashes, but they began to be a bit more frequent. I formatted my PC just in case it had something to do with bad software or any third party applications, but the errors continued. Now I get error codes in Google chrome like "Status_access_violation" and "Not enough memory", and now I'm more concerned than ever.

My specs are:

Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics 3.70 GHz (Stock CPU cooler)
RAM 32.0 GB (G Skill Trident Z Neo C16 3600Mhz)
Mobo ASUS B550-f Gaming Wifi
GPU Nvidia 3070
Storage Corsair Mp600

I decided to give memtest86 a go, and I got a lot of errors. I tested each RAM individually and got errors on both of my modules. It is worth noting that when I was building the PC around December 2020, one of the pins of the CPU got bent and I had to straighten it (I don't know if this could be an issue for long term usage so I thought it was worth mentioning). Also, the CPU and the Mobo aren't technically compatible, but it was the only CPU I had since acquiring a new one was hard and I ran out of money.

Here's the results from my memtest86 test (I stopped it at test 9 because I thought it was useless to leave it running completely):
Summary

Report Date	2022-03-06 19:25:12
Generated by	MemTest86 V9.4 Free (64-bit) Visit MemTest86.com to Upgrade to Pro
Result	FAIL

System Information

EFI Specifications	2.70
System
Manufacturer	ASUS
Product Name	System Product Name
Version	System Version
Serial Number	System Serial Number
BIOS
Vendor	American Megatrends Inc.
Version	2423
Release Date	08/10/2021
Baseboard
Manufacturer	ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC.
Product Name	ROG STRIX B550-F GAMING (WI-FI)
Version	Rev X.0x
Serial Number	200670412004727
CPU Type	AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics
CPU Clock	3693 MHz [Turbo: 4055.5 MHz]
# Logical Processors	8 (4 enabled for testing)
L1 Cache	8 x 96K (70065 MB/s)
L2 Cache	8 x 512K (53759 MB/s)
L3 Cache	1 x 4096K (21244 MB/s)
Memory	32698M (14878 MB/s)
Number of RAM SPDs detected	2
SPD #0	16GB DDR4 XMP PC4-28800
	G Skill Intl / F4-3600C16-16GTZNC
	16-19-19-39 / 3602 MHz / 1.350V
SPD #1	16GB DDR4 XMP PC4-28800
	G Skill Intl / F4-3600C16-16GTZNC
	16-19-19-39 / 3602 MHz / 1.350V
Number of RAM slots	4
Number of RAM modules	2
DIMM Slot #0	Empty slot
DIMM Slot #1	16GB DDR4 PC4-17000
	G-Skill / F4-3600C16-16GTZNC / 00000000
	2133 MHz
DIMM Slot #2	Empty slot
DIMM Slot #3	16GB DDR4 PC4-17000
	G-Skill / F4-3600C16-16GTZNC / 00000000
	2133 MHz

Result summary

Test Start Time	2022-03-06 18:58:39
Elapsed Time	0:26:15
Memory Range Tested	0x0 - 830000000 (33536MB)
CPU Selection Mode	Parallel (All CPUs)
CPU Temperature Min/Max/Ave	40C/61C/54C
RAM Temperature Min/Max/Ave	33C/40C/38C
# Tests Passed	1/9 (11%)

Lowest Error Address	0x230A0198C (8970MB)
Highest Error Address	0x72E67F428 (29414MB)
Bits in Error Mask	00004100008A4110
Bits in Error	8
Max Contiguous Errors	2
CPUs that detected memory errors	{ 0, 2, 4 }

Bits in Error

.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	x	.	.	.	.	.	x	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	.	x	.	.	.	x	.	x	.	.	x	.	.	.	.	.	x	.	.	.	x	.	.	.	.
63																																																															0

Test	# Tests Passed	Errors
Test 0 [Address test, walking ones, 1 CPU]	1/1 (100%)	0
Test 1 [Address test, own address, 1 CPU]	0/1 (0%)	23
Test 2 [Address test, own address]	0/1 (0%)	19
Test 3 [Moving inversions, ones & zeroes]	0/1 (0%)	140
Test 4 [Moving inversions, 8-bit pattern]	0/1 (0%)	497
Test 5 [Moving inversions, random pattern]	0/1 (0%)	538
Test 6 [Block move, 64-byte blocks]	0/1 (0%)	691
Test 7 [Moving inversions, 32-bit pattern]	0/1 (0%)	1551
Test 8 [Random number sequence]	0/1 (0%)	132
Test 9 [Modulo 20, ones & zeros]	0/0 (0%)	2
Test 10 [Bit fade test, 2 patterns, 1 CPU]	0/0 (0%)	0
Test 13 [Hammer test]	0/0 (0%)	0

Last 10 Errors

2022-03-06 19:23:50 - [Data Error] Test: 9, CPU: 2, Address: 230A0198C, Expected: EC85E515, Actual: EC8DE515

2022-03-06 19:23:50 - [Data Error] Test: 9, CPU: 2, Address: 230A3F9DC, Expected: EC85E515, Actual: EC87E515

2022-03-06 19:22:03 - [Data Error] Test: 8, CPU: 0, Address: 72C67F074, Expected: 535EF48E, Actual: 535EF58E

2022-03-06 19:22:03 - [Data Error] Test: 8, CPU: 0, Address: 72C67D0BC, Expected: C9BC563C, Actual: C9BC573C

2022-03-06 19:22:03 - [Data Error] Test: 8, CPU: 0, Address: 72C6790AC, Expected: B0348FB0, Actual: B0348EB0

2022-03-06 19:22:03 - [Data Error] Test: 8, CPU: 0, Address: 72C67F0EC, Expected: E03FD79F, Actual: E03FD69F

2022-03-06 19:22:03 - [Data Error] Test: 8, CPU: 0, Address: 72C6690E4, Expected: 813DCF3D, Actual: 813DCE3D

2022-03-06 19:22:03 - [Data Error] Test: 8, CPU: 0, Address: 72C6610AC, Expected: 333B904F, Actual: 333B914F

2022-03-06 19:22:03 - [Data Error] Test: 8, CPU: 0, Address: 72C655074, Expected: A5C10371, Actual: A5C14371

2022-03-06 19:22:03 - [Data Error] Test: 8, CPU: 0, Address: 72C6530EC, Expected: ADE1679F, Actual: ADE1279F

Thank you for help, and Kind regards.

 

[Koekieezz]

Hello, I've finally decided to write in this forum because I've become quite desperate. A couple of months ago I started having some BSOD's with the stop code "Memory_Management", "Page_fault_in_non_paged_area", and "IRQL_not_less_or_equal". At first, I dismissed it as random crashes, but they began to be a bit more frequent. I formatted my PC just in case it had something to do with bad software or any third party applications, but the errors continued. Now I get error codes in Google chrome like "Status_access_violation" and "Not enough memory", and now I'm more concerned than ever.

My specs are:

Processor AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics 3.70 GHz (Stock CPU cooler)
RAM 32.0 GB (G Skill Trident Z Neo C16 3600Mhz)
Mobo ASUS B550-f Gaming Wifi
GPU Nvidia 3070
Storage Corsair Mp600

I decided to give memtest86 a go, and I got a lot of errors. I tested each RAM individually and got errors on both of my modules. It is worth noting that when I was building the PC around December 2020, one of the pins of the CPU got bent and I had to straighten it (I don't know if this could be an issue for long term usage so I thought it was worth mentioning). Also, the CPU and the Mobo aren't technically compatible, but it was the only CPU I had since acquiring a new one was hard and I ran out of money.

Thank you for help, and Kind regards.

this step by step in order (read till end):

• Make sure ram is on slot 2 and 4
• Disconnect from internet
• Uninstall gpu driver DDU (clean and do not restart).
• Uninstall all the processors (is a must, should be 8 on yours, also when it asks for restart, click on no and keep uninstalling all processors) on device manager like this:
  
  
  
  
  and the chipset driver/software in control panel (if there is none just skip)
  
  
• restart the pc to bios, re flash the bios (Bios ver 2423, your current bios), then after updating bios go to bios again, then load default or optimized settings, find AMD SVM and IOMMU options, enable them (if the option is only auto and disable, just leave it auto), set your XMP/Manual OC and PBO/XFR back then save and exit.
  
  
• boot up to windows and install the latest Chipset driver on the mobo web page (should be 3.10.22), reboot, and make sure in power plan, amd ryzen balanced is used, and then connect to internet.
  
  
• Install the latest gpu driver.
  
  *do this all offline until reboot after installing chipset driver, also you may reboot to bios after all of this to set the XMP (and previous settings you did). Download needed files (highlighted word) before doing step 1, do the step by orders.
  
  
• Run cmd as admin, then do chkdsk /x /f /r, after that do sfc /scannow
  
  
• And check windows update (and optional updates) if there is any and install them (except chipset in optional update).
  
  
• Make sure the psu connected to the gpu is 1 pcie cable per 1 slot (use main cable, not the branches/split) like this:
  
  

For ram you could try to use the fastest xmp profile, then drop it to 3466 or 3533, then set this timing manually:

SOC Voltage: 1.15v (you could try lower this later)
CPU VDDG CCD and IOD: 0.955v or 1.050v
CLDO VDDP: 0.910v
Dram Voltage: 1.36~1.41v (you could try lower this later)

then go to advanced timings, and change these (try to use the bigger number first):
Command Rate: 2T
tCL: 16
tRCDWR and RD: 19
tRP: 19
tRAS: 36 or 38
tRP: 55 or 57 or 64
tWR: 22 ~ 16
tRFC: 630
tRRD_L: 8 or 6 or 4
tRRD_S: 4
tWTR_L: 14 or 12 or 10
tWTR_S: 4 or 5
tFAW: 24 or 16
tRFC: 630
tCWL: 16
tRDWR: 8
tWRRD: 3 or 2

ProcODT: 40 or 43.6
ClkDrvStr: 24
AddrCmdDrvStr: 24
CsOdtCmdDrvStr: 24
CkeDrvStr: 24

Power Down Mode: Disabled
Gear Down Mode: Disabled

And for ram stability test, you could try to use TM5 with absolut config, you could google it.

 

[Tydring]

this step by step in order (read till end):

• Make sure ram is on slot 2 and 4
• Disconnect from internet
• Uninstall gpu driver DDU (clean and do not restart).
• Uninstall all the processors (is a must, should be 8 on yours, also when it asks for restart, click on no and keep uninstalling all processors) on device manager like this:
  
  
  
  
  and the chipset driver/software in control panel (if there is none just skip)
  
  
• restart the pc to bios, re flash the bios (Bios ver 2423, your current bios), then after updating bios go to bios again, then load default or optimized settings, find AMD SVM and IOMMU options, enable them (if the option is only auto and disable, just leave it auto), set your XMP/Manual OC and PBO/XFR back then save and exit.
  
  
• boot up to windows and install the latest Chipset driver on the mobo web page (should be 3.10.22), reboot, and make sure in power plan, amd ryzen balanced is used, and then connect to internet.
  
  
• Install the latest gpu driver.
  
  *do this all offline until reboot after installing chipset driver, also you may reboot to bios after all of this to set the XMP (and previous settings you did). Download needed files (highlighted word) before doing step 1, do the step by orders.
  
  
• Run cmd as admin, then do chkdsk /x /f /r, after that do sfc /scannow
  
  
• And check windows update (and optional updates) if there is any and install them (except chipset in optional update).
  
  
• Make sure the psu connected to the gpu is 1 pcie cable per 1 slot (use main cable, not the branches/split) like this:
  
  

For ram you could try to use the fastest xmp profile, then drop it to 3466 or 3533, then set this timing manually:

SOC Voltage: 1.15v (you could try lower this later)
CPU VDDG CCD and IOD: 0.955v or 1.050v
CLDO VDDP: 0.910v
Dram Voltage: 1.36~1.41v (you could try lower this later)

then go to advanced timings, and change these (try to use the bigger number first):
Command Rate: 2T
tCL: 16
tRCDWR and RD: 19
tRP: 19
tRAS: 36 or 38
tRP: 55 or 57 or 64
tWR: 22 ~ 16
tRFC: 630
tRRD_L: 8 or 6 or 4
tRRD_S: 4
tWTR_L: 14 or 12 or 10
tWTR_S: 4 or 5
tFAW: 24 or 16
tRFC: 630
tCWL: 16
tRDWR: 8
tWRRD: 3 or 2

ProcODT: 40 or 43.6
ClkDrvStr: 24
AddrCmdDrvStr: 24
CsOdtCmdDrvStr: 24
CkeDrvStr: 24

Power Down Mode: Disabled
Gear Down Mode: Disabled

And for ram stability test, you could try to use TM5 with absolut config, you could google it.

The only thing I find troubling is the part where I have to set to xmp to the fastest profile, my CPU doesn't support frequencies above 3200MHz, what should I do then?

 

[Koekieezz]

The only thing I find troubling is the part where I have to set to xmp to the fastest profile, my CPU doesn't support frequencies above 3200MHz, what should I do then?

well then with the fastest xmp profile set and used, set back to 3200mhz, and use the timings i listed. Zen+ should be able to do 3466, but i think you lost the lottery XD

or else, the ram got faulty.

 

[Tydring]

well then with the fastest xmp profile set and used, set back to 3200mhz, and use the timings i listed. Zen+ should be able to do 3466, but i think you lost the lottery XD

or else, the ram got faulty.

Alright I did everything step by step, ran TM5 at the end and still wound up with a lot of errors... I suppose I can narrow it down to just faulty RAM now?

 

[Tydring]

Alright I did everything step by step, ran TM5 at the end and still wound up with a lot of errors... I suppose I can narrow it down to just faulty RAM now?

Also when I ran chkskd I got a BSOD with the stop code "Page_fault_in_non_paged_area NTFS.Sys"

 

[Koekieezz]

Alright I did everything step by step, ran TM5 at the end and still wound up with a lot of errors... I suppose I can narrow it down to just faulty RAM now?

even at 3200 there is errors? with fastest XMP + low freq and timings? its either a ram faulty, or the cpu imc itself..

 

[Tydring]

even at 3200 there is errors? with fastest XMP + low freq and timings? its either a ram faulty, or the cpu imc itself..

Sorry for the late reply, it was already pretty late where I live. I wanted to ask if there's a way to isolate the culprit? If it's the CPU or the RAM, to know which part to replace because I don't really have enough to buy both things.

 

[Koekieezz]

Sorry for the late reply, it was already pretty late where I live. I wanted to ask if there's a way to isolate the culprit? If it's the CPU or the RAM, to know which part to replace because I don't really have enough to buy both things.

either you test another ram kit, if your friend have some might want to swap it for a test.

 

[_DarkDragon_]

I would say its better if you let the BIOS stay in default and just reinstall the windows again.
It should be OS problem. I once had the same problem. Clean installation of windows removed that problem.